Just get rid

[Shadota]

Nobody who says wilder out state who comes in. Who is available and who will come ? Anotther cluster fuck waiting to happen..

And the laziest argument lifts its head once more.

Multiple people, myself included, have stuck our necks out and suggested managers who could replace Wilder in the hypothetical scenario that he did go. Personal favourite would be Skubala at Lincoln based on current performances.

However, what interests me more at this point, is when will anyone who postures this redundant argument, make their case for why Wilder should remain in charge? For what it's worth, I think we'll still have him in charge next season, but I've never heard anyone who is in Wilder's corner give any reasoning for why he should continue.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

There are literally thousands of managers/coaches in the world. I’m sure there will be at least one available that can do a better job than Wilder.

...be careful what you wish for...

 

[Badger Blade]

Wilder will be here next season whether some like it or not.

He's probably the right man for the job in the here and now but there needs to be some proper succession and scenario planning going on behind the scenes because I'm not sure that bringing back a 78 year old Chris Wilder for his 7th spell in charge when the shit hits the fan again is really the way to be going!

Last summer's recruitment was like doing supermarket sweep round B&M, 5 minutes before closing time, filling the trolley with shit and hoping that there's some stuff in there that might be half decent once you rummage through the bags.

Wilder did a bit of a cash in the attic job and stumbled across something in an old woman's loft that others thought were a load of rubbish but turned out to be pretty valuable when it came to Bamford and Riedewald.

He knows what needs fixing, he knows who and what needs chucking out and its his job to make it happen within the constraints he's got to work within. Some will go to auction, some will be kept on display, some will go in the big ikea bag to the charity shop where there might be some takers for them and there will be others that go straight to the tip.

If Wilder doesn't make a decent fist of things next season (i.e. top 8) then I'm sure we can give a job to someone with a "philosophy" like Will Still or Liam Manning to make doubly certain that we go down!

 

[Harrisblade]

Wilder will be here next season whether some like it or not.

He's probably the right man for the job in the here and now but there needs to be some proper succession and scenario planning going on behind the scenes because I'm not sure that bringing back a 78 year old Chris Wilder for his 7th spell in charge when the shit hits the fan again is really the way to be going!

Last summer's recruitment was like doing supermarket sweep round B&M, 5 minutes before closing time, filling the trolley with shit and hoping that there's some stuff in there that might be half decent once you rummage through the bags.

Wilder did a bit of a cash in the attic job and stumbled across something in an old woman's loft that others thought were a load of rubbish but turned out to be pretty valuable when it came to Bamford and Riedewald.

He knows what needs fixing, he knows who and what needs chucking out and its his job to make it happen within the constraints he's got to work within. Some will go to auction, some will be kept on display, some will go in the big ikea bag to the charity shop where there might be some takers for them and there will be others that go straight to the tip.

If Wilder doesn't make a decent fist of things next season (i.e. top 8) then I'm sure we can give a job to someone with a "philosophy" like Will Still or Liam Manning to make doubly certain that we go down!

Why don't we bring back our previous "highly regarded" managers such as Janckovic or Selles???

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Wilder is not going anywhere for a year at least, people just need to get over it and accept it, focus on discussing what we need to do in the summer to improve us.

I wouldn't bet on that.
Season Tickets will be down, and if Wilder doesn't hit the ground running the rumblings will start pretty early and grow.
I don’t think Wilder is has popular with our fan base as some of the Wilder fan club think.

 

[DifferentClass]

Blaster getting his daughter up the duff might keep him round for a while

 

[Pintor75]

Blaster getting his daughter up the duff might keep him round for a while

Maybe grandad will want to spend time with the grandkid, whatll happen then

 

[DifferentClass]

Maybe grandad will want to spend time with the grandkid, whatll happen then

Babby will be playing for us in 20 years time!

 

[247Blade]

Blaster getting his daughter up the duff might keep him round for a while

Wondered why Blaster was in the current squad?

 

[Tom Bott]

Wilder so boring now. Same old predictable shite for nearly 10 years. New direction needed.

Imagine if your boss sacked you.

Then appointed a replacement for you and a basket (case) full of new workers, a few months down the line the new 'team' brought the business to the brink of insolvency.

Your old boss calls you up and asks if you would come back and save the firm from insolvency (think relegation) while having to work with basket case of new employees because they are all on long contracts.

What would you say to your old boss?

Maybe Wilder should be given some praise for not telling COH to F off, and to have saved the club from possible relegation.

Remember we were below Wendy when he came back.
Remember the players looked like they didn't even know what sport they were playing after Selles 'vertical indoctrination'.

Still don't let me cloud your fixed narrative.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Nobody who says wilder out state who comes in. Who is available and who will come ? Anotther cluster fuck waiting to happen..

I’d just hope that when Wilder does leave us, we actually go through the process of vetting and maybe even interviewing the bloke who replaces him. If we decide to just give the job to a random Spanish bloke without talking to him first I don’t think it will end well.

My guess would be that we have a bit of an underwhelming season next season and he’s gone in the Summer or 2027, I hope I’m wrong as he carries out a good rebuild and has us scoring 3 goals a game without conceding 4!

 

[VictoryBlade]

If Wrexham don't go up I would like Phil Parkinson to take over from Wilder. Or Nigel Clough.

Crazy!

 

[PrestwichBlade]

I’d just hope that when Wilder does leave us, we actually go through the process of vetting and maybe even interviewing the bloke who replaces him. If we decide to just give the job to a random Spanish bloke without talking to him first I don’t think it will end well.

My guess would be that we have a bit of an underwhelming season next season and he’s gone in the Summer or 2027, I hope I’m wrong as he carries out a good rebuild and has us scoring 3 goals a game without conceding 4!

Wilder's cryogenic head will still be managing us in 2047

 

[wadblade]

No they dont. Most think hes a ****

And i bey most wouldnt want him as their next manager.

Do you actually read the oppo fans views

 

[Tarqs]

Do you actually read the oppo fans views

Yes.

 

[ersblade]

Imagine if your boss sacked you.

Then appointed a replacement for you and a basket (case) full of new workers, a few months down the line the new 'team' brought the business to the brink of insolvency.

Your old boss calls you up and asks if you would come back and save the firm from insolvency (think relegation) while having to work with basket case of new employees because they are all on long contracts.

What would you say to your old boss?

Maybe Wilder should be given some praise for not telling COH to F off, and to have saved the club from possible relegation.

Remember we were below Wendy when he came back.
Remember the players looked like they didn't even know what sport they were playing after Selles 'vertical indoctrination'.

Still don't let me cloud your fixed narrative.

Pretty good description of what most of us would have done tbh and I think most of us have quickly forgotten the state we were in when wilder came back. I guess our hopes were raised when we had the good run but the combination of the Charlton game with injuries and suspension followed by the postponed Oxford game really knocked us out of our stride. Yes we are all frustrated we didn’t push on and make the playoffs and being at st Mary’s for a 1:0 defeat etc didn’t help but suggest we now need to all get behind wilder. Give him next season and review next May. In the meantime we should all get behind him and the club, united we stand as they say!

 

[HermitageBlade]

Unless we completely change the structure and ethos of the club I don’t think a change of manager will make a huge amount of difference, in fact it will probably make things worse. Everything is centred around one man and that needs to change.

 

[Tom Bott]

Everything is centred around one man and that needs to change.

Luckily James Bord's tenure was short lived.

 

[Lane Ender]

I’d just hope that when Wilder finally goes

I’ve given up he’s here for the foreseeable and when we’re in the bottom half next season maybe then he’ll walk.
I’m not buying in to this rebuilding shit he looks tired and worn out we should have walked a play off place from the position we were in mid term but he couldn’t keep the momentum going .

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Babby will be playing for us in 20 years time!

And managing us in 40. THAT'S THE DREAM. Wilder's Grandkid. Proper Bleds.

Maybe Wilder should be given some praise for not telling COH to F off, and to have saved the club from possible relegation.

Probable relegation, I'd wager. We'll never know of course, but the style of play was non-existent, the tactics were anyone's guess, the recruitment was shambolic, the spine of the side was totally absent, we were weak as piss, easy to run through and created naff all. He had no means of bringing together the squad and rallying the troops.

 

[redandwhitewizard]

I'm undecided on Wilder but it seems like whenever we're looking for a new manager all the names we're linked with are terrible. Seems like it ends up being more a case of hoping we don't get this one or that one rather than actually being excited about any of the names in the frame.

 

[TJ blade]

I'm undecided on Wilder but it seems like whenever we're looking for a new manager all the names we're linked with are terrible. Seems like it ends up being more a case of hoping we don't get this one or that one rather than actually being excited about any of the names in the frame.

It hurts me say this, but its who we are really, a club whats just drifting along, rudderless at the top and basically little ambition, so we go for a safe bet! Usually somebody whats failed elsewhere, and we hope its going to work, it hardly does so we again turn on the bladeybladeness tap on

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Yes.

That explains a lot….

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

when will anyone who postures this redundant argument, make their case for why Wilder should remain in charge?

I'll make the argument all day everyday. Waste of time when you completely dismiss results and points as irrelevant. Almost like you don't care about any argument that isn't Wilder is shit.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Imagine if your boss sacked you.

Then appointed a replacement for you and a basket (case) full of new workers, a few months down the line the new 'team' brought the business to the brink of insolvency.

Your old boss calls you up and asks if you would come back and save the firm from insolvency (think relegation) while having to work with basket case of new employees because they are all on long contracts.

What would you say to your old boss?

Maybe Wilder should be given some praise for not telling COH to F off, and to have saved the club from possible relegation.

Remember we were below Wendy when he came back.
Remember the players looked like they didn't even know what sport they were playing after Selles 'vertical indoctrination'.

Still don't let me cloud your fixed narrative.

WDS is a potent thing and ingrained in a vocal minorities grey matter

In reality the vast majority of Unitedites can park Wilder's first spell at the club and still recognise that he did an excellent job last season (and this season) under very difficult circumstances. Last season pushing a tiny squad pre Jan, amidst a takeover wrangle that lasted the whole summer, that close, was an excellent performance from the management. Key injuries also hindered us, but we were in the mix until April and performed admirably in the play offs. If the manager's last name last season was Christophe Wildereti, and he had zero affiliation to the club, he'd have been lauded for turning that shitshow into a functioning outfit.

This season he's saved us from a catastrophe with a month or so to spare. We were the Bamford and Jairo signings away from going down.

Next season we look in big trouble looking at the squad. The WDS minority are already setting massively unrealistic expectations so they can castigate the management if they aren't met. Most people recognise that consolidation would be an achievement. History will be much kinder to the current management than said minority.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

I'll make the argument all day everyday. Waste of time when you completely dismiss results and points as irrelevant. Almost like you don't care about any argument that isn't Wilder is shit.

Yep and when a blade and manager is getting called names by his own supporters its game over. They ain't changing their minds or listening to CW fans.

 

[jimmymuir]

Wilder will be here next season whether some like it or not.

He's probably the right man for the job in the here and now but there needs to be some proper succession and scenario planning going on behind the scenes because I'm not sure that bringing back a 78 year old Chris Wilder for his 7th spell in charge when the shit hits the fan again is really the way to be going!

Last summer's recruitment was like doing supermarket sweep round B&M, 5 minutes before closing time, filling the trolley with shit and hoping that there's some stuff in there that might be half decent once you rummage through the bags.

Wilder did a bit of a cash in the attic job and stumbled across something in an old woman's loft that others thought were a load of rubbish but turned out to be pretty valuable when it came to Bamford and Riedewald.

He knows what needs fixing, he knows who and what needs chucking out and its his job to make it happen within the constraints he's got to work within. Some will go to auction, some will be kept on display, some will go in the big ikea bag to the charity shop where there might be some takers for them and there will be others that go straight to the tip.

If Wilder doesn't make a decent fist of things next season (i.e. top 8) then I'm sure we can give a job to someone with a "philosophy" like Will Still or Liam Manning to make doubly certain that we go down!

If the alternative is Will Still or Liam Manning, then I'd rather Wilder until he's 78.

 

[Houston_Blade]

If the alternative is Will Still or Liam Manning, then I'd rather Wilder until he's 78.

After Rosenior’s finished making a tit of himself at Chelsea I bet COH will fancy a dabble in some more ex-Hull magic

 

[jt64]

I'm undecided on Wilder but it seems like whenever we're looking for a new manager all the names we're linked with are terrible. Seems like it ends up being more a case of hoping we don't get this one or that one rather than actually being excited about any of the names in the frame.

That's probably because those making the links are either:

a) doing really fucking lazy "journalism"
b) actually working out that decent coaches won't work under our current footballing structure and so not mentioning them

 

[jt64]

And the laziest argument lifts its head once more.

It's not a lazy tactic at all. It's a calculated ploy intended to divert from the question of whether Wilder is fit for purpose in the role, making it into a question of Wilder vs (insert name here), from which they can attack the suggestion. For example:

(insert name of foreign coach) - but did you not see Jokanovic or Selles waaaaaaaah, it's certain to fail
(insert name of prominent ex player) - Lampard/Carrick/Rooney are not actually good coaches and only got the job on name value, it's certain to fail
(insert name of experienced option) - dinosaur football, it's certain to fail
(insert name of up and coming talent) - no Championship experience, it's certain to fail
(insert name of anyone without a prior link to SUFC) - he doesn't "get the club", it's certain to fail

I'm sure you can come up with your own similar counter arguments people would use for any of the 8 billion people on the planet that aren't Wilder