CONFIRMED Nigel Adkins is announced as new Sheffield United Manager

[Jonboy60]

Ah right. Guess I came across like a two hat then....

Far as I'm concerned no blade is a two hat stringjunior.

 

[Blade56]

Back on topic according to Sky we've made another approach for Parkison so it might not be Adkins unless it's as DoF

 

[BushBlade]

Not at all. Who needs passing?

The game should consist of 90 minutes of 50/50 challenges, with each team required to surrender the ball immediately after taking possession. The match would start by way of an additional official, known as the ball-chucker, who would throw the ball (as high as he can) in the air whereupon the biggest, most powerful brick-shithouses in the respective teams have to fight to the death. The winner obtains....possession of the ball, which he is required to surrender immediately. An additional official, known as the ball-chucker, would then....

Goals can only be scored by chance, during a "fight to the death" phase. After a goal, an additional official known as...

The game ends when the last player remains alive, whereupon an additional official....

I think they call it Aussie Rules.

 

[Barney]

Back on topic according to Sky we've made another approach for Parkison so it might not be Adkins unless it's as DoF

Have you got link for that pls B56

 

[him behind you]

Getting boringly back to the manager debate, this next appointment is the point where the board make a statement about the club. The names being banded around, admittedly mainly by fans and the press, range from quite exciting to not so. Appoint someone like Adkins, Robinson, or even Warburton would IMHO be a statement of intent that the board have done a real selling job and pushed the boat out to make the most of the relatively new ownership and his ambition. Whereas the appointment of a usual run of the mill manager such as Parkinson or Billy Davies says that nothing has changed at all and would be a hmm moment for me. Let's hope it's the former but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[him behind you]

Back on topic according to Sky we've made another approach for Parkison so it might not be Adkins unless it's as DoF

Why effin Parkinson

 

[BushBlade]

I'm with you on that, Silent .... but on the basis that the decision to play a short pass, forwards, backwards or sideways, a long pass, a hoof to a channel or launch it to a giant centre-forward is made by a good quality player based on momentary circumstance in a game, not based on a pre-determined instruction meted out prior to the season starting that will get you dropped if you don't repeat it for 90 minutes.

(and a long pass isn't the same as a hoof or a "launch").

I've probably prattled about this before, but the John Beck style was to carry out a specific set of instructions regardless of circumstance. He had a player from Handsworth and Brook School, as a full-back (who could play a bit further forward too). Handsworth-lad told us over a shandy or two in the Old Crown once of Beck's tactical talks -

To paraphrase:

John Beck: "You're on edge of box, with a clear shot on goal, and I know you can shoot a bit....what do you do?"
Handsworth-lad: "I'll have a pop, see if i can score"
JB: "Do that and I'll bring you off, and you won't play for me for another 3 months. What you do is this - always - knock it wide to the winger and let him put the ball over for donkey there in the middle. It's his job to score, yours is to deliver the ball to wingers, (after you've finished getting too far forward)".
HL: "But what if the wingers not there, boss?"
JB: "Then I'll bring him off, and he won't player for me for another 3 months...... but that won't happen cos he knows his job"

Apparently he fined Claridge for scoring because he was on the wing and should have crossed it.

 

[dingledog]

It is a pivotal moment for this great club. If the board don't come anywhere near the ambition of the supporters I can only see attendances plummeting. I have to say if it were Parkinson or Davis I would be completely underwhelmed.

 

[baggie192]

That post was a joke.

You'll notice the the names of everybody mentioned are misspelt.

Ahh... was being glib and bragging anyway Seriously though Adkins maybe still be on Gardening Leave so would cost Compensation. A Reading fan told it was 18 month's when they asked about Clarke. So he maybe too expensive

 

[Bergen Blade]

Arsenal have played compellingly delightful football under Wenger. The Bergkamp/Henry/Vieira Invincibles were everything a football team should be and a model we should aspire to. We can't replicate it (not good enough) but we can nod in the right direction.

That team had Gilberto Silva playing holding midfield.

 

[gavtheblade]

If it's parkinson or Davis,that's me done with em.
A massive step backwards for all involved.
Even to be considered is embarrassing.
Don't let the fans down please, we want a summer of uplift, not back stepping
I feel season tickets will be returned if parkinson gets the job.

 

[Barney]

If it's parkinson or Davis,that's me done with em.
A massive step backwards for all involved.
Even to be considered is embarrassing.
Don't let the fans down please, we want a summer of uplift, not back stepping
I feel season tickets will be returned if parkinson gets the job.

I hate to make you feel worse gav but have you seen this?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9867566/bradford-keen-to-keep-parkinson

honestly can't help but believe it, valid source and valid quotes.

 

[Blade56]

Have you got link for that pls B56

No, just caught a snippet when I switched on. Will try and find confirmation.

Someone on BM reporting same
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110002005#S80Eiy9bCksUope5.97

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Getting boringly back to the manager debate, this next appointment is the point where the board make a statement about the club. The names being banded around, admittedly mainly by fans and the press, range from quite exciting to not so. Appoint someone like Adkins, Robinson, or even Warburton would IMHO be a statement of intent that the board have done a real selling job and pushed the boat out to make the most of the relatively new ownership and his ambition. Whereas the appointment of a usual run of the mill manager such as Parkinson or Billy Davies says that nothing has changed at all and would be a hmm moment for me. Let's hope it's the former but I'm not holding my breath.

Just very glad Dean Saunders has already gone to Chesterfield.

UTB

 

[ziggy4001]

change thread title to Parkinson now favourite?

 

[Dec]

change thread title to Parkinson now favourite?

even though he isn't??

 

[ZoneManWilf]

change thread title to Parkinson now favourite?

He isn't

http://www.skybet.com/football/specials/manager-specials

 

[ziggy4001]

He might not be according to the bookies but let's be realistic. Not gonna happen.

 

[yuley82]

You'll be eaten alive on here if you are just guessing and hoping in order to massage your ego.

Spill the beans, how come you know and the whole press world, it's etc don't?

Haha I know what you mean, I just put it to massage people's lips get the chins wagging a bit more as I was bored of reading the threads that are basically all the same. Any hoot it will be next week's tomorrow

 

[Silent Blade]

I'm with you on that, Silent .... but on the basis that the decision to play a short pass, forwards, backwards or sideways, a long pass, a hoof to a channel or launch it to a giant centre-forward is made by a good quality player based on momentary circumstance in a game, not based on a pre-determined instruction meted out prior to the season starting that will get you dropped if you don't repeat it for 90 minutes.

(and a long pass isn't the same as a hoof or a "launch").

I've probably prattled about this before, but the John Beck style was to carry out a specific set of instructions regardless of circumstance. He had a player from Handsworth and Brook School, as a full-back (who could play a bit further forward too). Handsworth-lad told us over a shandy or two in the Old Crown once of Beck's tactical talks -

To paraphrase:

John Beck: "You're on edge of box, with a clear shot on goal, and I know you can shoot a bit....what do you do?"
Handsworth-lad: "I'll have a pop, see if i can score"
JB: "Do that and I'll bring you off, and you won't play for me for another 3 months. What you do is this - always - knock it wide to the winger and let him put the ball over for donkey there in the middle. It's his job to score, yours is to deliver the ball to wingers, (after you've finished getting too far forward)".
HL: "But what if the wingers not there, boss?"
JB: "Then I'll bring him off, and he won't player for me for another 3 months...... but that won't happen cos he knows his job"

I dont like coaches or managers who tell their players to stick to the managers instructions/rules all the time rather than allow the players to use their own common sense. There were some "rules" during Bassett's time with us that irritated me such as
1. The players must allow the ball to roll out of play for a throw-in even if he had time and space to use his feet to create some play
2. Keepers were told to kick upfield every time even if there was a chance to throw the ball to a flank player who have time and space to create something
3. I can understand the efficiency of keepers rolling the ball out of the box so that their lower trajectory kicking would be easier to flick headers but there were times when our keeper collects the ball cleanly and has the chance to quickly release the ball which can offer us a good counter-attacking chance but Bassett doesnt allow this and wants the keeper to wait for everyone in their positions upfield, the defence line to go to a higher line allowing the keeper to have space and time to roll the ball out of the box.

There were some more Bassett's rules which were quite efficient but I prefer our players to "use" their brains rather than be like "robots" sticking to the instructions/rules all the time which is why I loved Harris' way of allowing his players to express themselves

 

[Silent Blade]

No, just caught a snippet when I switched on. Will try and find confirmation.

Someone on BM reporting same
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110002005#S80Eiy9bCksUope5.97

These irritating pop up adverts!! Grrrr!!

 

[ZoneManWilf]

I dont like coaches or managers who tell their players to stick to the managers instructions/rules all the time rather than allow the players to use their own common sense. There were some "rules" during Bassett's time with us that irritated me such as
1. The players must allow the ball to roll out of play for a throw-in even if he had time and space to use his feet to create some play
2. Keepers were told to kick upfield every time even if there was a chance to throw the ball to a flank player who have time and space to create something
3. I can understand the efficiency of keepers rolling the ball out of the box so that their lower trajectory kicking would be easier to flick headers but there were times when our keeper collects the ball cleanly and has the chance to quickly release the ball which can offer us a good counter-attacking chance but Bassett doesnt allow this and wants the keeper to wait for everyone in their positions upfield, the defence line to go to a higher line allowing the keeper to have space and time to roll the ball out of the box.

There were some more Bassett's rules which were quite efficient but I prefer our players to "use" their brains rather than be like "robots" sticking to the instructions/rules all the time which is why I loved Harris' way of allowing his players to express themselves

Even that's not really totally true though. There was plenty of flexibility under Bassett, especially later on.

First 2 goals in one of Bassett's best ever wins were from Tracey passing and throwing the ball out.

 

[Silent Blade]

Even that's not really totally true though. There was plenty of flexibility under Bassett, especially later on.

First 2 goals in one of Bassett's best ever wins were from Tracey passing and throwing the ball out.

That was rare during Bassett's years. He probably knew Trevor Francis would be telling his players not to bother watching our full backs when Tracey has the ball in his hands!

 

[Pinchy]

I'm with you on that, Silent .... but on the basis that the decision to play a short pass, forwards, backwards or sideways, a long pass, a hoof to a channel or launch it to a giant centre-forward is made by a good quality player based on momentary circumstance in a game, not based on a pre-determined instruction meted out prior to the season starting that will get you dropped if you don't repeat it for 90 minutes.

(and a long pass isn't the same as a hoof or a launch").

Halle - fucking - luya!!!

Someone who gets it. This is the greatest day of my life. My cup runneth over! You have encapsulated what I have been trying to say, in my clumsy, ineffective way, for a thousand years (forgive delirium-induced exaggeration). I hereby bequeath you all my 3,917 likes. Take good care of them and use them wisely in the name of justice and peace.

The gloom of despair lifts.....

[I might get 5/10 for this one....]

 

[Pinchy]

That was rare during Bassett's years. He probably knew Trevor Francis would be telling his players not to bother watching our full backs when Tracey has the ball in his hands!

Absolutely. Nice try Wilf, but not remotely representative of the Bassett years. Anyone who wants to know his real philosophy need only watch the BT "Crazy Gang" documentary. He Hoof. Plain and simple. Let's put the Phiosopher's Stone away on this one!

 

[Pinchy]

That team had Gilberto Silva playing holding midfield.

Gilberto could play football. He didn't do half a job.

 

[Silent Blade]

Absolutely. Nice try Wilf, but not remotely representative of the Bassett years. Anyone who wants to know his real philosophy need only watch the BT "Crazy Gang" documentary. He Hoof. Plain and simple. Let's put the Phiosopher's Stone away on this one!

But I am not keen on our defence playing square passes when the opposition's forwards are pressing high. This sort of thing gives me palpitations!

 

[Pinchy]

Apparently he fined Claridge for scoring because he was on the wing and should have crossed it.

I can think of many reasons for doing a lot worse to Claridge!....

 

[Pinchy]

But I am not keen on our defence playing square passes when the opposition's forwards are pressing high. This sort of thing gives me palpitations!

No-one will believe this but neither am I. If, on the other hand, you have defenders of real quality (relative to their level, of course), it can be a very good way of creating time and space for others to do damage further up the pitch.

 

[Bladesman]