Wilder OUT - megathread

[Hillsboro Blade]

I’m a bit fed up of seeing his gurning fizz hog during games and in his post match interviews. Talk about familiarity breeding contempt. Can you imagine the season ticket pitch for next season after we just about escape relegation this season? With him in charge again? Just go, for Gods sake just go.

 

[The Vicar]

Lads response - get this faux player out of our club and get a winger that can actually beat a man and send in meaningful crosses.

Having watched all the goals today from the championship around 80% came from balls into the box from either side, some were converted straight away and others had numerous touches before being scored. Whilst we are unable to get balls into the box from wingers etc we will continue to struggle.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Lads response - get this faux player out of our club and get a winger that can actually beat a man and send in meaningful crosses.

He does it once a game, that’s clearly enough to keep the manager happy.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Having watched all the goals today from the championship around 80% came from balls into the box from either side, some were converted straight away and others had numerous touches before being scored. Whilst we are unable to get balls into the box from wingers etc we will continue to struggle.

Yet at the other end we have 2 full backs that are incapable of stopping crosses. Recipe for success that.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

My main qualm with the latest Wilder era and it's frustrating as fuck, is that we aren't using this time wisely.

I know we don't have a given right to be competing at the top end of the division year on year, but we should be using this time to modernise the infrastructure and staffing hierarchy of the club so that isn't entirely reliant on one man and a small scale operation.

There are absolutely naff all signs of this planning taking place. Until we do this, the next man will ultimately fail.

 

[ben1987]

My main qualm with the latest Wilder era and it's frustrating as fuck, is that we aren't using this time wisely.

I know we don't have a given right to be competing at the top end of the division year on year, but we should be using this time to modernise the infrastructure and staffing hierarchy of the club so that isn't entirely reliant on one man and a small scale operation.

There are absolutely naff all signs of this planning taking place. Until we do this, the next man will ultimately fail.

The longer it drags on the further behind we’ll fall

These other clubs are investing heavily in scouting, infrastructure and ai while we’re hoping Shackleton and Doherty are fit soon

 

[SUFCinks]

My main qualm with the latest Wilder era and it's frustrating as fuck, is that we aren't using this time wisely.

I know we don't have a given right to be competing at the top end of the division year on year, but we should be using this time to modernise the infrastructure and staffing hierarchy of the club so that isn't entirely reliant on one man and a small scale operation.

There are absolutely naff all signs of this planning taking place. Until we do this, the next man will ultimately fail.

Well fucking said

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Valid points there KIMD, but until the court case is sorted (+ 1 potential) and the EFL are off their backs, I can't see the owners committing to anything. That's not to say plans are being made but add on the mess they made the last time a manager was replaced. I've thought all along that this season is all about surviving while Rosen + co decide what they want to do stick or twist, while we are kept in the dark amid utter frustration and growing anger.

 

[Bell4]

My main qualm with the latest Wilder era and it's frustrating as fuck, is that we aren't using this time wisely.

I know we don't have a given right to be competing at the top end of the division year on year, but we should be using this time to modernise the infrastructure and staffing hierarchy of the club so that isn't entirely reliant on one man and a small scale operation.

There are absolutely naff all signs of this planning taking place. Until we do this, the next man will ultimately fail.

Best post

We know why CW is still here , we know we most probably won’t go down , he knows and we all know his time should be up . He’s does however deserve much more respect imo .

The big question, as you say , is what’s happening to safeguard the immediate future during this brittle treading water period ?

 

[Gin&Juice]

My main qualm with the latest Wilder era and it's frustrating as fuck, is that we aren't using this time wisely.

I know we don't have a given right to be competing at the top end of the division year on year, but we should be using this time to modernise the infrastructure and staffing hierarchy of the club so that isn't entirely reliant on one man and a small scale operation.

There are absolutely naff all signs of this planning taking place. Until we do this, the next man will ultimately fail.

Nail meets head. Short term priorities. Same owd.

 

[Slim Man]

 

[Roygbiv]

My main qualm with the latest Wilder era and it's frustrating as fuck, is that we aren't using this time wisely.

I know we don't have a given right to be competing at the top end of the division year on year, but we should be using this time to modernise the infrastructure and staffing hierarchy of the club so that isn't entirely reliant on one man and a small scale operation.

There are absolutely naff all signs of this planning taking place. Until we do this, the next man will ultimately fail.

Excellent post. It really feels like we're going to have to get relegated before the board open their eyes to the fact our current way of business doesn't work

 

[Gin&Juice]

Excellent post. It really feels like we're going to have to get relegated before the board open their eyes to the fact our current way of business doesn't work

We’re terrible at trying something new which is the frustrating part.

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We get it completely wrong and revert to Bled knows best. Short term success, then it just becomes stale and boring, everyone kicks off and we get to where we’re at again. Also, the new owners don’t have a clue, so either we stick with Wilder until relegation or we get someone in from abroad who drowns in the mess after two months.

 

[Roygbiv]

We’re terrible at trying something new which is the frustrating part.

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Jokanovic
Selles

We get it completely wrong and revert to Bled knows best. Short term success, then it just becomes stale and boring, everyone kicks off and we get to where we’re at again. Also, the new owners don’t have a clue, so either we stick with Wilder until relegation or we get someone in from abroad who drowns in the mess after two months.

I think the most ridiculous thing uttered by some fans is "we know foreign managers don't work for us". It's like saying Dean Hammond was crap so that proves midfielders don't work for us. We're not some sort of special case club who have to rely on a local manager for success. For every Wilder 1.0 and Warnock there's a Micky Adams and Chris Morgan

 

[Pintor75]

Wilder knows it's his last decent job/pay day, so he ain't going to quit and maybe the owners don't want to pay him off just yet so they can reduce the amount they have to pay. these owners needs to think about the future, we are drifting along with one man controlling the shots, but he's yesterday's man who would be better off at Rotherham or Doncaster where he could be a hero again (maybe). When we are thinking of who to sign doesn't anyone consider that players might take one looks and think they don't want to play for that shower and their scruffy manager who can't even be bothered to have a shave on match days and is more bothered about culture and getting the club than playing good football and winning things, he's dragging the club down and they can't see it, wake up owners!

 

[Pedro Verde]

When we are thinking of who to sign doesn't anyone consider that players might take one looks and think they don't want to play for that shower and their scruffy manager who can't even be bothered to have a shave on match days and is more bothered about culture and getting the club than playing good football and winning things, he's dragging the club down and they can't see it, wake up owners!

Then you look at players like Bamford and Phillips that do clearly want to play for him
I do think Wilder should go probably at the end of this season but there should be plans in place for that scenario. I doubt there is any plan

 

[Silky Sabella]

A manager who talks logic because he is tactically astute, everything that wilder is not

 

[metalblade]

Only the owners and members of the Wilder cult can't see he is destroying the club. Fair enough we had to sell players to balance the books, but my God look at the replacements or lack of replacements. Who in their right mind thinks loading the squad with 30+ journeymen is the way to go? They are here for a last pay day and don't give a toss whether we win or lose as long as thousands of pounds hit their bank accounts each month. Not only that but when they do pick up injuries they take longer to recover few of them have the pace or stamina to keep up with younger more athletic players. We are down to a handful of our own players who have any sort of future in the game be it here or elsewhere. Who are we going to sell next summer maybe only Cooper or Peck will bring in decent money. Next summer we are back to searching free signings and old peoples homes to make a squad.
We really need a clear out now of the likes of the forever unfit Shackleton and Doherty, the hopeless Reiderwald, Chong, McGuinness, Rothwell, Ayew, Campbell and Cannon if we can get a small fee for him. All these players are bleeding cash out of the club. This load of are blocking the progress of any young players at the club who we should be introducing to men's football. I'd rather us play kids who will make a few mistakes, and you never know we might unearth a few gems if not at least they have a resale value.
Like one or two have been saying it could take a relegation before the owners and the club wake up, sack Bettis and Wilder and get some modern football people in for a full top to bottom rebuild.

 

[Blade59]

Think we need to start higher up than Wilder. We need a new CEO. Bettis had done 10 years which is a long time in a large company. We need someone who will come in and take a fresh look with new ideas both in the structure needed to be successful and develop a short, medium and long term strategy to achieve this. Bettis whilst he may have done a steady job has missed the opportunity to use the relative success in terms of promotions, premiership monies etc to establish a platform for the club to move forward and secure its future. If we had a legacy of say a Cat 1 academy by now the pain of that last premiership season would have been worth it. Somehow we have ended back in the same or worse position than we started under his tenure. The owners need to see this quickly if they want to have any chance of getting any return on their investment.

 

[ancientblade]

But not mega wealthy either and probably got used to a certain lifestyle that he (and his wife) will want to keep, he won’t walk away from whatever money is left in the contract neither would anyone unless your moving to a longer contract with better pay elsewhere.

We’re stuck with him until his contract is up (same goes for some of the dross he signed) or he’s fired, I’ve kind of zoned out from us at the minute, still go but don’t look forward to it and have missed a couple this season but not been bothered.

looking at our home crowds think your last paragraph sums the club and our fans up perfectly at the minute uninspiring boring football from wilder unrecognisable from the wilder of 10 years ago change needed if not this season next summer the club needs a change of direction

 

[ancientblade]

Only the owners and members of the Wilder cult can't see he is destroying the club. Fair enough we had to sell players to balance the books, but my God look at the replacements or lack of replacements. Who in their right mind thinks loading the squad with 30+ journeymen is the way to go? They are here for a last pay day and don't give a toss whether we win or lose as long as thousands of pounds hit their bank accounts each month. Not only that but when they do pick up injuries they take longer to recover few of them have the pace or stamina to keep up with younger more athletic players. We are down to a handful of our own players who have any sort of future in the game be it here or elsewhere. Who are we going to sell next summer maybe only Cooper or Peck will bring in decent money. Next summer we are back to searching free signings and old peoples homes to make a squad.
We really need a clear out now of the likes of the forever unfit Shackleton and Doherty, the hopeless Reiderwald, Chong, McGuinness, Rothwell, Ayew, Campbell and Cannon if we can get a small fee for him. All these players are bleeding cash out of the club. This load of are blocking the progress of any young players at the club who we should be introducing to men's football. I'd rather us play kids who will make a few mistakes, and you never know we might unearth a few gems if not at least they have a resale value.
Like one or two have been saying it could take a relegation before the owners and the club wake up, sack Bettis and Wilder and get some modern football people in for a full top to bottom rebuild.

spot on

 

[54yrblade]

looking at our home crowds think your last paragraph sums the club and our fans up perfectly at the minute uninspiring boring football from wilder unrecognisable from the wilder of 10 years ago change needed if not this season next summer the club needs a change of direction

Couldn't agree more.

Chris used to talk often about a 'proper Sheffield United performance' and then signs so much dross that will never get near that.

The Wilder era is done and we're treading water until the day he clears his desk, hopefully on the same day the recruitment team clear theirs.

 

[Slim Man]

My main gripe, by far, with Wilder is his teams no longer get better. They don't improve. It's like they aren't trained to do anything.

They are genuinely no better now than they were on day 1 - the same as when he took over last time, or even the 90 point season. Theres no innovation or structure, no tactics, nothing developing. They look like strangers on the pitch as much now as they did against Birmingham. I mean, we are still deploying this stupid tactic of letting the opposition shoot from outside the box freely, despite it costing us so often

The same old boring football relying on a bit of luck or a bit of individual quality. Frankly it's laughable.

I could cope with the rest if I thought the team was improving or developing, if the football was becoming slightly more pleasing on the eye, if I saw some patterns of play developing, maybe a bit of innovation.

If it was Steve Bruce in charge rather than Wilder I genuinely wouldn't know.

We are going nowhere fast. Other than down.

(Duplication maybe but it fits here rather than where I posted it originally)

 

[The Fox]

Excellent post. It really feels like we're going to have to get relegated before the board open their eyes to the fact our current way of business doesn't work

I hear yours and many others frustration however I'd be surprised if the owners dont have a post wilder ( possibly post Bettis) strategy.

This season was always going to be about seeing it through , avoiding trouble and starting afresh next season. I'm pretty sure this will be wilders last season in charge , perhaps he knows that and has accepted the brief.

Over half the squad will go in June and it'll hopefully signal something of a new era .

Its not great to write off the season in November but we were never going to be challenging the top 6 in reality.

Its not a defence of anyone , just going to be a case of getting to the end with our status intact , I think we'll manage that uninspiring as it is.

 

[Roygbiv]

I hear yours and many others frustration however I'd be surprised if the owners dont have a post wilder ( possibly post Bettis) strategy.

This season was always going to be about seeing it through , avoiding trouble and starting afresh next season. I'm pretty sure this will be wilders last season in charge , perhaps he knows that and has accepted the brief.

Over half the squad will go in June and it'll hopefully signal something of a new era .

Its not great to write off the season in November but we were never going to be challenging the top 6 in reality.

Its not a defence of anyone , just going to be a case of getting to the end with our status intact , I think we'll manage that uninspiring as it is.

I hope you're right and I do sometimes think they must have some sort of a plan going forward but their actions suggest not. It feels like there's a lot of people protecting other people at the club at the moment with Bettis, Wilder, the scouting team etc all people who have worked with each other for an awful long time. We just feel like a stale club that needs a sledgehammer taking to it

 

[Davalon]

I hope you're right and I do sometimes think they must have some sort of a plan going forward but their actions suggest not. It feels like there's a lot of people protecting other people at the club at the moment with Bettis, Wilder, the scouting team etc all people who have worked with each other for an awful long time. We just feel like a stale club that needs a sledgehammer taking to it

Exactly that and throw in a sizeable section of the fanbase too.

 

[RandomBlade]

I’m a bit fed up of seeing his gurning fizz hog during games and in his post match interviews. Talk about familiarity breeding contempt. Can you imagine the season ticket pitch for next season after we just about escape relegation this season? With him in charge again? Just go, for Gods sake just go.

Easy remedy. Dont watch or listen.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Exactly that and throw in a sizeable section of the fanbase too.

The fanbase are protecting each other or need a sledgehammer taking to them?

 

[Davalon]

The fanbase are protecting each other or need a sledgehammer taking to them?

The fanbase protecting Wilder and co

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

The fanbase protecting Wilder and co

I get what you mean but I think even some of the hardcore Wilder protectors are starting to realise the game is up.