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I am mentally writing this season off now. I'm not saying that we won't get promoted because stranger things have happened to struggling teams in the past and this is football after all and anything can happen.

If this season has affirmed anything for me though it is my lack of support in the directing infrastructure at Sheffield United F.C. I generally try and steer away from the stereotypical bash the board threads however I am finding in incredibly difficult at the minute to have any sort of belief in anybody currently at the club who is tasked with running the place and taking it forwards .

To an extent I understand the whole "Mistakes have been made in the past" statements. But this is nothing new to us is it? We know mistake after mistake has been made and ultimately it was only going to come to something like this. A club that suddenly has to come to a grinding halt and ride out a huge storm in order to put things right and hopefully eventually mount another serious attempt again (but I won't hold my breath).

I actually wonder now whether the club actually regret the whole "transparency" approach in which we have seen Jim Phipps and co addressing the fans via social media. It is hard now in hindsight to look at this as anything other than spoon feeding the fans exactly what they want to hear in order to balance harmony and keep bums on seats?

We then recently heard another textbook statement from Mr McCabe. I understand where he is coming from by the way and I don't think he is deliberately trying to pull the wool over our eyes but I do believe that this should have been addressed a long time ago. Had we been made aware a long time ago that our club was in dire straits in respects to going forward and that a massive transition period was on the horizon as opposed to allowing us to hold false hope, this would have prevented a massive backlash which is in my opinion beginning to show it's ugly head amongst the fans.

Football has a whole however has moved forward ridiculously since McCabe took control at Sheffield United F.C and despite HRH taking a joint control of the club I don't see any real adaptation to suit the ever changing game. I think to an extent we are still stuck at the same point we were a decade ago, after our failed attempt at matching the big boys.

I'm not bashing the board as I feel that overall, attempts have been made to steer this club in the right direction all be it in a way that I don't personally regard as "conventional". But with moving forwards in mind I am struggling to see how this is going to happen under the current ownership? If I put a bet on a football team, I do so with previous form in mind and in similar respects this applies to Sheffield United F.C. How can I back the club going forwards if I have no real form to go on?

Sorry about my miserable rant but this is honestly how I feel right now. Nothing new to some I suppose.
 



Said a few weeks ago , I dont think Adkins is bringing anything positive to the club , 2 goals in our last 6 , reasonable away games at bury , 1 win in last 10 over us and Rochdale , and we never ever looked like scoring in either never mind winning.
You look back at the pigs and say they had the balls to sack Megson who was similarly misfiring , and they went on a great reun and pipped us ,
Theres no vibrancy or belief at all , we have to act

This is worth a shot , cant see anything Adkins has given us , whatever he had 5 years ago has evaporated
 
Said a few weeks ago , I dont think Adkins is bringing anything positive to the club , 2 goals in our last 6 , reasonable away games at bury , 1 win in last 10 over us and Rochdale , and we never ever looked like scoring in either never mind winning.
You look back at the pigs and say they had the balls to sack Megson who was similarly misfiring , and they went on a great reun and pipped us ,
Theres no vibrancy or belief at all , we have to act

This is worth a shot , cant see anything Adkins has given us , whatever he had 5 years ago has evaporated

You'll have changed your mind again next week.
 
I dont blow with the wind .wasnt sure when he came .certain now .hes not the one

Oh yeah this mystical idea that you weren't sure that was never posted on these boards.

Trying to claim you were right all along is really desperate.
 
Guys, as bad as a team we are, he should be able to get some players out of 40 professionals into some sort of team that knows how to play together...

All I've heard is how much of a negative it is to have all these players on the payroll, how come he can't mould a team out of 40 players...

I've been privately scratching my head since September I can't join in the barnyesque chasing of him over the cliff from day one...but...... If he had anything in his locker we'd have seen it by now... We have gone backwards...it's a clear fact...the table does not lie...is he the last big mistake....who knows..
 
Before Princey came on the scene this was exactly where we were heading isn't it?
McCabe had stated that he wasn't going to put any more money in and that the club would have to be 'self-sufficient'

'Get rid of the large squad on championship wages.' (no one wanted to buy them as I recall...we had to give Quinny to Hull in exchange for a packet ginger nuts...otherwise the Academy kids would have starved that year)

'rely on the youth/academy'

're-build for L1'

Then came Princey and Weir was appointed, we woz rich!

Paying for players such as Baxter and Flo, later big signing's for Clough including his talisman, Brayford....we've appear to have come full circle except now we have two owners reluctant to buy players, stating we need to bring the youth through and that it will take three transfer windows to sort the club out!?!?!
 
Oh yeah this mystical idea that you weren't sure that was never posted on these boards.

Trying to claim you were right all along is really desperate.
Again you have a vendetta against me .I posted you the thread where I said I wanted RObinson stop claiming I said something else .in other words stop with the lies
 
Again you have a vendetta against me .I posted you the thread where I said I wanted RObinson stop claiming I said something else .in other words stop with the lies

What you actually posted was a survey you'd took part in where your clucked Robinson. You never posted anything relating to 'concerns' you had about Adkins.
 
Said a few weeks ago , I dont think Adkins is bringing anything positive to the club , 2 goals in our last 6 , reasonable away games at bury , 1 win in last 10 over us and Rochdale , and we never ever looked like scoring in either never mind winning.
You look back at the pigs and say they had the balls to sack Megson who was similarly misfiring , and they went on a great reun and pipped us ,
Theres no vibrancy or belief at all , we have to act

This is worth a shot , cant see anything Adkins has given us , whatever he had 5 years ago has evaporated

How you can claim "we never ever looked like scoring" on Saturday is a mystery to me. On a general note, I predicted a sixth to thirteenth placed finish for the blades after the sale of Murphy - unfortunately I won't be far wrong. How the hell people expect better of the manager with this set of crocks and unfit misfits, is something I'm struggling to comprehend. Rolling the managerial dice is not the answer, not yet anyway. Unless the board and transfer policies and processes are fixed, there's only one direction the blades are heading. If I was in charge I'd make it abundantly clear to our shower - and the supporters - that Adkins's position is safe and its the players and their own modus operandi that's under review.
 
I know his hand has been forced to a certain extent but there's no coincidence that he's gone with Flo, Calvert-Lewin, Adams and Reed in the last few games. Whether that's 'giving up on this season' is open for debate but it says a lot about where he wants to go and which players he wants (and doesn't want) to play going forward.
 
Wether we like it or not, NA will be here next season, has confirmed talks with KM regarding players has taken place, depending on which division we are in. I just hope (pray) we are pleased with these new acquisitions and can forget this season and look forward to the next with renewed optimism (again I know) but what else do you do, you have to move on.
 
I know his hand has been forced to a certain extent but there's no coincidence that he's gone with Flo, Calvert-Lewin, Adams and Reed in the last few games. Whether that's 'giving up on this season' is open for debate but it says a lot about where he wants to go and which players he wants (and doesn't want) to play going forward.

Just wanted you to clarify something. Do you really consider him going with the players you mention as giving up on it? And if so which of our older players would you like to bring in for them? I considered this as progress myself and not giving up.

Always interested in another opinion, because I thought bringing scougall in, who was meant to be one of the bad eggs being desperate. I really can't figure out how many of the players would still be with him as there is always a scapegoat every other week and then they are given another chance.

It looked like he has taken command on the situation but sadly it looks like he hasn't.

For me the only way he keeps his job is if his 'release' list in Has everyone who is out of contract on it, bar Long.
 



Just wanted you to clarify something. Do you really consider him going with the players you mention as giving up on it? And if so which of our older players would you like to bring in for them? I considered this as progress myself and not giving up.

Always interested in another opinion, because I thought bringing scougall in, who was meant to be one of the bad eggs being desperate. I really can't figure out how many of the players would still be with him as there is always a scapegoat every other week and then they are given another chance.

It looked like he has taken command on the situation but sadly it looks like he hasn't.

For me the only way he keeps his job is if his 'release' list in Has everyone who is out of contract on it, bar Long.

That's why I said it was open to debate :)

I'm all for it, I'd rather we went with an inexperienced Adams than Sammon for example if we think there's a player in there, same with Reed. Has he given up, no because we're only a couple of wins away from being there. I also think it's a clever move on his part as the fans are less likely to get on the back of the younger home grown players particularly. I think he already knows who won't be here next season and will use the remainder of the season to have a look at certain players who haven't had much of a chance and a few of the kids. If we make the play-offs all well and good, as he has said, if we do then we'll be playing OK and will have a certain amount of momentum anyway.
 
Wether we like it or not, NA will be here next season,

I hope so. As lackluster as our performances have been this season NA I believe will be given time to sort it out. Having said that, Clough was going to be with us this season till he was sacked. He even 'starred' in the pre-season video, (maybe that was his downfall....).
 
I don't know if Adkins has given up but the lack of inbound signings from 1 January when we need to improve a mediocre squad to have any chance is conclusive proof that the board have given up on this season.
 
I don't know if Adkins has given up but the lack of inbound signings from 1 January when we need to improve a mediocre squad to have any chance is conclusive proof that the board have given up on this season.

Another interesting take is that the board didn't want to make things worse. We really do need to start fresh
 
Another interesting take is that the board didn't want to make things worse. We really do need to start fresh

I know what you mean, though it's hard to see how replacing say, Woolford and Collins with decent loanees makes things worse.
 
How you can claim "we never ever looked like scoring" on Saturday is a mystery to me. On a general note, I predicted a sixth to thirteenth placed finish for the blades after the sale of Murphy - unfortunately I won't be far wrong. How the hell people expect better of the manager with this set of crocks and unfit misfits, is something I'm struggling to comprehend. Rolling the managerial dice is not the answer, not yet anyway. Unless the board and transfer policies and processes are fixed, there's only one direction the blades are heading. If I was in charge I'd make it abundantly clear to our shower - and the supporters - that Adkins's position is safe and its the players and their own modus operandi that's under review.
Well I still want to know in detail anything Adkins has brought to the table this season
, we could have trod water if wed kept Clough , which is why he was ousted

Cant think of one area that Adkins has improved things
 
What you actually posted was a survey you'd took part in where your clucked Robinson. You never posted anything relating to 'concerns' you had about Adkins.

look up the threads on new manager pre season and show me one where I go for Adkins

on a related note
tell me just one thing that Adkins has done to improve what he inherited,,, just one

I am really struggling to come up with a case for his tenure lasting any longer
 
look up the threads on new manager pre season and show me one where I go for Adkins

on a related note
tell me just one thing that Adkins has done to improve what he inherited,,, just one

I am really struggling to come up with a case for his tenure lasting any longer


You said you had concerns about him no longer having the magic from previous roles and were proved right but you never, not once, posted that you had concerns.

Pressing a voting button for Karl Robinson doesn't count.

And you already asked this, and I already answered Billy Sharp, and you ignored it, like you always do when shown up or proven wrong.
 
so BILLY SHARP murphy out sharp in
has it been that much of an improvement ,really

didnt you argue that was hardly a great improvement
 
so BILLY SHARP murphy out sharp in
has it been that much of an improvement ,really

didnt you argue that was hardly a great improvement

You asked for one area of the team that has been improved.

Billy Sharp is a very good example for the question you asked.

Coincidentally, he plays in a different position to Jamie Murphy.

Are you now changing your question because you didn't like the answer or doing your usual trick of pretending you didn't say it?
 
HOWS IT IMPROVED IT , HAVE WE SCORED MORE GOALS THIS SEASON
I said improved the club


lets stick to facts

Jeez. You asked a question. I've answered it on three occasions and now you're pretending to have asked something else.

Until you can be sensible, and not change your mind every 3 minutes, I'll leave others to answer your nonsense.
 
Well I still want to know in detail anything Adkins has brought to the table this season
, we could have trod water if wed kept Clough , which is why he was ousted
Cant think of one area that Adkins has improved things

Adkins has brought things to the to the table that Clough didn't. He has attempted to play expansive football with two or three strikers. He has used young players more often than Clough did. He has changed formations numerous times to try and arrest bad form. Clough was ousted because he wanted seven more signings, and the board were unhappy with his prior business and tactical approach. I think Clough would have had his p45 at Christmas if he'd had the same room to manoeuvre as Adkins has, and I was all for giving Clough until Christmas. This is a big rebuilding job now.
 
I'm mightily impressed that the club has managed to sell us the concept that the reason we aren't challenging for promotion is that we have too many players.
 



I know what you mean, though it's hard to see how replacing say, Woolford and Collins with decent loanees makes things worse.


I suppose you're just going to have even more senior players not playing around the training ground stinking up the place.
 

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