Incoming? Kalvin Phillips

[NerdyBlade]

Dave Bassett, Warnock, Heckingbottom, Morgan, Speed, Spackman, WIlson, Clough. Kendall was OK but I wasn't going to games when he was here. my family speak fondly of Porterfield but I don't really remember much of it.

Deeply offensive that Atkins isn't in there

 

[SUFC Guy]

The lack of pace and width there is scary.

We don't any need pace with our side to side crab dancing formation.

We can't defend anyway so forget having to chase back

 

[FTPE]

Deeply offensive that Atkins isn't in there

Ron Atkins?

 

[Torrix1889]

The lack of pace and width there is scary.

Sign a left winger and my thoughts will change but that's about the best we can hope for so far I think.

4-4-1-2

Coops

Seriki
Tanganga
Souttar
McCallum

New LW
Phillips
Hamer
Donavon

O'Hare

Bamford

 

[Nick Jansky]

He’s been doing training with Jack Grealish. His fitness won’t be bad.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Sign a left winger and my thoughts will change but that's about the best we can hope for so far I think.

4-4-1-2

Big fan of this formation too. Always feels like you have a extra man on the pitch.

 

[Torrix1889]

Big fan of this formation too. Always feels like you have a extra man on the pitch.

Been a long day!

 

[Upton_Blade]

It's frustrating that he's not coming in during the beginning of pre season. I hope we are going to build him up before we let him loose so we don't break him. If he can stay fit and he's motivated he's quality.

I genuinely don't get this thinking. What would he have done here in pre season that hasn't done at Man City?

Do people think he's just been sat on his arse all summer and will only start training properly once he signs?

Or are we saying that he needs a full "Wilder pre season" as if that's some sort of magical thing that sorts out all fitness issues as the last few years would say otherwise.

 

[Upton_Blade]

Dave Bassett, Warnock, Heckingbottom, Morgan, Speed, Spackman, WIlson, Clough. Kendall was OK but I wasn't going to games when he was here. my family speak fondly of Porterfield but I don't really remember much of it.

Kendall was more than OK tbh but if you wren't around then it's fair enough you hold that view.

 

[Bladethebrian]

Kendall was excellent

 

[Gin&Juice]

Kendall was excellent

Better when he came in his first season, amazing stuff. Always felt in the second season we were too inconsistent and the players and him enjoyed boozing too much. Took them away to get pissed before the play-off final.

 

[Kona]

Kendall was excellent

As was Spackman, in his short stint.

 

[McDonagh Blade]

Better when he came in his first season, amazing stuff. Always felt in the second season we were too inconsistent and the players and him enjoyed boozing too much. Took them away to get pissed before the play-off final.

Terrific until Cowans and Ablett weren't signed on perms.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I genuinely don't get this thinking. What would he have done here in pre season that hasn't done at Man City?

Do people think he's just been sat on his arse all summer and will only start training properly once he signs?

Or are we saying that he needs a full "Wilder pre season" as if that's some sort of magical thing that sorts out all fitness issues as the last few years would say otherwise.

I doubt he's played any games. He's probably done the basic training and gym work. I'd be surprised if he's at 100% before the end of September. The key is to build him up without injuring him by going too hard, too soon. Hopefully he's looked after his weight and done a personal plan knowing he's going out on loan, but I wouldn't bank on it.

I think the difference between last season and the previous season was patently obvious. It couldn't have been more stark. What surprises me is that Sheffield United fans don't value pre season. In every athletic sport I follow, the pre season is pivotal. In football when I see players join late in pre season (and especially in January if they haven't been playing) I expect their impact on the side to be limited. When I see players return mid season from long term injuries I expect the same. Fitness is absolutely pivotal in elite sport and has been for the best part of 30 years.

 

[1889]

Better when he came in his first season, amazing stuff. Always felt in the second season we were too inconsistent and the players and him enjoyed boozing too much. Took them away to get pissed before the play-off final.

Yeah, at least Wilder keeps them local

 

[Champagneblade]

You asked which managers I appreciated - not who I thought performed the best. You can run through win percentages for that but I'll warn you, it doesn't reflect well on Cwissy.

You can’t really compare win % without factoring in the division.

Clough and Wilson winning in League One and both failing to get promoted, same
Adkins, whilst Wilder has 2 seasons in there at PL level.

I’d you want a comparison like that, compare Wilder’s League One record to them.

100 points wasn’t it?

 

[ATL Recs]

If we bring in Phillips it will almost certainly be on a 'pay-as-you-play' basis, as his previous record presents a risk.

Having watched him in his short tenure at United last season, he clearly wasn't fit but his ability on the ball and reading of the game was top-class. The red card against Wednesday was justified, but I felt sorry for him as it was him being a split-second too slow and catching the man. Nothing malicious, but the sort of challenge he'd have made cleanly if he was up to speed.

I'm disappointed that if we do bring him in, it's late in the summer so he wont benefit from a proper Wilder pre-season where he's promised to emphasise fitness. I expect if he'll be used sparingly to start the season.

But if we get even half of the player he was when Man City first bought him, he will be a massive game-changer in this division. We looked light and weak in midfield last season, aside from Jairo, and someone like Phillips will add bite and a ton of quality.

What’s a proper wilder pre- season ?
Walk about v chesterfield and v Rotherham trialist don’t drink and drive courses and Dietary programmes by Hamer based on the Mouset Diet

 

[LudlamBlade]

Interesting little nod in an article about the similarities between Phillips & Anderson...

 

[FriethBlade]

Played 442 a fair bit?

I guess it depends on how u view it. For me we seemed to play Bamford up top on his own with the likes of Ohare buzzing around or Cannon playing in behind.

For me a 'proper' front two is a Deane/Agana big man fast man pairing. The closest we could get to that is probably Bamford and Cannon both playing as a front 2. However doing that makes it difficult to get Ohare and Gus both in the team and they are our two most creative players.

I think the "problem" we have is that Ohare is difficult to position and when hes in the team hes effectively the second striker without actually being an out and out striker.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Interesting little nod in an article about the similarities between Phillips & Anderson...

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Just read that article, it seems like the beeb are saying it's a done deal.

 

[Big.Dane.w]

Just read that article, it seems like the beeb are saying it's a done deal.

Oh fantastic

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Better when he came in his first season, amazing stuff. Always felt in the second season we were too inconsistent and the players and him enjoyed boozing too much. Took them away to get pissed before the play-off final.

Were they dancing on the tables in the Banner Cross. Yawn.

 

[Maceyblade]

What’s a proper wilder pre- season ?
Walk about v chesterfield and v Rotherham trialist don’t drink and drive courses and Dietary programmes by Hamer based on the Mouset Diet

He talked a lot about players not being fit when he came back in last season, and seemed to be lamenting that pre-season wasn't intense enough under Selles.

Friendlies are where the actual work happens in pre-season. Most players don't even make 90mins in them, and they're always fairly pedestrian. My understanding is that Wilder gets the players doing a lot more physical work in the gym and the training ground, and whilst I know we've called out how often players tend to break down under him, I think he values players that can go full-tilt for 90mins so that reflects on how he organises pre-season.

God knows what Selles had them doing last summer...

 

[Berkshire Blade]

He talked a lot about players not being fit when he came back in last season, and seemed to be lamenting that pre-season wasn't intense enough under Selles.

Friendlies are where the actual work happens in pre-season. Most players don't even make 90mins in them, and they're always fairly pedestrian. My understanding is that Wilder gets the players doing a lot more physical work in the gym and the training ground, and whilst I know we've called out how often players tend to break down under him, I think he values players that can go full-tilt for 90mins so that reflects on how he organises pre-season.

God knows what Selles had them doing last summer...

Chris Morgan, who is an agent these days, was on radio commentary and mentioned players had spoken to him about how they felt pre season didn't prepare them for the physical demands as it was more technical based.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Chris Morgan, who is an agent these days, was on radio commentary and mentioned players had spoken to him about how they felt pre season didn't prepare them for the physical demands as it was more technical based.

It would be nice if players took a bit more responsibility for their own physical conditioning, given their bodies are literally the tools of their trade. John Lundstram was a great example of doing this during the summer of 2019 and it paid huge dividends for him.

 

[KMC-1889]

Chris Morgan, who is an agent these days, was on radio commentary and mentioned players had spoken to him about how they felt pre season didn't prepare them for the physical demands as it was more technical based.

I heard the same from someone around the club. Lot of time spent with the ball on the assumption that players were responsible enough to look after their own physical conditioning. Hopefully a lesson learnt for a young coach.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Kendall was excellent

Apart from taking the team for a week long piss up instead of training before the Play Off Final v Palace….and then wondering why the team played like they’d been on the piss for a week.

 

[blade67]

It would be nice if players took a bit more responsibility for their own physical conditioning, given their bodies are literally the tools of their trade. John Lundstram was a great example of doing this during the summer of 2019 and it paid huge dividends for him.

videos of him and Billy out in /dubai training like maniacs, if i recall correctly