Decent Point That

[ChrisBlade]

Point of order when talking/arguing with Pete Blade. He tends to grate not necessarily because of what he says but because of how often he repeats it and due to the fact he always seems entrenched in whatever is his current flavour of the year. Some years he is among the chief "clappers" who see no wrong, other years the lever is switched and he becomes incessantly moany and downbeat. Once you accept that he will basically play the same tune in twenty or more posts a day, it becomes easier to just let him wash over your head like a gentle breeze...

 

[Bladesman]

Sounded like they were nothing special and we had some chances.

Our championship standard strike force off form tonight.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

so why do you go
fuck off back to hillsborough with your moaning never endingly miserable mates
we need supporters not manic depressives

might flirt with relegation never heard a more wednesdayite statement in here in 6 years

are you Gary Megson

Hang on, Tyler was complaining about the negativity on here. I'm a bit lost here to be honest.

By the way, I had a great day today so I'm full of positive feelings.

 

[Jehovah]

Come on Lads, we've just won a Yorkshire derby and drawn with the top of the league keeping a clean sheet. Put the cyanide down.

 

[sitwell]

Went downhill when Woolford and Scoogs came on by the sound of the commentary. Hardly heard Basham mentioned but sounded like Collins was sweeping everything up.

Be interesting to hear of commentary matched what actually happened

If that's what Edwards said its bollocks ,Woolford did well when he came on and had more attempts on goal than anyone else ,also laid one on for Sharp when he maybe should have shot ,scared of getting slagged off in my opinion. Basham had a quiet half hour ,but all the back 4 and keeper played well. Either full back MOM for me ,Freeman shading it because of Wallaces corners probably. Coutts also had a good first half. The game was very fast and tight with both teams closing down very well and cancelling each other out.

 

[Lane Ender]

If you haven't done already then try the Diurachs Own version. 16 yr aged, pure perfection.

Noted

 

[Blade58]

In the context of one game away to the top of the table, it's a good result

However, in the context of looking at the number of games played, (almost a quarter of the season gone) we are falling short of the target that should give us automatic promotion and therefore overall, disappointing.

Currently on 1.7 pts/game. Think we need somewhere around the 2 pts/game

Those 2 home defeats on the spin fked us over somewhat

 

[Lane Ender]

We know that we need strengthening that's been debated at length on here.
But only listening on the radio we created chances and could have won the game defence was solid and come away with a point at a progressive in form team.
What is the problem?
Until we make those signings let's take what we can, Adkins is doing well with the tools at his disposal
No rash or panic buys please

 

[PeteBlade]

Point of order when talking/arguing with Pete Blade. He tends to grate not necessarily because of what he says but because of how often he repeats it and due to the fact he always seems entrenched in whatever is his current flavour of the year. Some years he is among the chief "clappers" who see no wrong, other years the lever is switched and he becomes incessantly moany and downbeat. Once you accept that he will basically play the same tune in twenty or more posts a day, it becomes easier to just let him wash over your head like a gentle breeze...

So, what you're trying to say is that we dropped two points?

 

[CaptainMorgans]

There is another wider context. We've managed to keep within striking distance whilst waiting for the return of some of our really key players. And we've got a lot of the "better teams" (it really is embarrassing to be now referring to Burton, Gillingham and Bury in this way) out of the way.

Flynn has arrived back and is apparently making an expected impact, and even Coutts- though I've missed the last two games so I'll reserve judgement for now.

Brayford and Done walk into any first XI in this division and if the Hammond rumours are correct, I'd have thought the same could be said of him.

Bob Harris is capable of being the best left back in the division, but he relies slightly on having confident players around him, which is why it's a shame Collins and Howard are still around.

And we've been missing Che Adams for a few weeks.

I'm not expecting it all to come together at once, but we should be starting to move through the gears come Christmas time. If we're still within 9 points of the top spot around then I'll be fairly confident we can make the ground up.

 

[Northyorksblade]

We need to pick up more points than them still and need them to drop points as well to make up for tonight.

And we've got 36 games to do it.

 

[Northyorksblade]

In the context of one game away to the top of the table, it's a good result

However, in the context of looking at the number of games played, (almost a quarter of the season gone) we are falling short of the target that should give us automatic promotion and therefore overall, disappointing.

Currently on 1.7 pts/game. Think we need somewhere around the 2 pts/game

So we need another 3 points extra, somewhere along the line, impossible I reckon

 

[awblade]

I thought it was a pretty poor game by both teams tonight, as neither ever looked threatening to get a goal. We should have taken that by the scruff of the neck and gone for it, not wait until last minute to bring on another striker.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Hang on, Tyler was complaining about the negativity on here. I'm a bit lost here to be honest.

By the way, I had a great day today so I'm full of positive feelings.

It's ok, he got told and probably now feels like a very silly boy.

 

[Harry's Game]

Agreed.

LOL

 

[RMBlade]

I thought it was a pretty poor game by both teams tonight, as neither ever looked threatening to get a goal. We should have taken that by the scruff of the neck and gone for it, not wait until last minute to bring on another striker.

Unless I am mistaken (which is very possible), we straight swapped a ST for a ST. It just so happened the one we were taking off is our top goalscorer.

 

[awblade]

Unless I am mistaken (which is very possible), we straight swapped a ST for a ST. It just so happened the one we were taking off is our top goalscorer.

I worded it poorly, but the substitute should have been done 15-20 min before that as we were getting very little up top, and we needed some change much earlier, which was my point

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

And we've got a lot of the "better teams" (it really is embarrassing to be now referring to Burton, Gillingham and Bury in this way) out of the way.

To add to that point, we're (so far) seeing a repeat of a similar refrain from recent seasons - an inability to take sufficient points off the division's leading sides.

Performance against the top 5, so far: P.3, W.0, D.1, L.2, GF.1 GA.7, Pts.1. And, like you say, these leading sides this time are Burton, Gillingham, Bury, rather than the likes of Wolves, Bristol City, Charlton, Pigs, Udders, etc.

Certainly not wrist-slitting time; there's plenty of potential for improvement & cause for hope. But I do classify last night's result as a relatively poor one rather than a relatively good one. (Gillingham, of course, wasn't relatively poor - it was dire.) We simply need more relatively good results than we're getting (5 or 6 from 10 so far, I'd say), & we definitely need a few stunning ones (no signs yet). We're just too pedestrian as things stand.

 

[RMBlade]

I worded it poorly, but the substitute should have been done 15-20 min before that as we were getting very little up top, and we needed some change much earlier, which was my point

I didn't see/listen to the game so I don't know how much he contributed, but I would like to see our top goalscorer (unless hes having a shocker) staying on the pitch.

If we want to get McNulty on then maybe replace Sammon or a midfielder like at Bradford. As I said I wasn't at the game so cannot comment with any accuracy I would just prefer our top goalscorer to stay on the field for the full 90.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

A decent performance, Kieran Wallace man of the match again. Lost possession too often though and can we have someone take a corner who can get it past the first man!

Wallace looks like he can take a decent corner. The worst corner takers are Reed and Scougs, who seem to have the responsibility of taking them. Woody could have back-heeled a corner better than some of these lads.

 

[Revolution]

To add to that point, we're (so far) seeing a repeat of a similar refrain from recent seasons - an inability to take sufficient points off the division's leading sides.

Performance against the top 5, so far: P.3, W.0, D.1, L.2, GF.1 GA.7, Pts.1. And, like you say, these leading sides this time are Burton, Gillingham, Bury, rather than the likes of Wolves, Bristol City, Charlton, Pigs, Udders, etc.

Certainly not wrist-slitting time; there's plenty of potential for improvement & cause for hope. But I do classify last night's result as a relatively poor one rather than a relatively good one. (Gillingham, of course, wasn't relatively poor - it was dire.) We simply need more relatively good results than we're getting (5 or 6 from 10 so far, I'd say), & we definitely need a few stunning ones (no signs yet). We're just too pedestrian as things stand.

We are treading water: 5 points from 9 is okay, 5 points from 15 is not.

There is not enough in the way of goals or assists in the midfield selected last night, though I appreciate some of that was out of Adkins hands.

We need another run like we had in games 2 to 5, otherwise we will keep dropping points whilst we wait for players to get fit or (suspend your disbelief for a moment) players to come in on loan.

A clean sheet was welcome, of course. But promoted teams tend to edge games like that.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

From my vantage point I think it was a good point away at a side top of the league in a game that could have really gone either way, but I will bow to the greater knowledge of those who have listened to it on the radio

From listening on the radio it sounded like for a change the defence were okay but the forwards were misfiring a bit. I got the impression that we created more chances than them which was pleasing.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

here's my take on the point.

Burton have scored 12 goals all season - easy to see why
Burton have conceded 7 goals all season - easy to see why.

They were decidedly 2nd best most of the night and 2nd half just seemed to want to lump the ball to our left wing and aimed for that big bunch of nothing playing there.

One or two decent players - why the Dutch kid got MOM for them in midfield is beyond me - Duffy (no 21) was all over the place - nice, busy footballer.

We were as comfortable as I have seen us away from home against a team determined not to lose, but trying to win it by 1 goal.

We lacked creativity in the final third, but equally we seemed to be playing to an Adkins plan (aka Swindon away).

Young Wallace is getting better at LB with each game - once again a decent performance considering this time last year he was playing up the road in none league for Ilkeston.

Will be nice when Done can come on and make a difference - last night was crying out for someone who is just a bit different.

Just over 5K in the ground that holds 7K in total - if we sold out not sure where they would put an extra 2K - someone cheating the VAT man !! as for our crowd - just sensed we ALL wanted a bit more in the final third - Woolford, on as sub eventually had 2 shots in the last 10 minutes.

Conclusion: we look very difficult to beat away from home - very solid across midfield - need a bit more creativity, but NOT Baxter for me as he plays too deep - we need that creativity in the last third............over to you Mr Adkins.

UTB

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

A clean sheet was welcome, of course. But promoted teams tend to edge games like that.

Exactly.

Maybe not the best analogy given how the season ended up, but look at us going to Huddersfield towards the end of that first season down here in the depths of division 3 - edging a tight, pressure game by the single goal.

I suppose though, looking for positives, we grew into that points-nicking side as the season went on (the home result against Hudds earlier the same season wasn't quite so good...). The worry is that Burton, for all their qualities, can't relistically be compared with the Huddersfield side of 2010/11. We're in a diminished pool, & yet we're still doing our best to be very, very average. Thankfully though, it's far too early to be worrying (& there are genuine positives that make you think we can very much build as the season progresses - not least the manager who we've got in charge).

 

[mattbianco1]

Wow. Few pages to troll through there.

Right. Firstly, I went. Not assuming things based on what Sir Keith said.

I was genuinely surprised at how good Burton were. I thought they would fizzle off and were still riding the wave from last season, however, after seeing them last night I wouldn't be surprised if they finish in the top 6. Two pacy wingers. Duffy (ex Scunthorpe) looked a handful as ever - didn't realise he was there. Their #11 El Khatari *spelling?!? Was excellent. Their stadium announcer gave him the m.o.m and I would agree. He looked fantastic.

Onto us.
We never really got into a stride. It looked like a Clough team attacking. Little invention and no end product. Players scared to shoot from 20yrds. I remember Woolford hitting 2 from distance but other than that ??
Corners need improvement. We must've had 10. It was only Woolford that beat the first man. Scougall, Reed, Wallace all took corners and they were all swept away at the near post.
We had a few half chances. Edgar hit the post with a back heel. Sharp had one tipped over from a tight angle and he also took a touch we he found himself one on one about 8yrds out. A first time attempt could've wrong footed the GK.

On a different night we could've won 3-0. But so could they.

Overall - decent point. Frustrating, but decent.

 

[judge]

It sounded fairly even in the end, and given they're top of the league and obviously on form, a good away point and a clean sheet.

They will sing songs on the kop a hundred years from now about the day we drew at the pirelli

 

[HighfieldBlade]

are you Gary Megson

I resemble that remark!

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

A decent performance, Kieran Wallace man of the match again. Lost possession too often though and can we have someone take a corner who can get it past the first man!

Or even past the first blade of grass.

I'm liking how Kieran Wallace is developing actually - potentially a decent player IMHO

 

[blade too long]

Hang on, Tyler was complaining about the negativity on here. I'm a bit lost here to be honest.

By the way, I had a great day today so I'm full of positive feelings.

wasnt aimed at Tyler but the opening thread ,

 

[blade too long]

We are treading water: 5 points from 9 is okay, 5 points from 15 is not..

well we lost 2 games , thats been a green light to make all our current form look gash
its going be a few games from now till the points per game improves
but at least its making the I told you so brigade from getting depressed
they are in their element with these negative 2 points lost remarks

Fortunately I tend not to be such a morose sad excuse of a human being and will see the positives
unbeaten in 3
unbeaten away since opening day
players coming back
defence tightening up
within striking distance of the top 2 , well a lot nearer than the flirting with relegation garbage some are wishing on us to keep themselves happy