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This may be one for the likes of Darren and Silent Blade...

Can anyone help me with the dates that our stands re-built? I can find the years but I'm really struggling with dates. Here's what I have so far, which may not even be accurate...

Kop - Built: 30/04/1855 Re-built ??/??/1897
Kop/JS Corner - Built ??/??/2001
John Street - Built: 30/04/1855 Re-Built: ??/??/1896 & ??/??/1996
South Stand - Built: ??/??/1975
Bramall Lane End - Built: 30/04/1855 Re-Built ??/??/1966
Westfield Corner - Built ??/??/2006

Literally any help at all would be greatly needed!
 



DazBlade88 said:
This may be one for the likes of Darren and Silent Blade...

Can anyone help me with the dates that our stands re-built? I can find the years but I'm really struggling with dates. Here's what I have so far, which may not even be accurate...

Kop - Built: 30/04/1855 Re-built ??/??/1897
Kop/JS Corner - Built ??/??/2001
John Street - Built: 30/04/1855 Re-Built: ??/??/1896 & ??/??/1996
South Stand - Built: ??/??/1975
Bramall Lane End - Built: 30/04/1855 Re-Built ??/??/1966
Westfield Corner - Built ??/??/2006

Literally any help at all would be greatly needed!
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Shoreham Street cover (Shorehanm Street was a stand then) was wrecked in a gale in 1903 and then removed. In 1912 The Shoreham Street mound was raised and improved to become a regular Spion Kop. Railings around the playing area was completed

Kop /JS Corner was ready for start of 2001/01 season, I think

John Street stand was re-built in 1895 and then re-built again by Archibald Leitch in 1901. The present stand was used for the first time against Tranmere on Oct 12th 1996

South Stand was ready for use at the start of the 1975/76 season (not sure if it was open for the pre-season match against Blackburn) v Derby on 16th August 1975

BLUT was used for the first time against Sunderland on October 15th 1966

assume Westfield corner was used for the first time against Liverpool in August 2006
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
The structural engineer who has never watched a live game of football in his life .

UTB
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"canti-fucking-lever? Piss off, I've got a deal on some 28" dia piles and it comes with a golf membership, none of which I'm going to be missing out on just so some whinging pricks get a nice view."
 
Since the building of the South Stand in '75 we've had the worst periods in our history.
(No smart comments about womens needs etc)
 
SwissBlade said:
"canti-fucking-lever? Piss off, I've got a deal on some 28" dia piles and it comes with a golf membership, none of which I'm going to be missing out on just so some whinging pricks get a nice view."
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More likely a client led QS value engineering exercise.
 



not sure of the dates, Silent but the sequence that I remember is more like -

Kop re-built with seats and extra bigger posts to allow stalwart fans to hide from some of the action. (last day of the standing kop was when we played Norwich in the Premier league? so the new stand opened the season after that)

John Street Stand demolished and lies empty for a couple of years (Don Hutchison v Villa in FA Cup, year of Flying Diamonds)

John Street Stand rebuilt

Corner between the Kop and John Street - filled in, its architects having forgotten that when you buy a ticket for a seat you expect to be able to see at least half the pitch.

and the little office block between John Street and Bramall Lane built at around the same time.


but like I say, its from memory.
 
Daz, if you look at this clip,

it suggests a couple of dates and shows the seated stand on the Shoreham Street end that was eventually replaced by a mound of earth, and became the standing room only Kop. I think I'm right in saying that after the first Ibrox disaster which was caused by the collapse of a standing terrace made as a timber lattice with wooden steps, the solid mound of earth was adopted as a safer way of accommodating tightly packed standing supporters.
 
1990/1991 Sat 11 May Sheff. Utd. 2 - 1 Norwich City last day of standing room on the Kop?? they had already removed the roof the previous week (I think)

28 Jan 1996 Sheffield United v Aston Villa W 0-1 FA Cup (snowing, SUFC players sure the match would be called off went out on the piss the (Sat.) night before. But a load of fans turned up to shovel the snow off the pitch and the televised fixture was played (DOH!) Hutchinson apparently taken off in the first half so he could visit the loo (allegedly!)

now I think there was NO John Street Stand for this fixture, I think the camera was mounted on some scaffolding on the John Street side of the ground to spare the club's embarrassment for a TV audience.

Corner between the Kop and John Street - building work winter 2000, 2001



enough clues?
 
Lane Ender said:
All the ground is a architectural disaster.
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I wouldn't say the ground is a Architectural disaster , ( it wouldn't win any awards) , but it is evident that they were no master plan for overall phased ground development . Each part of the stands within the ground have had a cost saving exercise carried out due to tenders being over budget . This has happened over the last 25 years or so .

The most noticeable IMO is the kop . Toilet facilities in every part of the ground are also poor , and who ever designed them , did it to minimum building regulations without the thought that thousands go for a piss , usually at the same time. Planning restrictions also dictate massing and the overall height you can go to.

The Bramall lane stand was the type of construction that was in vogue and cost effective at the time .

South Stand was done on the cheap , with no thought at the time that boxes could have been installed at the back , to bring in additional revenue.

The kop to me is a disaster , and we got what we paid for.

The John Street stand has had some thought put into it , and we have Reg Brealey to thank.

The fill in corners are a mis mash or a after thought.

Overall when you look at it , BDTBL is a traditional football ground , like West Ham , Burnley , Norwich , Blackburn.

S6 neighbours have been lucky , as they have been subsidised by the council , FA and FIFA for cup semi finals , World Cup etc . S6 is looking worn and tired due to lack of investment.

The only way to really update a football ground , is to relocate and sell off your plot of land as real estate . A feasibility study was carried out for doing exactly this , and SUFC moving to Don Valley.

To relocate is more cost effective with building a complete new stadium , than spending money on trying to refurbish the existing ground.

I do like Bramall lane , more for the fact it has soul , memories and for me a spiritual home.

UTB
 
"The John Street stand has had some thought put into it , and we have Reg Brealey to thank."


uh uh - MacDonald perhaps not Brealey, he was long gone. Though its building went ahead because apparently United couldn't pull out of a contract that had been signed by Derek Dooley I think.

I think its a cut price load of seats.
 
vorpal blade said:
"The John Street stand has had some thought put into it , and we have Reg Brealey to thank."


uh uh - MacDonald perhaps not Brealey, he was long gone. Though its building went ahead because apparently United couldn't pull out of a contract that had been signed by Derek Dooley I think.

I think its a cut price load of seats.
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Vorpal , apologies . May have been McDonald , ( thought it was Brealey ) . I think the contracts were signed by SUFC and GMI Construction . The guy who actually helped smoothing the waters was Kevin McCabe , and Scarborough Holdings.

UTB
 
No, Bos man, I think I may be I who should apologise - I just looked up Brealey's dates and I think you may be right about it.

I thought Brealey was long gone by MacDonald's time but what I read suggests MacD. bought the club from Brearley.

So its quite likely Brealey signed the job off. - I agree that Kevin had to make the best of a bad job.


Sorry
 
That's right, we had been quite a while without a stand and without any sign of one being built at all...
I still believe the only reason McDonald took the job as our Chairman was because he owned a construction company.....
Could be wrong here but I believe the John street stand was demolished after the Bradford fire when all wooden stands were banned...
 
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I do like Bramall lane , more for the fact it has soul , memories and for me a spiritual home.

UTB[/QUOTE]
Im not complaining it just the way it looks but its still a whole lot better than the Sty which needs major surgery.
The Kop is a fucking eye sore from the road side(Shoreham St)
 
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