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[Newbury Blade]

I hope this won't come across as precious or over-sensitive, but last night a member of this forum posted the following comment under one of mine:
Why dont you go on play on the motorway you sycophantic lickspittle
This was in response to my pointing out that, contrary to what some people were claiming, we had in fact signed players in previous transfer windows. Not that controversial really.
Anyway my point is that such comments, which clearly come into the category of personal abuse (and I have made a complaint to the administrators on that basis), can be even more offensive than they seem when people write them. In my case for example, I've been receiving treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder in relation to the death of one of my children. Believe me, in those circumstances you don't want or expect to find someone who claims to be a fellow Blade, whether he was serious or not, telling you to "go play on the motorway".
You may say the person who posted the comment has clearly got his own problems and should just be ignored. But if they can say that kind of thing once, they can say it again, and not just to me. So please can people be aware of this.
I've supported this club for 50 years and enjoy the fact that we can debate our different opinions here, and things can get heated at times, but this kind comment is completely unacceptable.
If you've read this far, thanks and I'll let you get back to commenting on the JTW.

 

[Newbury Blade]

I hope this won't come across as precious or over-sensitive, but last night a member of this forum posted the following comment under one of mine:
Why dont you go on play on the motorway you sycophantic lickspittle
This was in response to my pointing out that, contrary to what some people were claiming, we had in fact signed players in previous transfer windows. Not that controversial really.
Anyway my point is that such comments, which clearly come into the category of personal abuse (and I have made a complaint to the administrators on that basis), can be even more offensive than they seem when people write them. In my case for example, I've been receiving treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder in relation to the death of one of my children. Believe me, in those circumstances you don't want or expect to find someone who claims to be a fellow Blade, whether he was serious or not, telling you to "go play on the motorway".
You may say the person who posted the comment has clearly got his own problems and should just be ignored. But if they can say that kind of thing once, they can say it again, and not just to me. So please can people be aware of this.
I've supported this club for 50 years and enjoy the fact that we can debate our different opinions here, and things can get heated at times, but this kind comment is completely unacceptable.
If you've read this far, thanks and I'll let you get back to commenting on the JTW.

I mean of course "this kind of comment" in the penultimate sentence. It was the opposite of kind.

 

[axel smeets]

A very fair point, and I also think it should apply to two potentially very libellous posts which have been made on this forum in the past 24 hours. I should think we'd all be devastated if there wasn't even a forum to post on any more, never mind the potential financial impact on Foxy and Linz. I still can't get over the stupidity of the first one.

 

[Darren]

I hope this won't come across as precious or over-sensitive, but last night a member of this forum posted the following comment under one of mine:
Why dont you go on play on the motorway you sycophantic lickspittle
This was in response to my pointing out that, contrary to what some people were claiming, we had in fact signed players in previous transfer windows. Not that controversial really.
Anyway my point is that such comments, which clearly come into the category of personal abuse (and I have made a complaint to the administrators on that basis), can be even more offensive than they seem when people write them. In my case for example, I've been receiving treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder in relation to the death of one of my children. Believe me, in those circumstances you don't want or expect to find someone who claims to be a fellow Blade, whether he was serious or not, telling you to "go play on the motorway".
You may say the person who posted the comment has clearly got his own problems and should just be ignored. But if they can say that kind of thing once, they can say it again, and not just to me. So please can people be aware of this.
I've supported this club for 50 years and enjoy the fact that we can debate our different opinions here, and things can get heated at times, but this kind comment is completely unacceptable.
If you've read this far, thanks and I'll let you get back to commenting on the JTW.

Sorry for your loss. That must be awful.

I agree about the general point. There's absolutely no need for abuse or getting personal. Like my mum used to say - if you can't say anything nice (or at least non abusive), don't say anything at all.

 

[Booker4]

Totally agree with our sentiment Newbury. Sorry for your loss, I have three young uns myself and I'm really sorry to hear that. I'm always amazed at the level of insults between our own fans who hide behind a computer screen and throw out insults to people they don't even know.

 

[dingledog]

Sorry to hear of your loss and the fact that people were at best insensitive and at worse abusive.

Unfortunately it's a downside of the Internet, it does not discriminate between offensive keyboard warriors and good honest debate. I don't say this to excuse them.

 

[Ecco1889]

The person who wrote that insult will probably be ashamed when they see this thread,I hope they man-up,apologise and we move on.. this football shit really gets under your skin at times,I understand the anger but not the nastiness tbh

 

[judge]

It was a throwaway comment i wasnt angry at the time it was a joke and i thought it would be taken as such

I had no.idea of your personal circumstances and im truly sorry for your loss and any offence ive caused

You could have just pm'd me i would have immediately apologised and that would have been the end of it

 

[Darren]

It was a throwaway comment i wasnt angry at the time it was a joke and i thought it would be taken as such

I had no.idea of your personal circumstances and im truly sorry for your loss and any offence ive caused

You could have just pm'd me i would have immediately apologised and that would have been the end of it

Well done for fessing up

I think that's the point about throwing insults around, even if you are joking. You have no idea what their personal circumstances are and how it might effect them, so best avoided really.

 

[billyblademan]

The person who wrote that insult will probably be ashamed when they see this thread,I hope they man-up,apologise and we move on.. this football shit really gets under your skin at times,I understand the anger but not the nastiness tbh

This is a great quote. When United concede, all our stomachs drop, one or two of us may mutter 'buggar', or think thoughts rather worse in our heads...Some feel the need to abuse the players, telling them where to go. We all understand the anger, but I also don't get the nastiness.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I think this thread raises a great point about posts, particularly recently, on here.

There are many contrasting opinions on here, and that's what makes it a great place to discuss all things SUFC, however as the opening post suggests - some the choice of language is awful at best.

And what makes it frustrating is that some of valid points raised in some posts are lost or overlooked because of abuse or choice of language in the same post. This is a massive shame, and has made me stop replying to said valid points because of the other stuff.

Its not just the stuff aimed at other posters either, some of the stuff written about Adkins/Phipps/McCabe is vile and frankly embarrassing, I don't want to be associated with stuff like that.

Do the three names mentioned, no matter what your thoughts are on how they do their job, really deserve such hatred? No, not at all.

Sorry to hear about your loss and personal circumstances Newbury Blade , chin up pal.

 

[Jon Bon]

A very fair point, and I also think it should apply to two potentially very libellous posts which have been made on this forum in the past 24 hours. I should think we'd all be devastated if there wasn't even a forum to post on any more, never mind the potential financial impact on Foxy and Linz. I still can't get over the stupidity of the first one.

Ok. I'd like to apologise for my 'Burn Signs Confirmed' thread. I never intended to get anyone's hopes up that we'd actually signed someone and, looking back, I can see how wrong it was to even insinuate - even in jest - that the club would or could make such a signing. Sorry.

 

[axel smeets]

Ok. I'd like to apologise for my 'Burn Signs Confirmed' thread. I never intended to get anyone's hopes up that we'd actually signed someone and, looking back, I can see how wrong it was to even insinuate - even in jest - that the club would or could make such a signing. Sorry.

Yes, you should be dragged through the courts for even making such a suggestion ;-)

 

[Barney]

You raise a good point and sorry for your loss Newbury. I've had my fair share of personal abuse on here, fortunately for the vast majority I haven't been tempted into matching nor returning any of it. Unfortunately, when I brought up the point about the abuse that gets thrown around in here, I was met with more and accused of whinging to the moderators. It is a problem and not to delve too much into anything I've said before, but I'd like to think a bit more of a stronger stance ought to be taken to deter the re occurrence of any of it in the future.

 

[I should coco]

In my case for example, I've been receiving treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder in relation to the death of one of my children. Believe me, in those circumstances you don't want or expect to find someone who claims to be a fellow Blade, whether he was serious or not, telling you to "go play on the motorway".

NB, I've got two kids and can't begin to imagine what you've gone through but perhaps you need to think about this.

You are on a rough and tumble message board where things get heated. Sometimes people have had a drink, sometimes it's late at night.

I agree that personal abuse shouldn't happen but it does and always will. You really need to consider if being on here is doing you any good.

I'm not trying to make things worse or wind you up, but I'm afraid that appealing for some ideal of moderate and sensitive behaviour is frankly unrealistic.

Sorry, but that's how I see it.

ISC

Credit to Judge for fessing up though.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

NB, I've got two kids and can't begin to imagine what you've gone through but perhaps you need to think about this.

You are on a rough and tumble message board where things get heated. Sometimes people have had a drink, sometimes it's late at night.

I agree that personal abuse shouldn't happen but it does and always will. You really need to consider if being on here is doing you any good.

I'm not trying to make things worse or wind you up, but I'm afraid that appealing for some ideal of moderate and sensitive behaviour is frankly unrealistic.

Sorry, but that's how I see it.

ISC

Credit to Judge for fessing up though.

Surely no one should have to avoid posting because of the fear of personal abuse?

Im sure Foxy and Linz make it clear in the rules and have reminded users several times that it (abuse, over the top language) wont be tolerated.

To liken the forum to a pub - if you had a customer being abusive to a regular, you wouldn't tell the regular to think about visiting in the future would you? You'd bar the dick head.

 

[I should coco]

HCDM

Surely no one should have to avoid posting because of the fear of personal abuse?

Im sure Foxy and Linz make it clear in the rules and have reminded users several times that it (abuse, over the top language) wont be tolerated.

To liken the forum to a pub - if you had a customer being abusive to a regular, you wouldn't tell the regular to think about visiting in the future would you? You'd bar the dick head.

Agreed in principle but then who decides what is abuse or banter or knockabout joking?

I was serious that NB should consider staying away for a bit for his own benefit. If every post on here was forensically checked for the slightest abuse, we'd have some pretty short threads.

ISC

 

[Deleted member 875]

You raise a good point and sorry for your loss Newbury. I've had my fair share of personal abuse on here, fortunately for the vast majority I haven't been tempted into matching nor returning any of it. Unfortunately, when I brought up the point about the abuse that gets thrown around in here, I was met with more and accused of whinging to the moderators. It is a problem and not to delve too much into anything I've said before, but I'd like to think a bit more of a stronger stance ought to be taken to deter the re occurrence of any of it in the future.

There was an occurence on here the other week when someone told JonnyRed(WCFC) to fuck off back his own club and is own shitty little message board, or words to that effect, when he hadn't solicited such a strong and spiteful response. When it comes to abuse like that, i do agree with you and think that a stronger stance should be taken to deter the re occurence of it in the future.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

HCDM



Agreed in principle but then who decides what is abuse or banter or knockabout joking?

I was serious that NB should consider staying away for a bit for his own benefit. If every post on here was forensically checked for the slightest abuse, we'd have some pretty short threads.

ISC

I think its fairly clear when reading threads what is banter and abuse.

Think most of it comes down to manners and common courtesy.

 

[PeteBlade]

I hope this won't come across as precious or over-sensitive, but last night a member of this forum posted the following comment under one of mine:
Why dont you go on play on the motorway you sycophantic lickspittle
This was in response to my pointing out that, contrary to what some people were claiming, we had in fact signed players in previous transfer windows. Not that controversial really.
Anyway my point is that such comments, which clearly come into the category of personal abuse (and I have made a complaint to the administrators on that basis), can be even more offensive than they seem when people write them. In my case for example, I've been receiving treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder in relation to the death of one of my children. Believe me, in those circumstances you don't want or expect to find someone who claims to be a fellow Blade, whether he was serious or not, telling you to "go play on the motorway".
You may say the person who posted the comment has clearly got his own problems and should just be ignored. But if they can say that kind of thing once, they can say it again, and not just to me. So please can people be aware of this.
I've supported this club for 50 years and enjoy the fact that we can debate our different opinions here, and things can get heated at times, but this kind comment is completely unacceptable.
If you've read this far, thanks and I'll let you get back to commenting on the JTW.

Sorry to hear of your loss NB and people shouldn't dish out the personal abuse for having an opinion.

I'm aware I sail class to the wind sometimes so if I ever genuinely offend someone, I hope they'd let me know.

 

[Esablade]

fortunately for the vast majority I haven't been tempted into matching nor returning any of it.

You reserve that for the 'small minority's' don't you Barney

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Sorry to hear of your loss NB and people shouldn't dish out the personal abuse for having an opinion.

I'm aware I sail class to the wind sometimes so if I ever genuinely offend someone, I hope they'd let me know.

Your use of 'class' instead of 'close' offends me.

 

[PeteBlade]

Your use of 'class' instead of 'close' offends me.

My autocorrect tells you to git lest...

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

My autocorrect tells you to git lest...

Least yours is on your phone. I married my autocorrect.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

My autocorrect tells you to git lest...

"ello ello" - is thit officer crabtree by any chonce?

UTB

 

[sitwell]

Unfortunately some actively seek attention and abuse and then bleat when it comes their way ,also conveniently forgetting the abuse they hand out themselves. Abuse comes in all guises not just naughty words ,and yes I hold my hands up I do sometimes ,but football is emotional and sometimes its difficult to remain rational. I don't think any of it is meant ,at least it has never been with me , giving or receiving I hope.

 

[Jan Age]

A very good point well made. A lot of people use the internet to say things they wouldn't normally say to a 'stranger' as they are not constrained by personal boundaries.

There is a clear line between debate, discussion, banter and then personal insults.

I honestly think some people don't read the whole post before responding they just jump on the first snippet that goes against their agenda.

Do what I do and if the response isn't something you would be happy with in a normal social setting just ignore them.

PLEASE NOTE: That does not mean every time I do not respond to a comment, quote etc. that I did not like your point.

You can have a reasoned debate with most people on here no problems.

Just remember we are Sheffield United Football Club and we all want the same thing (say that before you post each time)

 

[robbiez666]

I think it's a very valid point to raise Newbury Blade. It tends to spark up when emotions are high and when alcohol is involved (just like real life sadly).

We'll hopefully never go as low again as during Chedgate. That was a horrendous time on all message boards.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Is there anyone else NOT offended by football forum "personal" abuse?

I think it's quite hysterical that someone would think that by "abusing" an avatar and a forum name they're offending me personally.
Says more about the abuser rather than the "abused", which is me in this case.

And this "ignore policy".... why are you on a football forum?

Offended?

 

[Blade56]

We all know judge throws random insults around (believe me as a "Tory boy" I've had my share). And I wouldn't be surprised if nearly everyone who posts on here hasn't had one thrown at them or had a chorkle at his insults to others. Most give as much back as they receive and it's all forgotten with a Wink smiley.
Whilst I have totally sympathy with Newbury Blade 's tragic loss that as a father I cannot and don't want to imagine I don't think malice was intended. On this occasion the flippant comment crossed paths with a real life tragic event. judge has manned up and said sorry and I hope you accept.
On a positive note whilst we have our spats and drunk / drug fuelled rants nearly every poster on here is supportive at a time of loss. I was overwhelmed a year ago at the response and messages of support after a double loss in a week from people I had never met but chatted and disagreed with on the forum.
Newbury Blade, you said you will leave the forum after this tragic coincidence, I would suggest or even ask you take a few days to reconsider, as I said last night it's judges way of showing love to fellow Blades. I and I'm sure we hope to see you posting again soon