Higdon back?

[Blade56]

my two sons are adamant he's back at BDTBL.

can't find owt, is he back?

 

[Blade56]

Answering my own question here but they've just shown me a bullet on Sky's news saying Oldham have sent him back, it's also on their website.

 

[zablade]

Oh. Good.

 

[JohnDenver]

All kitchens to DEFCON1.

 

[stringjunior]

All kitchens to DEFCON1.

To be fair, he could spend 24 hours in my kitchen and still not get to the bottom of the food Mrs Stringjunior has left over

 

[Bladesince59]

Of course he's back - he's shit.

 

[Woodwardfan]

5 goals in 10 games for Oldham.

Presumably he's match fit by now and we've never seen him match fit in truth.

I don't think anybody at Bramall Lane knows how good or bad Higdon is, but a recent 1 in 2 goal ratio at this level playing for a struggling club cannot be ignored, especially when our big striker is like a fish out of water!

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Did he fall (recalled) or was he pushed (sent back)?

 

[zablade]

Oldham fans thought he was rubbish and look at the season they are having!

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

5 goals in 10 games for Oldham.

Presumably he's match fit by now and we've never seen him match fit in truth.

I don't think anybody at Bramall Lane knows how good or bad Higdon is, but a recent 1 in 2 goal ratio at this level playing for a struggling club cannot be ignored, especially when our big striker is like a fish out of water!

Higdon is one of Adkins' successes purely in terms of getting him on a football pitch, like Coutts.

Agreed it's not reasonable to judge him yet.

Watched the Scunthorpe game and Sammon played much better than I first thought.

I think second time round you know the result so you're less concerned when a player doesn't win the ball.

He won his fair share, played couple of decent passes, and generally did his job.

Very interesting contrast with Done who seemed on a par but runs around more and so gets zero grief.

 

[BalancedBlade]

http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/players-return-to-parent-clubs-2866037.aspx

Too many players apparently !!

 

[wizadry]

Very interesting contrast with Done who seemed on a par but runs around more and so gets zero grief.

Done is a good league one player and has credits in the bag from his performances in his stint with us, Sammon needs to show he can be better and he will then get less grief, it's quite simple really.

 

[Jehovah]

He's scored 1 in 2 for Oldham. As a loan goes, it would appear he's done well, isn't this a good thing?

 

[Woodwardfan]

Done's a different type of player and less likely to strike a partnership with Sharp, though it's worth working at I'm sure.

We have a certain way of playing at present and the main focus is on keeping clean sheets. It is working but before long we will need a goal and we have a really positive bench with Adams, Sammon, Higdon, Reed, Ryce, Baxter?, Scougall all available as impact players. Of the two big lads I'd introduce Higdon as he's got a good career goalscoring record and he's more aggressive. Sammon has never had goalscoring in his locker.

 

[Rodley]

Higdon is atrocious. End of.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Done's a different type of player and less likely to strike a partnership with Sharp, though it's worth working at I'm sure.

We have a certain way of playing at present and the main focus is on keeping clean sheets. It is working but before long we will need a goal and we have a really positive bench with Adams, Sammon, Higdon, Reed, Ryce, Baxter?, Scougall all available as impact players. Of the two big lads I'd introduce Higdon as he's got a good career goalscoring record and he's more aggressive. Sammon has never had goalscoring in his locker.

But despite being a forward he shouldn't be judged mainly on his goals. This is the McNulty argument.

Sammon (on form) very much helps us defend from the front, a lot more than Done - and, going forward, didn't Billy get six in six alongside Sammon for most of the time?

Someone else posted that more or less all our big front men are ridiculed - essentially for the crime of not being Brian Deane.

And Keith is miserably on his case - for not being Billy Whitehurst - which doesn't help.

 

[FTPE]

We don't have to compare Higdon with Done, Sharp and Sparky.
We have to compare him with Sammon.
He might not run around as much but I'd say he's just as good at holding the ball up, and goal scoring-wise he's better.
I'm not his biggest fan but as a target man he's at least as good as what we've got.

 

[Bladesway]

5 goals in 10 games for Oldham.

Presumably he's match fit by now and we've never seen him match fit in truth.

I don't think anybody at Bramall Lane knows how good or bad Higdon is, but a recent 1 in 2 goal ratio at this level playing for a struggling club cannot be ignored, especially when our big striker is like a fish out of water!

Best we give him 10 games to find out if he is up to the task. After all he hasnt just had a full season under his belt proving himself worse than Chris Porter has he?

 

[Bladesway]

We don't have to compare Higdon with Done, Sharp and Sparky.
We have to compare him with Sammon.
He might not run around as much but I'd say he's just as good at holding the ball up, and goal scoring-wise he's better.
I'm not his biggest fan but as a target man he's at least as good as what we've got.

What has proved this and where? I have seen nothing from Higdon proving him anything other than a useless lump that the ball bounces off at random angles. I'd have Daruis a million times over before Higdon. Even now.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

We don't have to compare Higdon with Done, Sharp and Sparky.
We have to compare him with Sammon.
He might not run around as much but I'd say he's just as good at holding the ball up, and goal scoring-wise he's better.
I'm not his biggest fan but as a target man he's at least as good as what we've got.

I think Sammon's relative mobility is why he's more in favour.

When he plays well he gets to the ball, wins it, retains it, and passes it to a teammate. He also closes down defenders down well - mobility and stamina help here.

A couple of times at least this season he's been a game changing investment ;-) by occupying defences and relieving a sustained period of pressure.

I think he's currently much more suited to this than Higdon, but who knows?

 

[mattbianco1]

Does this mean we can send Sammon back? Oh goody

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Does this mean we can send Sammon back? Oh goody

It doesn't I believe. Higgo's was an emergency loan – think it's different for season-long loans. He can be recalled in Jan by Derby. Not sure it can be terminated, or even if that's something we'd be likely to do anyway.

 

[mattbianco1]

It doesn't I believe. Higgo's was an emergency loan – think it's different for season-long loans. He can be recalled in Jan by Derby. Not sure it can be terminated, or even if that's something we'd be likely to do anyway.

I don't dislike Sammon but, as others have stated above, Higdon could do a similar job and is currently on a run of form which gives him a 1 in 2 goals ratio. I'm all for giving Higdon a chance.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I don't dislike Sammon but, as others have stated above, Higdon could do a similar job and is currently on a run of form which gives him a 1 in 2 goals ratio. I'm all for giving Higdon a chance.

Sammon is more mobile than Higdon and, I think, generally the way Adkins sets up this is important.

Sammon can chase down defenders more quickly and more persistently than Higdon.

I'd be interested to see how he fared but I don't think, even with his 1:2 goals:game ratio he is an improvement on what we've got.

Might be able to do a job as a late sub but beyond that I'd be surprised.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

On the rare occasions he's played for us this season Higdon's done ok and looked more effective than Sammon. If Adkins doesn't get a decent target man in January I'd rather have Higdon as an option from the bench than Sammon.

 

[JohnDenver]

it's not reasonable to judge him yet.

I think it is. In fact, I've seen more than enough to judge him.

He's our striker of absolute last resort, and in that position we need a young player like DCL, not an ageing lump like Higdon.

 

[katedeluxe91]

Chatting to Oldham fans at the FA cup game he was far from a fan favourite with them.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Sammon is more mobile than Higdon and, I think, generally the way Adkins sets up this is important.

Sammon can chase down defenders more quickly and more persistently than Higdon.

I'd be interested to see how he fared but I don't think, even with his 1:2 goals:game ratio he is an improvement on what we've got.

Might be able to do a job as a late sub but beyond that I'd be surprised.

I agree that Adkins probably demands more in terms of defensive work than Higdon would be able to offer. From an attacking perspective I think we are yet to see Done and Sharp link up well, and Sammon also seems off form. Maybe Adkins could try Higdon from the bench? The style we play currently would possibly suit him better than what Adkins originally planned.

 

[davidpinder]

Cloughs best signing

 

[Woodwardfan]

Best we give him 10 games to find out if he is up to the task. After all he hasnt just had a full season under his belt proving himself worse than Chris Porter has he?

No actually, to date 15 games in total for us in a season and a half, in between injuries/ suspension.

Anyway, the issue is whether he is a better impact target man than Sammon. I think he is for the last 20/25 minutes when needed, with men around him in the final third.