So where do we go from here?

[forza sampdoria]

I think for most (apart from the deluded) the penny has dropped that the so called investment is just an extension of the McCabe strategy to sell everything that is not nailed down, and not to procure any signings that are not free or loans. I have exchange some recent emails with Jim Phipps and it is quite apparent that he is just a spin doctor from the club. He never actually says anything but just comes out with the same versed spiel time and time again. I had hoped the Partnership would be a more positive influence on McCabe, but it does not appears to be the case.

It did get me thinking however that the big deal made at the time of the 'Game Changing Investment' and the more recent 125 year celebrations (funny how almost nothing was done much at 100 years?) was an attempt to draw some attention to the club, possibly with a view to selling it on if we do get to the Championship. No one would pay anything for a 3rd tier club, but they may take a punt if in the Championship. I think that is the real incentive for the link up with the Prince is to look at selling the club on in the near future, maybe to a non UK bidder?

It sure is not investment that is for sure, as it appears we have no money whatsoever or indeed any desire for making any actually signings which may cost a small amount of money, the club has set its stall out on that front. The chasing of Hull City and begging (yes they did beg and cut the asking price) when they pulled out for Mcquire seems the club is desperate for cash, or to take cash out!

So where does that leave us if we do not get to the Championship, which is looking extremely doubtful? We could be stuck in this situation for quite some time with McCabe not being be in a position to sell the club on. I think McCabe had hoped we would find our feet and manage somehow to stumble into the Championship after 4 consequence years. If not the next few years may be very troubling indeed, with the club resources / revenues ever decreasing and no buyer on the horizon for McCabe to exit.

Troubling times indeed.

 

[Ted Danson]

What do you base that on then, have you seen the accounts?

Are we still 50Mil in debt like we were before the Prince came?

 

[Pedro Verde]

I think for most (apart from the deluded) the penny has dropped that the so called investment is just an extension of the McCabe strategy to sell everything that is not nailed down, and not to procure any signings that are not free or loans. I have exchange some recent emails with Jim Phipps and it is quite apparent that he is just a spin doctor from the club. He never actually says anything but just comes out with the same versed spiel time and time again. I had hoped the Partnership would be a more positive influence on McCabe, but it does not appears to be the case.

It did get me thinking however that the big deal made at the time of the 'Game Changing Investment' and the more recent 125 year celebrations (funny how almost nothing was done much at 100 years?) was an attempt to draw some attention to the club, possibly with a view to selling it on if we do get to the Championship. No one would pay anything for a 3rd tier club, but they may take a punt if in the Championship. I think that is the real incentive for the link up with the Prince is to look at selling the club on in the near future, maybe to a non UK bidder?

It sure is not investment that is for sure, as it appears we have no money whatsoever or indeed any desire for making any actually signings which may cost a small amount of money, the club has set its stall out on that front. The chasing of Hull City and begging (yes they did beg and cut the asking price) when they pulled out for Mcquire seems the club is desperate for cash, or to take cash out!

So where does that leave us if we do not get to the Championship, which is looking extremely doubtful? We could be stuck in this situation for quite some time with McCabe not being be in a position to sell the club on. I think McCabe had hoped we would find our feet and manage somehow to stumble into the Championship after 4 consequence years. If not the next few years may be very troubling indeed, with the club resources / revenues ever decreasing and no buyer on the horizon for McCabe to exit.

Troubling times indeed.

Dont worry Cheds back Monday

 

[forza sampdoria]

What do you base that on then, have you seen the accounts?

Are we still 50Mil in debt like we were before the Prince came?

Any clearing of any debts had nothing to do with the Prince. And also there were not real debts in the true sense of the word, there were SUFC debts owed to McCabe's other companies. Not sure how McCabe dealt with these issues but certainly had nothing to do with the Prince in any way.

 

[forza sampdoria]

Dont worry Cheds back Monday

Then he will need to be cheep!

 

[Pedro Verde]

Then he will need to be cheep!

Hes done bird so he will probably be chirpy chirpy cheep cheep

 

[sitwell]

Hes done a bird so he will probably be chirpy chirpy cheep cheep

Slight addition.

 

[S5Blade]

Is the answer 74?

 

[Esablade]

I think I'm still with the deluded then..interesting post btw.

My question would be why?
What would be the point of the Prince buying a club only to sell in the Championdhip?

Obviously there has to be progress but I do think the Prince is in it for the long run...perhaps I'm wrong..?

Either way, with McCabe's debts cleared that's s great big difference.

Re:Hull/Harry.

Maybe we did go back and chase them, but they overpaid for young UK talent, as we're now seeing.
Great player in L1, maybe Champ but not 'premiere league'..yet!

£2 million quid? Yes please.

UTB!

 

[sitwell]

Down to the lake I fear

 

[blade too long]

yet another thread based on the ridiculous premise we are unwilling to spend , we had targets that clubs failed to release , nothing more no less

frustrating as it is to you its frustrating for everyone , but continually starting half arsed slagging threads every day why not try supporting the club ,,, just for a change of tack

its not possible to buy anyone till january , thought Id mention it as you seem unaware of this fact

 

[Bladesway]

yet another thread based on the ridiculous premise we are unwilling to spend , we had targets that clubs failed to release , nothing more no less

frustrating as it is to you its frustrating for everyone , but continually starting half arsed slagging threads every day why not try supporting the club ,,, just for a change of tack

its not possible to buy anyone till january , thought Id mention it as you seem unaware of this fact

No you are right everything's great.

 

[Wapping Blade]

Down to the lake I fear

ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay
ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay

 

[finlaytheblade]

I think for most (apart from the deluded) the penny has dropped that the so called investment is just an extension of the McCabe strategy to sell everything that is not nailed down, and not to procure any signings that are not free or loans. I have exchange some recent emails with Jim Phipps and it is quite apparent that he is just a spin doctor from the club. He never actually says anything but just comes out with the same versed spiel time and time again. I had hoped the Partnership would be a more positive influence on McCabe, but it does not appears to be the case.

It did get me thinking however that the big deal made at the time of the 'Game Changing Investment' and the more recent 125 year celebrations (funny how almost nothing was done much at 100 years?) was an attempt to draw some attention to the club, possibly with a view to selling it on if we do get to the Championship. No one would pay anything for a 3rd tier club, but they may take a punt if in the Championship. I think that is the real incentive for the link up with the Prince is to look at selling the club on in the near future, maybe to a non UK bidder?

It sure is not investment that is for sure, as it appears we have no money whatsoever or indeed any desire for making any actually signings which may cost a small amount of money, the club has set its stall out on that front. The chasing of Hull City and begging (yes they did beg and cut the asking price) when they pulled out for Mcquire seems the club is desperate for cash, or to take cash out!

So where does that leave us if we do not get to the Championship, which is looking extremely doubtful? We could be stuck in this situation for quite some time with McCabe not being be in a position to sell the club on. I think McCabe had hoped we would find our feet and manage somehow to stumble into the Championship after 4 consequence years. If not the next few years may be very troubling indeed, with the club resources / revenues ever decreasing and no buyer on the horizon for McCabe to exit.

Troubling times indeed.

weve enough negative posters on here without you joining them

 

[Nick Jansky]

ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay
ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay

Fantastic daaaaaaaay

 

[Trafford]

weve enough negative posters on here without you joining them

Not least from members who only joined 4 days ago and seem intent on stirring up unrest.....

 

[forza sampdoria]

yet another thread based on the ridiculous premise we are unwilling to spend , we had targets that clubs failed to release , nothing more no less
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Leave it out......this cannot be the case every time can it? You would have to be some mug to believe that load of cobblers. The club has set its stall out in this respect which is quite clear.

My post is actually in respect to the premise that the tie up with the Prince may be more of a relationship of convenience for which we may not be aware of the of the greater significance, something that was called to asset stripping in the 80's , but is now deemed to be called investment, where key assets are taken first of all and the core business activity is then sold on....if indeed the core business is an attractive proposition, which we would need to reach at least the championship to realize. If we do not then I see us being in limbo for quite some time.

 

[forza sampdoria]

Not least from members who only joined 4 days ago and seem intent on stirring up unrest.....

I suggest you read my post again. Not sure what the significance of registering on here only 4 days ago is...do you have a point? I would bet pound to a penny I have been to more games than most on here the last 40 odd years. Perhaps what i do lack though is the rose coloured specs.

 

[blade too long]

No you are right everything's great.

I didnt say everythings great conversly not everythings shite, we are in the top 10 game in hand and own all our own players, apart from mccarthy ,We have a predominately young side that will improve

 

[bladesmanluke]

I think I'm still with the deluded then..interesting post btw.

My question would be why?
What would be the point of the Prince buying a club only to sell in the Championdhip?

Obviously there has to be progress but I do think the Prince is in it for the long run...perhaps I'm wrong..?

Either way, with McCabe's debts cleared that's s great big difference.

Re:Hull/Harry.

Maybe we did go back and chase them, but they overpaid for young UK talent, as we're now seeing.
Great player in L1, maybe Champ but not 'premiere league'..yet!

£2 million quid? Yes please.

UTB!

Are you being serious?

If we still had Harry in this back 4 now we'd of conceded about half the goals we have done and would currently be sat second in the league looking forward to returning to the championship. 2 million quid is nothing. Absolutely nothing

 

[forza sampdoria]

Are you being serious?

2 million quid is nothing. Absolutely nothing

Especially when do you not see anything for the Money...it is not like it has benefited us in any way selling him has it?

 

[wizadry]

As much as i wanted the most we could get for Harry,i think £2 million was about right for him,the fact of the matter is though we should have only sold him if it was going to benefit the team but it certainly did not.I like the look of McGahey though and just as he was getting better he gets dropped or rested as Cloughy put it,which was baffling to say the least.All is not lost though,we still have a football club to support

 

[Pierre's PC]

I suggest you read my post again. Not sure what the significance of registering on here only 4 days ago is...do you have a point? I would bet pound to a penny I have been to more games than most on here the last 40 odd years. Perhaps what i do lack though is the rose coloured specs.

Massive blade alert!!

Whether you have been to 1 game or 1m doesn't make your point more valid than anyone else's.

You may or may not have a good point but keep the bigger blade bollocks out of it.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I suggest you read my post again. Not sure what the significance of registering on here only 4 days ago is...do you have a point? I would bet pound to a penny I have been to more games than most on here the last 40 odd years. Perhaps what i do lack though is the rose coloured specs.

You may very well have been to more games during your 40 years, which makes you about same as me.

Problem is you ARE a new member - do you not think it is extremely suspicious with all the crap surrounding CE that there are one or two a tad interested in motives.

Perhaps you may want to earn some respect - yes I know it's the "R" word - before going on the offensive.

Convince the forum - your OP verges on a troll post. Just an honest opinion.

UTB

 

[Esablade]

You're forgetting one very important fact.

Harry wanted to go. When it looked like we weren't going to sell, Harry forced the issue.

How "serious" is that?

 

[wizadry]

You're forgetting one very important fact.

Harry wanted to go. When it looked like we weren't going to sell, Harry forced the issue.

How "serious" is that?

I take your point but i completely disagree,no footballer should be able to force through any move,it was bad management from top to bottom of the whole scenario.He should have been made to see his contract out and if he sulked and didn't perform,he wouldn't have got the move he wanted at the end of this season.No bollocks from our lot springs to mind.

And what has seriousness got to do with it ?

 

[Esablade]

I take your point but i completely disagree,no footballer should be able to force through any move,it was bad management from top to bottom of the whole scenario.He should have been made to see his contract out and if he sulked and didn't perform,he wouldn't have got the move he wanted at the end of this season.No bollocks from our lot springs to mind.

And what has seriousness got to do with it ?

Sorry meant be reply to bladesmadluke reply..



No footballer 'should' be able to force these issues but the reality is they do, time and time again.
I know we could have shoved him in the U21's or something till he cheared up but sometimes you just have to be pragmatic I guess.

I think we tried to keep him, even at 2-2.5 millions...from what I've been told Harry wanted off before last season and was convinced to stay one more year...which paid off for the club financially.

The money is supposedly Clough's.
1million now, 1 million next year when it comes through.

That's my take on it anyhow...

 

[wizadry]

Sorry, was meant to be in reply to 'are you serious' reply to my post.

No footballer 'should' be able to force these issues but the reality is they do, time and time again.
I know we could have shoved him in the U21's or something till he cheated up but sometimes you just have to be pragmatic I guess.

I think we tried to keep him, even at 2-2.5 millions...from what I've been told Harry wanted off before last season and was convinced to stay one more year...which paid off for the club financially.

The money is supposedly Clough's.
1million now, 1 million next year when it comes through.

That's my take on it anyhow...

Wires crossed

Yes,footballers do push moves through but that's all down to the club,to keep him at the club,like i said they don't have enough bollocks and as soon as pound signs come knocking,boom,they're straight in there.

I also don't really think that we tried to keep him hard enough imo.

And we'll see if Clough gets any of that money in January if or when needed.That together with the money we get from the player we sell in January

 

[Trafford]

I suggest you read my post again. Not sure what the significance of registering on here only 4 days ago is...do you have a point? .

Fulwood Blade has already provided a good reply (thank you) but I've taken your feedback on board and read your post again. Cutting out the "filler", I read: -

"so called" investment; sell everything that is not nailed down; not procure any signings that are not free or loans; Jim Phipps is just a spin doctor from the club; the big deal...was an attempt to draw some attention to the club, possibly with a view to selling it; I think that is the real incentive for the link up with the Prince is to look at selling the club on in the near future, maybe to a non UK bidder; the club is desperate for cash; where does that leave us if we do not get to the Championship, which is looking extremely doubtful; the next few years may be very troubling indeed, with the club resources / revenues ever decreasing and no buyer on the horizon for McCabe to exit"

You say that you have been to more games than most in the last 40 years (I've been a season ticket holder for 36 years, so I'm probably in the "most" category) but it's hard to understand why - you don't seem to have any affinity with our club? Don't get me wrong, I get as frustrated as the next man but I can't help loving and supporting the Blades, come what may - your comments suggest otherwise and caused me to question whether you were a genuine Blade. Or to put it another way, I still love my childhood sweetheart, you seem to hate her....

 

[Sheff de party]

Are you being serious?

If we still had Harry in this back 4 now we'd of conceded about half the goals we have done and would currently be sat second in the league looking forward to returning to the championship. 2 million quid is nothing. Absolutely nothing

Why do you say "we'd of" when it's clearly "we'd have." Just because "'ve", like in "could've", sounds like "of" doesn't mean you need to abandon all grammatical sense and put "of" in there. Of is not a verb.

Sorry, pet hate