Outgoing? Callum O'Hare

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When we talk about sliding-door moments, today really could be one of them.

If we sell O’Hare and Cannon, don’t reinvest, or simply don’t have the time to bring players in, and we’re probably looking at relegation — especially with the potential 12-point deduction coming our way (and maybe even without it).

Reinvest at least £8 million, bring in two decent wingers and a striker on loan, and we could potentially rebuild into a competitive 4-3-3 that makes effective use of our abundance of half-decent holding midfielders.

Decisions made by the club hierarchy in the next 12 hours could genuinely define the next 5 years.
 
Macfarlane21 said:
When we talk about sliding-door moments, today really could be one of them.

If we sell O’Hare and Cannon, don’t reinvest, or simply don’t have the time to bring players in, and we’re probably looking at relegation — especially with the potential 12-point deduction coming our way (and maybe even without it).

Reinvest at least £8 million, bring in two decent wingers and a striker on loan, and we could potentially rebuild into a competitive 4-3-3 that makes effective use of our abundance of half-decent holding midfielders.

Decisions made by the club hierarchy in the next 12 hours could genuinely define the next 5 years.
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Makes you feel alive, doesn't it?!
 
As long as we have a replacement lined up and is of similar quality (or better suited to how we play) then all is well.

But how we have been run so far in the window, I am not that optimistic, since we have sold and not replaced with the same quality if at all.
 
Jones/Birchenall, Deane/Fjortoft, Ndiaye/Berger, Hamer/O’Hare 😞
 
Don’t know any other club that sells there better players to their rivals at the same time as expecting to compete for promotion.

Madness that we were only in the premiership 3 seasons ago and were in this position already.

Don’t expect to hear anything from the owners, they’re cowards. Wilder will take the brunt of it.
 
Well, bloody hell

But it should be a good fee

And he's at peak value

Good player, no more, not irreplaceable

I'm sure we'll sign a suitable replacement today....... 🤣
 



Amazing how little we have to show for having been in the PL.

Is the current squad actually any better than the one which came up from league 1 years ago? Noone in the side could touch prime fleck, bash , JOC etc.

Bet we sell COH but ‘stand firm’ on Cannon for some unknow Reason to enjoy his 4 goals (3 pens) over the rest of the season. To see him leave for free at the end of his deal
 
Blademan89 said:
As long as we have a replacement lined up and is of similar quality (or better suited to how we play) then all is well.

But how we have been run so far in the window, I am not that optimistic, since we have sold and not replaced with the same quality if at all.
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I don’t think we do and I don’t think we need to.

He is the prime reason we play 4-2-3-1.

So, we get a like for like and try to play the same way, or we simply don’t and adopt a system which better suits.

If you want 4-4-2 then you can do that with what we have or if we also sell Cannon then BBD can play central and perhaps we try to get Cleary rather than a 10.

Or, we play 4-3-3 and we have BBD-Bamford-Donovan and perhaps we need one more option as we have Oné, Campbell and Chong as back ups.

We’ve got enough to support a midfield two or three without much trouble.
 
This is absolutely shocking. Brooks was bad enough. We all understood Gus but to do this is just waving a white flag. These owners are pathetic and deserve absolutely no respect from anyone. It was obvious they were parasites about 10 minutes after they walked through the door. Turned us into relegation candidates in 18 months.
 
3Cheers4Ramirez said:
Well, bloody hell

But it should be a good fee

And he's at peak value

Good player, no more, not irreplaceable

I'm sure we'll sign a suitable replacement today....... 🤣
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It’s sensible business to sell him if we had a plan in place beyond free transfers & loans.

The worry is we’ve sold Hamer, COH, Brooks

And so far replaced with Donovan who’s basically Brooks 3 years ago. BBD unable to play 46 games a season.

I’d be really intrigued to hear the conversations that the board have
 
What a fantastic way to start the morning. Selling COH (most likely for peanuts). His replacement will be a loan aswell which actually pisses me off more thinking about it!! The fact we are selling our best player to a rival is an absolute joke. I really do think this season is going to be a struggle to watch.

As much as i have been in the Wilder out camp. I can't imagine he would have sanctioned these transfers and genuinely feel sorry for him now that we can't get his targets.

I really hope CW will stay the season now as can't imagine a manager of quality will want to take the reins here with us.
 
Champagneblade said:
I don’t think we do and I don’t think we need to.

He is the prime reason we play 4-2-3-1.

So, we get a like for like and try to play the same way, or we simply don’t and adopt a system which better suits.

If you want 4-4-2 then you can do that with what we have or if we also sell Cannon then BBD can play central and perhaps we try to get Cleary rather than a 10.

Or, we play 4-3-3 and we have BBD-Bamford-Donovan and perhaps we need one more option as we have Oné, Campbell and Chong as back ups.

We’ve got enough to support a midfield two or three without much trouble.
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I mean similar quality as in top end chamionship player and availability along with the fitness. Its why I mention or someone better suited to how we want to play.

I agree we shoehorn ohare into the team. But we havnt built a team around him or his qualities properly.

If we can get £7-8m for him and bring in some pace and genuine quality then its not end of the world.

Id like to see a proper lw and a big althetic striker but I still feel we are missing a proper attacking minded midfielder, someone that can carry the ball and beat a man & drive from middle (lookman style of midfielder).
 
Macfarlane21 said:
When we talk about sliding-door moments, today really could be one of them.

If we sell O’Hare and Cannon, don’t reinvest, or simply don’t have the time to bring players in, and we’re probably looking at relegation — especially with the potential 12-point deduction coming our way (and maybe even without it).

Reinvest at least £8 million, bring in two decent wingers and a striker on loan, and we could potentially rebuild into a competitive 4-3-3 that makes effective use of our abundance of half-decent holding midfielders.

Decisions made by the club hierarchy in the next 12 hours could genuinely define the next 5 years.
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I'd suggest that the new owners going all in on Wilder, giving him 10 million for Cannon, Chris's negative tactics and his team folding against our promotion rivals and in the PO final, the turgid boring football last season and this, his inability to have a plan B since 2021, his endless clichés and 'type' of player that obviously stands by ('gets it' whatever that's supposed to mean, mature, 'culture carriers' & English, in what he clearly sees as his own image and the myopic and limited recruitment team) have defined the next 5 years equally.

Thankfully he, and we, have the 16-21 memories to keep because the rest of his tenure has been sub optimal.

If he wasnt an ex player and from Sheffield, and by god does he love his ex players, I doubt very much that he'd have still been tolerated as much as he has.
 
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God awful start to a season this is really worse than selling Deane and fjortoft on the same day
 



Hallamboy87 said:
What a fantastic way to start the morning. Selling COH (most likely for peanuts). His replacement will be a loan aswell which actually pisses me off more thinking about it!! The fact we are selling our best player to a rival is an absolute joke. I really do think this season is going to be a struggle to watch.

As much as i have been in the Wilder out camp. I can't imagine he would have sanctioned these transfers and genuinely feel sorry for him now that we can't get his targets.

I really hope CW will stay the season now as can't imagine a manager of quality will want to take the reins here with us.
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I was firmly CW IN. Because this season was always lined up to be a shit show and I think he’d keep us up.

But he is losing me with his actions over the summer. Has he shown any inclination to get creativity in? I cant see it, he’s too busy wasting resources on back up centrebacks and 3rd choice full backs.

Like Can anyone tell me What the fuck is Doherty doing here? No offense to the guy but wilders signed him to cheerlead - could his not insubstantial wages not have gone on an attacker?

Wilder seems perfectly content to strip the side of talent, flair, excitement, creativity and goals without seeking replacements.

His perfect 11 based on his signings feels like it would be 5 defenders, 4 defensive midfielders and Tom Cannon.
 
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