Time Wasting

[Alfreton14Blade]

Makes a welcome change to see George doing it rather than the opposition keeper.

Exactly. I'm sick of opposition goalies (Bury's comes immediately to mind) taking eons to take goal-kicks & free-kicks & their players crawling off the pitch when substituted while we act within some self-limiting Queensbury Rules sort of mindset.

Just glad that, over recent weeks, we've seemed to acknowledge the need to adopt some of football's Dark Arts. We won't get promoted acting like prissy prima donnas. We need to get dirty (& we are)!

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

It's not just about having an official time-keeper - it's the rule changes which are required as a result. The game at the top level would run on the basis of the clock only running when the ball is in play, where as the rest of us would play to the current rules. It's a significant difference. For me, it is essential that someone playing for their local teams gets to play to the same rules as the top professionals they see on TV, and the not-so-top professionals they see at the Lane. It is one of the things which encourages people to get involved in playing football, not just watching it - the fact that it's a game which can be fairly easily (and inexpensively) recreated - with the only fundamental difference being the skill level of those involved.

I can live with goal line technology (although I'd prefer not to have it) because it is only enforcing the rules which exist. What is being proposed is actually playing to different rules at different levels of the game.

Wholeheartedly agree. Just amazed that anyone thinks the same.

I'm more of an anti-GLT extremist and just think it's utter nonsense.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I hate timewasting. It’s cheating. Pure and simple. But, as long as the powers that be continue to discourage referees from clamping down hard on it, it will continue to be a part of the game. Since we’ve been in this league, I feel like we only get to watch about 45 minutes football out of the ninety due to teams coming to the lane and timewasting. Although the worst example I can recall was in the Championship when Gary McCallister’s Coventry came to the lane on boxing day. The game predictably finished 0-0 given there were only about 30 minutes of football played such was the extent of the timewasting from minute 1.


Despite how much I hate it, the old saying springs to mind “If you can’t beat them, join them”. Playing nice for too long has got us nowhere whilst teams like MK, Millwall etc. have come to the lane, kicked us off the park. I still remember Crewe at home when Ade Akinbiyi carried a defender across the box on his back and didn’t get a pen because he stayed on his feet. Unfortunately, in the horrible corrupt cesspit that we now call our professional game, cheats do prosper. We’ve played nice and got nowhere and as long as this is the game, we might as well start playing it. So in some ways it’s nice to see us finally becoming nasty and wily and full of gamesmanship as it’s getting us points on the board and feels like karma.

Agree it's up to the administrators.

Clough said, and I think it's true, that managers had been briefed that players would have protection so his teams got on with the game (as did his dad's). Turns out they weren't being protected after all.

I'd much rather we play fair, but it puts you at a significant disadvantage.

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

Wholeheartedly agree. Just amazed that anyone thinks the same.

I'm more of an anti-GLT extremist and just think it's utter nonsense.

I used to be an anti-GLT extremist, but over time I've just come to consider it very very odd, as opposed to being strongly against it. As I expected, it's made very little difference to the game, because the number of occasions on which it actually corrects the decision of the officials is so small - a handful each season in the whole of the Premier League. Replays are not used, on the other hand, to correct off-side decisions - which would be perfectly possible, and there are several controversial off-side decisions in every match. Of course, using it that way would turn the game into a farce - endless having to stop to check the replay - but that means the only argument for using GLT is that it's OK because it's hardly ever necessary to use it, so it doesn't slow things down too much.

Slightly inconsistently, however, I am in favour of heavy retrospective bans for players shown on replays to have dived. Despite the fact that this is obviously something which could only be applied at games with TV cameras, I think the damage being done to the game by diving is so significant that it has to be stamped out. You'd have thought that being shown on TV rolling around on the ground in mock agony when nobody even touched you would be embarrassing enough that diving wouldn't happen at games with cameras anyway, but it seems some players have no concept of shame, so an alternative approach is needed. I'd give an automatic 10 game ban to any player shown by a replay to have dived - whether the referee saw it and 'dealt with it' during the game or not. For a second offence I'd make it 20 games, and so on. That would soon get rid of the problem - and when it stops at the professional level, I think we'd pretty much see an end to it in the rest of the sport too. Those who do it are just copying what they see on TV.

 

[Bladesince59]

I imagine George gets all his tips from the gaffer - the erstwhile time waster at Wigan etc,

What's happened to Howerd? Just out of favour I guess. Lonfg is doing OK at present but I would like to see a proper keeper signed sometime soon.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I used to be an anti-GLT extremist, but over time I've just come to consider it very very odd, as opposed to being strongly against it. As I expected, it's made very little difference to the game, because the number of occasions on which it actually corrects the decision of the officials is so small - a handful each season in the whole of the Premier League. Replays are not used, on the other hand, to correct off-side decisions - which would be perfectly possible, and there are several controversial off-side decisions in every match. Of course, using it that way would turn the game into a farce - endless having to stop to check the replay - but that means the only argument for using GLT is that it's OK because it's hardly ever necessary to use it, so it doesn't slow things down too much.

Slightly inconsistently, however, I am in favour of heavy retrospective bans for players shown on replays to have dived. Despite the fact that this is obviously something which could only be applied at games with TV cameras, I think the damage being done to the game by diving is so significant that it has to be stamped out. You'd have thought that being shown on TV rolling around on the ground in mock agony when nobody even touched you would be embarrassing enough that diving wouldn't happen at games with cameras anyway, but it seems some players have no concept of shame, so an alternative approach is needed. I'd give an automatic 10 game ban to any player shown by a replay to have dived - whether the referee saw it and 'dealt with it' during the game or not. For a second offence I'd make it 20 games, and so on. That would soon get rid of the problem - and when it stops at the professional level, I think we'd pretty much see an end to it in the rest of the sport too. Those who do it are just copying what they see on TV.

Offside v GLT. Exactly!

I think it was Euro 2012 where if they'd had GLT then a goal against England (as it happens) would have been given bc it had crossed the line but it turns out it shouldn't have been given bc it was offside, but that wasn't given either.

In that case two wrongs made a right. GLT would've made one wrong a wrong.

Ultimately I think my anti-GLT stance is a form of Buddhism: We should calmly our fate and it will all even our in the end instead of frantically trying to control everything.



UTMB

 

[Fulwood Blade]

We DIDN'T time waste - we managed the game to it's conclusion.

After Bradford scored there was still a decent amount of time left and if they had scored a 2nd it could have been panic stations.

For once, we didn't retreat - we just played normally, got it in their half and tried to keep it there.

We were once again - solid and professional.

As for George - he's just a nipper - slap his legs

UTB.