TIME TO SAY GOODBYE?

[PeteBlade]

It was a bit of an exaggeration on my part but there is no doubt he had an exceptionally good group of players at Southampton - and backing from the Board - which made the job easier.

What is also clear is that he failed at Reading and has had a terrible time here. Poor signings, abysmal tactics, seemingly no influence over the players and ludicrous pre and post match comments.

It's a huge exaggeration at best and at worst just belittling someone's achievements nonsensically.

SAF inherited the Class of '92, Pep at Barca inherited the best player
on the planet.

Do their achievements count for less because of the players they inherited?

 

[yorkshirecoast]

It's a huge exaggeration at best and at worst just belittling someone's achievements nonsensically.

SAF inherited the Class of '92, Pep at Barca inherited the best player
on the planet.

Do their achievements count for less because of the players they inherited?

How about commenting on his abysmal performance here? I only mentioned Southampton because some are using his record there as some kind of justification for ignoring his numerous shortcomings here.

 

[PeteBlade]

How about commenting on his abysmal performance here? I only mentioned Southampton because some are using his record there as some kind of justification for ignoring his numerous shortcomings here.

I've commented on it numerous times. I think he's completely hamstrung by an incompetent board. And he's been allowed to sign one player permanently. It's a shambles how we're run.

You can sack as many managers as you like but if you don't tackle the fundamental problems at the club, nothing will ever change. Much as we love a good manager sacking here.

His CV proves he's had much success, plenty in this division, and belittling it purely because it's suits you wanting to slag him off is just daft.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

I've commented on it numerous times. I think he's completely hamstrung by an incompetent board. And he's been allowed to sign one player permanently. It's a shambles how we're run.

You can sack as many managers as you like but if you don't tackle the fundamental problems at the club, nothing will ever change. Much as we love a good manager sacking here.

His CV proves he's had much success, plenty in this division, and belittling it purely because it's suits you wanting to slag him off is just daft.

I agree the Board is the main problem. But Adkins has clearly been shocking here so far - as he was in his last job at Reading. Care to comment on his poor signings (many of whom are apparently on big money), abysmal tactics and ludicrous pre and post match comments?

 

[Bartleby]

Warnock failed and at the time many wanted him sacked. Imagine if we'd have kept him and struggled. The board would have got slated.

Exactly. As Warnock himself said on that - "If we lost a couple of games early doors next season there'd be fans outside the ground throwing bricks through windows"

 

[PeteBlade]

I agree the Board is the main problem. But Adkins has clearly been shocking here so far - as he was in his last job at Reading. Care to comment on his poor signings (many of whom are apparently on big money), abysmal tactics and ludicrous pre and post match comments?

First of all, I'm not his spokesman. I can just see the bigger picture rather than screaming for a new manager every 6 months.

He signed Billy Sharp, who I assume you don't count as poor, being our leader scorer?

Can't comment on what money they are on as no one knows, so you'd be guessing as would I.

Why would I want to comment on something as childish as he pre and post match comments? About as stupid a thing to focus on as when people got all upset about Danny Wilson not having his hands in his pockets?

He's not perfect, I'm not saying he's perfect, no one is, except some of the football manager experts on here, but I don't think any manager would thrive under these conditions.

And if some people on here had their way, we'd sack him, replace him with someone who's CV is much worse who'd have to work under the same conditions.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Who would you replace Adkins with?

Well on current form. . . . . Any qualified physiotherapist in the Sheffield area.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

The fear I have at the moment is that Adkins is going for evolution rather than a revolution. And we certainly need the latter.

I think he needs the summer to be allowed to show us for definite how he is approaching the future.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

First of all, I'm not his spokesman. I can just see the bigger picture rather than screaming for a new manager every 6 months.

He signed Billy Sharp, who I assume you don't count as poor, being our leader scorer?

Can't comment on what money they are on as no one knows, so you'd be guessing as would I.

Why would I want to comment on something as childish as he pre and post match comments? About as stupid a thing to focus on as when people got all upset about Danny Wilson not having his hands in his pockets?

He's not perfect, I'm not saying he's perfect, no one is, except some of the football manager experts on here, but I don't think any manager would thrive under these conditions.

And if some people on here had their way, we'd sack him, replace him with someone who's CV is much worse who'd have to work under the same conditions.

Strange - no mention of Hammond, Woolford or Sammon. Or his negative tactics - even at home. Or his bizarre team selections and substitutions. Or his deluded ramblings. But at least you like his CV.

 

[Roygbiv]

We can sack Adkins and maybe he does deserve it but I guarantee that if we do then this time next season we will have similar posts about whichever poor soul takes over the reigns. Adkins is an issue at the moment but he's far down the list of what's wrong with the club

 

[pommpey]

No, but you have mentioned eleven players out of a squad of thirty? Couldn't be arsed to check. Surely, surely, turds or not, he could find eleven players to compete in this god awful league. ANYONE, anyone could and has beaten us this season.

Think about the 'residual'. Who from that league of galacticos would you say is provenly better than the twerps out on the park last night?

Twerps are all we are left with.

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

Strange - no mention of Hammond, Woolford or Sammon. Or his negative tactics - even at home. Or his bizarre team selections and substitutions. Or his deluded ramblings. But at least you like his CV.

Do I have to give you my opinion on each individual player?
Was there a reason you didn't mention Sharp yourself?

He's made mistakes, as does every manager.

I've brought up his 'deluded rambling' when I talked about the stupid and childish things some fans like to fixate on.

Still let's just sack him, because we're Sheffield United and that's what we do, it's worked the last 8 times, so 9th times a charm, eh?

 

[longinthe toothblade]

His success at Scunthorpe was as a result of doing things his way, his poor showing so far at The Lane are (as you pointed out) down to the Board. I suggest that Adkins is not the problem.

I've held that view to date but right now I'm coming round to the fact that "he might be part of it". His interview last night was the same old, same old, footballing sound bite, 'don't blame anyone', vanilla, no hope, rubbish. Late home and having sat through that load of shit, I expected him to sound like he was hurting like I was.

"We started very brightly didn't we" - f**king hell, it's a pity it didn't end that way!

 

[Rodders]

Or his deluded ramblings. But at least you like his CV.

It's fine to fixate on his post-match interviews, but not his CV that contains multiple promotions?
What a bizarre statement.

 

[Mendi]

Need a manager who knows what he is doing.

 

[nopigfansintown]

The amount of money and quality Wilson and Clough had to work with is so far in excess to Adkins that most comparisons are utterly baseless. I'd argue that Wilson did better in his second season than the first, after failing to obtain automatic promotion with the most talented squad to play in league one since we've been here. We should have had the title wrapped up by the time Ched got sent down The squad in his second season was much poorer and play offs would have been an achievement. Adkins is on target for the fifth to twelfth placed finish that the squad that Clough built is capable of. Failure is a relative concept. Its extremely unlikely than any manager could get automatic next season, even more unlikely that we'd get a better manager than Adkins to start the rebuild.
























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[yorkshirecoast]

It's fine to fixate on his post-match interviews, but not his CV that contains multiple promotions?
What a bizarre statement.

You have only repeated a small part of my post and ignored the rest in order to try to make a silly point. Bonkers.

 

[chipsncake]

Adkins has had a mixed managerial career, and to be fair he's had more ups than downs. However what is of most relevance is how he has performed for us and I'm afraid he's been a disaster. Every aspect of his management has been found wanting and its time for him to go.

 

[Bladesince59]

Adkins has had a mixed managerial career, and to be fair he's had more ups than downs. However what is of most relevance is how he has performed for us and I'm afraid he's been a disaster. Every aspect of his management has been found wanting and its time for him to go.

I agree. Past performance is not a guide to the future etc. Present performance is mediocre to say the least.

 

[Kenilworth]

Well on current form. . . . . Any qualified physiotherapist in the Sheffield area.

Derek French is available, I believe

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Chris Wilder would be crazy to leave Northampton for us now. Crazy.

But aren’t Northampton in all sorts of financial difficulty? And he has a soft spot for our club….

 

[1danewhitehouse]

This summer clear out is fine if it happens. Hammond will come and its not beyond the realms of possibility that both Jay mac and Collins be given an extra year

I hope Hammond’s lack of pace will dissuade NA from making his signing permanent but suspect he will. I really hope he doesn’t let the likes of Collins and McEveley cling on any longer. We’ve been counting down the days to get rid of them for some time now.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

How about commenting on his abysmal performance here? I only mentioned Southampton because some are using his record there as some kind of justification for ignoring his numerous shortcomings here.

As much as the circumstances he inherited at Southampton were ideal, the circumstances he has inherited here have been shit. Brought in during the close season after the retained list had been done with a massive squad of mediocrity. Having the best of that bunch sold, not being backed in the transfer market, a slowing in the young talent coming through the academy etc. If we sack him before he’s had a chance to clear the decks and build his own team, we’ll never know whether he’d have been successful. He could go back to being a very good manager for someone else whislt we prat around with another manager starting again from scratch. Worth bearing in mind any replacement will have a worse CV and will have lost a chunk of our player budget on compensating Adkins and co and paying to get the new man in.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Strange - no mention of Hammond, Woolford or Sammon. Or his negative tactics - even at home. Or his bizarre team selections and substitutions. Or his deluded ramblings. But at least you like his CV.

His tactics were extremely expansive at the start of the season (Sharp, Sammon, Adams, Baxter and JCR all in the same side) but the players proved they couldn’t defend without more of them doing it. He’s tinkered about to try to find a system that works and has, thus far, failed. But I think a lot of managers would fail with this bunch. Let’s give him a crack at it with his own team, designed to play how he wants to play when he has some leeway in the market and see what he can do.

 

[Bladebri]

Adkins is the right man for us, if you want to bake a cake you need to be provided with the right ingredients, Adkins has not had that. UTB

 

[BushBlade]

Tbh, I've no idea where we should go from here. Adkins is doing a fucking awful job at present but can he turn it around?
I can think of several managers who've started well at one club but failed at the next.
I can think of some who've done well at low level and not as well at a higher level.

I can't think of anyone who has done well at two different clubs, with vastly different set ups and budgets, and then not gone on to further success.

Of course that doesn't mean it can't or won't happen.

I do know that the manager Adkins replaced seems to be doing a better job at Burton than he did with us. Maybe if we sack Adkins he'll take another club up from L1 whilst we're still arguing about his replacement and why he's failing.

Maybe with our next appointment we'll get lucky. But when have the Blades ever been lucky?

 

[sitwell]

It needs someone off the board to sit down with Adkins and look at whats wrong and plan ahead. Such a shame theyre spread all over the world
Who are the other silent fuckers on the board hiding behind McCabe and Phipps ,why don't they stand up and talk ?

 

[PeteBlade]

It needs someone off the board to sit down with Adkins and look at whats wrong and plan ahead. Such a shame theyre spread all over the world
Who are the other silent fuckers on the board hiding behind McCabe and Phipps ,why don't they stand up and talk ?

I wouldn't trust any of that board to come up with such a plan.

None of them know the first thing about football.

A DOF would know such details.

 

[sitwell]

Agree I would like Warnock ,he woudnt take any shit from both sides ,has said he wants that kind of job and he should be involved in the appointment if Adkins isn't interested. Maybe Wilder or Derry ,a young manager with hunger who would have mutual trust with Warnock but could just concentrate on the football and none of he outside pressure because that IS what Warnock is good at ,soaking up criticism ,he doesn't give a shit. One massive stumbling block ,Kevin McCabe ,however Warnock has shown personal feelings mean fuck all re Blackwell ,Leeds El Hadj djouff etc ,so maybe he could do it again ?

 

[Deleted member 875]

I wouldn't trust any of that board to come up with such a plan.

None of them know the first thing about football.

A DOF would know such details.

Yes, but you forget that the owner of Green Piling Ltd has probably forgotten more about football than any DOF will ever know.

I met the owner of Green Piling Ltd, at a fans forum at Handsworth Club in 2013 after we had sacked Wilson. He was very, very uninspiring, and looked very nervous and aprehensive meeting the fans. He might be a nice bloke and good at running Green Piling Ltd but for fuck sake, he is totally out of his depth running a football club.