Statement from McCabe - Official Site

[Snowman]

But it depends on your definition of "invested in the playing squad alone". Do you mean paid over to managers from his own personal account to buy players, or that plus paying from his own personal account to fund wages, or to fund a shortfall on wages in order for the squad to continue to play?

 

[Sean Thornton]

No, no. Thanks but that's shit and jargon, exactly what I didn't want. I was asking for a definitive figure for both questions. A simple 1. x amount of million for year 1, x amount for year 2 etc. etc. and same for the Prince.

I'm afraid I can't help you. Your lobotomy put paid to that.

 

[Barney]

I'm afraid I can't help you. Your lobotomy put paid to that.

Right, well I'm afraid them's the questions that need answering. We'll have to wait for someone that does know.

 

[Barney]

But it depends on your definition of "invested in the playing squad alone". Do you mean paid over to managers from his own personal account to buy players, or that plus paying from his own personal account to fund wages, or to fund a shortfall on wages in order for the squad to continue to play?

Investment in the playing squad. So all wages included. Any money that is going into the squad of players. So investment to change a manager for example, wouldn't be included as this is a personal choice of the board and isn't anything to do with the squad and the players on the pitch. It would however, be useful to have this information and the exact figure to hand so as to add it on for interest and measurements's sake.

 

[Snowman]

Investment in the playing squad. So all wages included. Any money that is going into the squad of players. So investment to change a manager for example, wouldn't be included as this is a personal choice of the board and isn't anything to do with the squad and the players on the pitch. It would however, be useful to have this information and the exact figure to hand so as to add it on for interest and measurements's sake.

Ok, now its defined. Dunno. Sorry.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Right, well I'm afraid them's the questions that need answering. We'll have to wait for someone that does know.

The question is nonsense. If a business makes losses it needs funding. Full stop.

If you are wanting a simplistic answer all you need to do is add up turnover over the years and deduct cost of sales. Clearly that won't add up to £60 million so an idiot like you will claim he hasn't invested in the playing side ignoring the running costs, which if he hadn't funded would have resulted in administration at best. It's not burger flipping science but could still be beyond you.

You are so transparent you ought to be embarrassed. As I said, you claimed you knew all about contracts and ended up looking stupid. Fill your boots again. No one will be surprised.

 

[Barney]

Ok, now its defined. Dunno. Sorry.

No worries. When you cut out all the rubbish, these are the questions that need answering to see whether McCabe is this big bad guy that some, I included, have painted him out to be at times since we've been down here. It appears nobody, not even Sean the know it all, has a clue.

 

[Barney]

The question is nonsense. If a business makes losses it needs funding. Full stop.

If you are wanting a simplistic answer all you need to do is add up turnover over the years and deduct cost of sales. Clearly that won't add up to £60 million so an idiot like you will claim he hasn't invested in the playing side ignoring the running costs, which if he hadn't funded would have resulted in administration at best. It's not burger flipping science but could still be beyond you.

You are so transparent you ought to be embarrassed. As I said, you claimed you knew all about contracts and ended up looking stupid. Fill your boots again. No one will be surprised.

No, you're claiming to be a big know it all, look at me, I know everything and you can't even answer a fucking simple question. If you can't answer it, move along and don't reply. We'll wait for someone that can.

 

[pommpey]

An example is your post criticising him for not "replacing our injured striker Hulse". I pointed out that the transfer window had closed and you said you meant not having strength in depth or something. But that's not what you said. That's without a recording device shoved in front of you, and time to reply.

So you didn't see the patent weaknesses in the squad when we embarked upon our Premiership odyssey? I'd like to think that the management did and by that I mean Warnock as well. Hulse's injury undisputedly contributed to our lack of success in the top flight and when he was injured, during one of the most vital run-ins in Sheffield United's history, you yourself would be hard pushed to dispute that had we another tall, rangey striker of his ilk in reserve, maybe we'd have scored more and survived. That is exactly what I meant. It was almost a precedent for the Evans fiasco, but with less grim overtones. Suddenly the side is down a cylinder in the engine.

McCabe was courageous in facing us critics and deserves admiration for it. But true to his form (and much like the past time I saw him speak a few years ago outside that café), he has left far more questions than answers.

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

Ok, now its defined. Dunno. Sorry.

Whoever feeding him this is the type of clown we referred to earlier. The information and breakdown isn't available in the accounts after, I think, around 2007 so it can't be quantified other than very simply as I said. So he's asking a question and then using the " you don't know" comment. If he's as clever as his mum tells him he is he can do the basic math himself but that's fraught with the danger of him being ridiculed again.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No, you're claiming to be a big know it all, look at me, I know everything and you can't even answer a fucking simple question. If you can't answer it, move along and don't reply. We'll wait for someone that can.

There's no detailed answer you thick twat. The detailed breakdown isn't there. I've explained that. Start with the accounts and point out where I'm wrong. My comments are all based on info available at Companies House, not Barneys big book of knowing everything about everything.

 

[super_pig]

joking aside and being serious for once, i have no doubt that Mr McCabe has the clubs best interests at heart.. but if the amounts being paid on expenses are correct and we are spunking cash away as he intimates then it would appear that the club is badly run

 

[Snowman]

Whoever feeding him this is the type of clown we referred to earlier. The information and breakdown isn't available in the accounts after, I think, around 2007 so it can't be quantified other than very simply as I said. So he's asking a question and then using the " you don't know" comment. If he's as clever as his mum tells him he is he can do the basic math himself but that's fraught with the danger of him being ridiculed again.

Of course it isn't and I'm not going to be shouting, "Hey Kev show us your bank statements". None of my business.

 

[pommpey]

Whoever feeding him this is the type of clown we referred to earlier. The information and breakdown isn't available in the accounts after, I think, around 2007 so it can't be quantified other than very simply as I said. So he's asking a question and then using the " you don't know" comment. If he's as clever as his mum tells him he is he can do the basic math himself but that's fraught with the danger of him being ridiculed again.

So for all the 'facts', there are some 'facts' that you, or WWF don't exactly know how to put forward? I too am interested in these 'facts'.

pommpey

 

[Barney]

Whoever feeding him this is the type of clown we referred to earlier. The information and breakdown isn't available in the accounts after, I think, around 2007 so it can't be quantified other than very simply as I said.

This, and this:

If he's as clever as his mum tells him he is he can do the basic math himself but that's fraught with the danger of him being ridiculed again.

Big contradiction alert! So it can't be quantified but it can be worked out with simple math. Fantastic! I'd give it up and leave it there if I were you because you're making yourself look an even bigger tool than you were when you were talking a load of bollocks for 15 pages without being able to back it up with an answer to a simple question.

 

[Snowman]

Of course it isn't and I'm not going to be shouting, "Hey Kev show us your bank statements". None of my business.

PS. Thanks for calling me a Clown.

 

[pommpey]

This, and this:

Big contradiction alert! So it can't be quantified but it can be worked out with simple math. Fantastic! I'd give it up and leave it there if I were you because you're making yourself look an even bigger tool than you were when you were talking a load of bollocks for 15 pages without being able to back it up with an answer to a simple question.

I'd leave it Barney. Like McCabe himself, when there are salient questions - such as "how much have you spent on the football squad versus how much you have made from sales from the squad" these things aren't for the ears of peasants. Sean knows though.

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

So you didn't see the patent weaknesses in the squad when we embarked upon our Premiership odyssey? I'd like to think that the management did and by that I mean Warnock as well. Hulse's injury undisputedly contributed to our lack of success in the top flight and when he was injured, during one of the most vital run-ins in Sheffield United's history, you yourself would be hard pushed to dispute that had we another tall, rangey striker of his ilk in reserve, maybe we'd have scored more and survived. That is exactly what I meant. It was almost a precedent for the Evans fiasco, but with less grim overtones. Suddenly the side is down a cylinder in the engine.

McCabe was courageous in facing us critics and deserves admiration for it. But true to his form (and much like the past time I saw him speak a few years ago outside that café), he has left far more questions than answers.

pommpey

I can't disagree with any of that. You know why, because it's the same as my opinion. The only reason I mentioned your Hulse comment was to highlight how easy it is to mean one thing but actually post something that's not the same when read back. Me giving KMc some benefit of the doubt I suppose.

And yes, didn't tell us much. I said that day he's said nothing about the plans for getting us out of this division and sold us the " investment is there for the next level" line again.

 

[Sean Thornton]

PS. Thanks for calling me a Clown.

Eh? I was referring to people who accuse McCabe of fraud and crookedness.

 

[bricktop]

Bert's youth was spent on the Kop and on terraces up and down the country... in the days before segregation. In later life he moved to the New South Stand. Since he has given up his season ticket (due to spending long periods in foreign parts) he can now be found in the Bramall Lane corner, a location that is void of foul mouthed riff raff.

Berrt

Brownie and LS26BLADE decamped to the New South Stand, after a years of sterling service on the Kop, and occasionally Bramall Lane upper when Brownie Jnr was in attendance, now all 3 of us are resident in the New South Stand where will probably remain until retirement, unless Brownie Jnr decides he wishes to return to the kop when he is a teenager and goes back to the kop.

Occasionally LS26BLADE will come out with some naughty words in the presence of Brownie Jnr, who usually admonishes him for his infraction and informs him that if he says any naughty words then he will have to go to prison. Brownie Jnr also knows a lot of naughty words that other children have told him at school but the last swearing incident which came 18 months ago when he was having some difficulty playing Lego Batman and and saw fit to call Batman and Robin a pair of bummers, he has not used any naughty words in front of either parent since although he does know a full selection of vulgar language. He has also been briefed that he may occasionally hear some naughty words at football, he is to under no circumstances to repeat them.

Brownie and Brownie Jnr, also bumped to in to Silent Blade who took hold of brownies hand and slapped it as a repercussion of Brownie foolishly announcing a false goal on shout box the other night. Brownie also took the opportunity of getting Brownie Jnr to say hello to Silent in BSL as he has learned some of it at school, but seeing as the only BSL that Brownie knows is a vulgarity I didn't know what Brownie Jnr said to Silent.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'd leave it Barney. Like McCabe himself, when there are salient questions - such as "how much have you spent on the football squad versus how much you have made from sales from the squad" these things aren't for the ears of peasants. Sean knows though.

pommpey

Lol.

 

[Sean Thornton]

joking aside and being serious for once, i have no doubt that Mr McCabe has the clubs best interests at heart.. but if the amounts being paid on expenses are correct and we are spunking cash away as he intimates then it would appear that the club is badly run

A look at the accounts, too difficult for Pommpey and Barney apparently, shows that admin costs have reduced year on year. Doesn't make it well run by any means but they are trying. The trouble is shite appointments such as Robinson and Birch, cheap option managerial decisions and poor transfer policy

 

[Snowman]

Eh? I was referring to people who accuse McCabe of fraud and crookedness.

Thank God! I wouldn't have been able to sleep had I felt I was being thought of as a madcap Pierrot. Keep going Sean. Lovely Avatar by the way.

 

[super_pig]

A look at the accounts, too difficult for Pommpey and Barney apparently, shows that admin costs have reduced year on year. Doesn't make it well run by any means but they are trying. The trouble is shite appointments such as Robinson and Birch, cheap option managerial decisions and poor transfer policy

and paying some clowns 30 grand a week i would suppose?

 

[Sean Thornton]

and paying some clowns 30 grand a week i would suppose?

Yes. The two/three years after PL relegation set us on a path of decline that KMc has been unable to halt. The uber McCabe haters misinterpret facts that don't suit their agendas as support for him. Oddly enough none of them bother rebutting anything posted and request information that they couldn't understand even if it was available.

 

[super_pig]

the answer is simple.. buy a few decent players who are at their 'peak'.. not nomarks and has beens from the championship.. 'ooh i used to be good' types who are looking for a last payday.. we seem to attract a lot of this type of player for obvious reasons

 

[robbiez666]

I think everyone here will agree that Kev has finance the club out of his own pocket (between 50-90 million) over the years
Some will argue that some of that money was spent on ventures that may have been lucrative to his other interests
Others will argue that it's very well subsidising the running costs of the club (almost all chairman do this) but we as fans are only interested in the money invested in the first team
One or two people may suggest that he keeps his trap shut when he's crowing or employ a PR guy/gal. Maybe a bearded American?

 

[Blade82]

Can't believe any blade actually takes any notice of anything McCabe says, the amount of shit he's spun us over the past is nearly as bad as his record of appointing mangers.

 

[pommpey]

A look at the accounts, too difficult for Pommpey and Barney apparently, shows that admin costs have reduced year on year. Doesn't make it well run by any means but they are trying. The trouble is shite appointments such as Robinson and Birch, cheap option managerial decisions and poor transfer policy

I couldn't give a fat rat's cock about 'admin costs'. They are the concern of the management and board. I care about the level of talent on the pitch. If the admin costs are too high, then how the fuck is that a concern and a reckoning of a football supporter? I don't benefit from the cleaners and the costs of paperclips at BDTBL and frankly if the costs of running the business hamper your product, then your business model is fucked up beyond repair. That's McCabe's lookout, not mine.

What I am concerned with, is how much players have been sold for and how much players have cost who we have bought. This doesn't seem to be quite so clear.

Incidentally, has anyone seen the gained value of our overseas sponsorship opportunities agent since his appointment?

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

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