Quick message to George Long

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Woodwardfan said:
Quick message to O. Poster - have you considered retracting your OP? Mind you there are 6 "likes" on it.
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No I stand by every word of it he is Northern Premier league standard at best,

I reckon every opposition keeper i have seen at the Lane this season is better than him.
 

George grew into the game. By the second half he was clearing out players in front of him to claim & catch a hanging high ball.

He was incredibly unfortunate that his first half punch (an understandable decision in the circumstances) fell straight to a player in space who wasn't closed down & who produced a top class finish.

I do agree with those who say he deserves a break for this decision (which wasn't IMO a bad decision in the first place). His was hardly a mistake-riddled performance: quite the opposite in fact, in trying conditions. And, as others have said, Southend's very highly rated goalie (£1.5m+ highly rated) made an actual blooper for Baxter's goal.
 
Harry's Game said:
No I stand by every word of it he is Northern Premier league standard at best,

I reckon every opposition keeper i have seen at the Lane this season is better than him.
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You suggested he becomes a florist. Disrespectful and stupid and serving no purpose whatsoever. Now you are being disrespectful to the Northern Premier League. I for one would have been proud to play at that level but I never felt the need to become a florist, not that there's anything wrong with florists:):rolleyes:.
 
I am afraid it isn't, I have seen all this defending of players who aren't good enough until it's too late. Simmo was defended constantly until he got us relegated.

People want him to succeed cos he came through our academy, fact is he will never make it as pro , none league regular within three years at somewhere like North Ferriby Utd.
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
George grew into the game. By the second half he was clearing out players in front of him to claim & catch a hanging high ball.

He was incredibly unfortunate that his first half punch (an understandable decision in the circumstances) fell straight to a player in space who wasn't closed down & who produced a top class finish.

I do agree with those who say he deserves a break for this decision (which wasn't IMO a bad decision in the first place). His was hardly a mistake-riddled performance: quite the opposite in fact, in trying conditions. And, as others have said, Southend's very highly rated goalie (£1.5m+ highly rated) made an actual blooper for Baxter's goal.
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Aren't opinions marvelous things. I felt Long had a decent game. I felt he looked confident and grew into the game, distribution decent and overall not a bad game and very unlucky with the first goal. First goal, ball whipped in, a player backing into him and he got enough on the ball to clear it out of the area. No one closed their player down and an excellent strike went in off the post.

Most posters seem to agree he had a reasonable game and wasn't at fault for either goal. Adkins an experienced manager and goalkeeper felt he had a good game. Yet the OP felt his performance was so appallingly bad he ought to give up football all together?

I feel that some fans have entrenched positions and look to anything to justify that position whether valid or not. The more they are challenged on the validity of their opinions the more entrenched their position becomes and the more ridiculous their arguments to support their point of view.

I felt Hammond had a reasonable game also but this didn't stop a 'fan' behind me berating him with foul abuse every touch of the ball he made. When Hammond made an unquestionably good pass or tackle, it was met with silence as it didn't support the entrenched position.
 
mosbolad said:
What did you think of the goal conceded by Bentley for our first?
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I think Southend turned down a bid for Bentley from QPR of well over a million in the summer.
 
BushBlade said:
I think Southend turned down a bid for Bentley from QPR of well over a million in the summer.
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That's right Bushblade. I'm not having a go a Bentley he is a very decent young keeper, but it certainly was an error. If Long had made that error he would have been hung drawn and quartered and scattered to the four corners of the ground.
 
It was dreadful conditions to be a keeper yesterday and he did ok. The punch was a mess and seemed to be down to him misjudging the flight slightly.

Bentley's a good keeper and he made a howler on the first.

I think he can make as a keeper. He needs to be playing regularly now though. I'd rather him than Howard but he needs to be given support and patience. No point having a go at him every time something goes wrong. He's the best option until January. I think, if he can gain confidence, he'll be much more solid.
 
Harry's Game said:
I am afraid it isn't, I have seen all this defending of players who aren't good enough until it's too late. Simmo was defended constantly until he got us relegated.

People want him to succeed cos he came through our academy, fact is he will never make it as pro , none league regular within three years at somewhere like North Ferriby Utd.
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People may in fact want him to succeed as he came through our academy, but the probable truth of most supporters is that we actually want EVERY Blade player to succeed no matter whether they come from the academy or were purchased.

This systematic belittling of some of our young players is getting tiresome. Unfortunately this constant issue of little progress by managers in the third tier appears to be spilling over into areas where it is not needed.

You may be proved right about Long - but as it is the accepted thing in football that most goalkeepers learn over time by experience, it is more than likely that we won't see the benefit of Long as he will move probably on. There are of course exceptions (Jack Buckland is one) but everything considered.

Having a reserve team - playing the same amount of games as the first team used to be the solution - why it was ever scrapped was probably a stupid thing, but to dismiss Long at such an early stage of his career is just sad.

As for Southends first goal - shit marking on the edge of our box - should never have been allowed to be in that position of a free shot.

UTB
 
blade too long said:
the description he flapped at it

total bollocks he punched it 25 yards

this vilification of players is ridiculous , you go on like he dropped it at his feet
criticism is fine , if its based on the truth but your just telling blatant lies to have a dig to bolster some agenda you have
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Agree with this, I'd play Howard ahead of Long but it was a half decent punch and he isn't to blame for the total lack of marking on the edge of the box which we repeated at the next corner BTW.

In addition why wasn't anyone marking the Southend player stood on Long. How can a professional team not mark two players at a corner - in some ways that is more worrying than any other thing to emerge from yesterday. Who job is it to organise that ?
 

spongebobblade said:
Agree that the defence should have closed there player down but let's get things straight. Long didn't punch the ball out, he parried it under little pressure when the vast majority of goalkeepers would have attempted to catch it
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Would have been better to push it into the corner or even over the goal line to concede a corner. I can't understand why he didn't catch it - he certainly seemed to have time.
 
alcoblade said:
We should be planning for next season anyway. Every effort should be being made to to shift out any player possible (bar about 5) . If that means fucking this season off, so be it.

I'd wait until we are safe from relegation ( which will be a good while yet!) and start the ball rolling.

UTB
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post of the year.. bravo.
 
mosbolad said:
That's right Bushblade. I'm not having a go a Bentley he is a very decent young keeper, but it certainly was an error. If Long had made that error he would have been hung drawn and quartered and scattered to the four corners of the ground.
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Exactly.
 
Harry's Game said:
No I stand by every word of it he is Northern Premier league standard at best,

I reckon every opposition keeper i have seen at the Lane this season is better than him.
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Complete and utter gash response and a poor attempt to justify your 'look at me' post - as noted by many posters.
Let it go and admit it that this thread is unjust and unnecessary.

George may not turn out to be the number 1 choice but based on yesterday's performance (and obviously from training) he more than deserves to be starting the next game.

Keep it up George!
 
makblade said:
Complete and utter gash response and a poor attempt to justify your 'look at me' post - as noted by many posters.
Let it go and admit it that this thread is unjust and unnecessary.

George may not turn out to be the number 1 choice but based on yesterday's performance (and obviously from training) he more than deserves to be starting the next game.

Keep it up George!
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blade too long said:
the description he flapped at it

total bollocks he punched it 25 yards

this vilification of players is ridiculous , you go on like he dropped it at his feet
criticism is fine , if its based on the truth but your just telling blatant lies to have a dig to bolster some agenda you have
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blade too long said:
the description he flapped at it

total bollocks he punched it 25 yards

this vilification of players is ridiculous , you go on like he dropped it at his feet
criticism is fine , if its based on the truth but your just telling blatant lies to have a dig to bolster some agenda you have
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Agreed ..... If we want to vilify anyone its the numpties who should have been defending that left a player in acres of space on the edge of our box !! :eek:

UTB & FTP
 
Harry's Game said:
fact is he will never make it as pro , none league regular within three years at somewhere like North Ferriby Utd.
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As much as i don't rate Long, the fact of the matter is that he is already a pro. I know it's hard to fathom but it's true. :rolleyes::)
 
spongebobblade said:
In a nutshell we have been extremely spoilt with some decent keepers over the last 25 years but Simmo, Long and Howard shows just how far we have fallen and just how important a position it is to fill rather than our current make do and mend situation
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Is it coincidence that this is about the time we have had Collins playing at centre half ?
 
blade too long said:
the description he flapped at it

total bollocks he punched it 25 yards

this vilification of players is ridiculous , you go on like he dropped it at his feet
criticism is fine , if its based on the truth but your just telling blatant lies to have a dig to bolster some agenda you have
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Watch it carefully. He doesn't punch or flap. He parries it
sitwell said:
Is it coincidence that this is about the time we have had Collins playing at centre half ?
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id add Collins to that list but he ain't a keeper. Without doubt for me they are the 2 positions we need to address most. We may not be fluent or prolific but we do score goals. Just a shame we don't stop them
 
Long is going to get eaten alive the next time we play a good team away, ie next week.

As for the first goal, he was out of position for the cross. He really had to stretch for it. He's a liability with men in the box.
 
Revolution said:
Long is going to get eaten alive the next time we play a good team away, ie next week.

As for the first goal, he was out of position for the cross. He really had to stretch for it. He's a liability with men in the box.
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I can't believe he's snuck back into the reckoning, and seemingly with the backing of lots of fans. Flabbergasted doesn't cover it.

The second I hear his name on the team-sheet I start thinking of the next match. It's totally and utterly depressing.

UTB
 
I just don't see the complete garbage that has been written on this thread about Long's performance. I was sat on the Westfield corner and the corner ball in for the first goal moved like buggery in the air, he did well to get as much distance on the punch as he did. To say he should have caught it is utter bollox. I've viewed the second goal a number of times and his positioning is pretty much spot on. In both cases he was beaten by very good finishes. Yes you can criticise the defence for failure to close down, mark and challenge but to blame Long is unjustified. I very much hope Long gets through this vindictive bile that some alleged supporters seem to think is appropriate way of supporting a team and that he has a successful career for the Blades, there is a good keeper in there, it is an unforgiving position to master.
 

Paulus said:
I just don't see the complete garbage that has been written on this thread about Long's performance. I was sat on the Westfield corner and the corner ball in for the first goal moved like buggery in the air, he did well to get as much distance on the punch as he did. To say he should have caught it is utter bollox. I've viewed the second goal a number of times and his positioning is pretty much spot on. In both cases he was beaten by very good finishes. Yes you can criticise the defence for failure to close down, mark and challenge but to blame Long is unjustified. I very much hope Long gets through this vindictive bile that some alleged supporters seem to think is appropriate way of supporting a team and that he has a successful career for the Blades, there is a good keeper in there, it is an unforgiving position to master.
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and because some think he isn't good enough ,an opinion shared by many on pretty conclusive evidence ,we are 'alleged supporters'?
If you think he did well on that goal we may as well not bother.
 
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