Outgoing? Callum O'Hare

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I mean similar quality as in top end chamionship player and availability along with the fitness. Its why I mention or someone better suited to how we want to play.

I agree we shoehorn ohare into the team. But we havnt built a team around him or his qualities properly.

If we can get £7-8m for him and bring in some pace and genuine quality then its not end of the world.

Id like to see a proper lw and a big althetic striker but I still feel we are missing a proper attacking minded midfielder, someone that can carry the ball and beat a man & drive from middle (lookman style of midfielder).
Two things to ponder in your (sensible) post:

1- Do you trust the board to support the reinvestment for said players?

2- Do you believe that if the investment is available, the manager also agrees the areas we are desperate for players?
 



Amazing how little we have to show for having been in the PL.

Is the current squad actually any better than the one which came up from league 1 years ago? Noone in the side could touch prime fleck, bash , JOC etc.

Bet we sell COH but ‘stand firm’ on Cannon for some unknow Reason to enjoy his 4 goals (3 pens) over the rest of the season. To see him leave for free at the end of his deal
Yep - circa £500 million squandered since 2019!!! We are a test case for how to use Premier League money so badly!
 
Billy’s free ain’t he, as we seem to be scraping the barrel with ex-players.

Starting to think we are in an even bigger financial mess than we realise. Selling Callum really is telling the squad why bother. If we get a decent replacement maybe things will look up, but not holding my breath.
 
God awful start to a season this is really worse than selling Deane and fjortoft on the same day

It's not. But it is a fucking shocking start to the season.

Mind, I expect us to spend 3m or so on someone like Cleary by the end of the day.
 
This is absolutely shocking. Brooks was bad enough. We all understood Gus but to do this is just waving a white flag. These owners are pathetic and deserve absolutely no respect from anyone. It was obvious they were parasites about 10 minutes after they walked through the door. Turned us into relegation candidates in 18 months.
Dunno why you're shocked.
Maybe you're thinking we're a football club ?
To the idiot yanks , we're just a bad investment they need to exit.
There's no prospect of progress without parachutes , so tidy up the balance sheet just like the prince did in 23/24 , risk getting relegated but get sold.
 
Two things to ponder in your (sensible) post:

1- Do you trust the board to support the reinvestment for said players?

2- Do you believe that if the investment is available, the manager also agrees the areas we are desperate for players?
1 - no

2 - unsure (id like to think yes, but we know how blinkered he can get on targets).
 
I was firmly CW IN. Because this season was always lined up to be a shit show and I think he’d keep us up.

But he is losing me with his actions over the summer. Has he shown any inclination to get creativity in? I cant see it, he’s too busy wasting resources on back up centrebacks and 3rd choice full backs.

Like Can anyone tell me What the fuck is Doherty doing here? No offense to the guy but wilders signed him to cheerlead - could his not insubstantial wages not have gone on an attacker?

Wilder seems perfectly content to strip the side of talent, flair, excitement, creativity and goals without seeking replacements.

His perfect 11 based on his signings feels like it would be 5 defenders, 4 defensive midfielders and Tom Cannon.
My biggest bug bare with CW is that he says one thing and then acts completely different so it’s hard to trust him anymore….

It started with his ‘nobodies boy’ comment and now he clearly is somebodies boy … wants to play on the fact he’s a fan but then side steps questions that the fans want answers to… happy to drink it up in the boozers when the odd result goes his way but won’t own it when they don’t ….

And it’s clear with his answers recent that the winners want him to coach the squad and not be involved in trf…. But he lacks the ability to coach … he is a very good man manager but lot a coach
 
Well, that's it then.
Our 3 best players have been sold.
 



Brooks, Hamer and O'Hare in one window

Phenomenal, historic

We'll obviously look back on this as a pivotal moment in a couple of years time, when we're slumming about in L1 with Nigel Clough back in charge (genuinely, that will happen)
 
Ffs. Hard to see much creativity now. Might as well knock it down the line and into the channels for Jock and Bradders to cross it in. I’d actually be alright with that style, but we don’t seem to play with real intent whatever we do.
 
Surely we’re only going to complete the sale if we get his replacement signed?

What am I thinking, that’s only something a well run club would do.
You really think the owners care about that when they can use squad sales to save their money and pay off the Prince.
 
Never, we are painfully slow at getting deals done at the best of times, we will get the old " we had bids in but time was against us" shit and being expected to accept it
Still haven't replaced gus not that i were expecting to either but can't tell me BBD is the hamer replacement. Nowhere near like for like
 
A Cov mate (who thinks he's ITK) said that O'Hare was keen to leave - not just because Gus left, our club is a shitshow, we have no ambition or chance of promotion. He just really wants to be on telly and fancies an acting career once he's hung his boots up. But in all seriousness this is a big loss. Our last creative player who actually gave a fuck.
 



No it’s not… we were well set for promotion then and playing great football. Not the case now!
I would argue the ramifications will be worse … at least there was no threat of relegation and we did have plenty of attacking options that season
 

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