Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

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I do think the last few weeks have started to make more fans consider that we need to move on from Wilder. Unfortunately I think he’s convinced some fans (and the board sadly) that he’s the only person who can manage us & will probably be here in August
I have no doubt he'll be here in August.
Everything being said points to that and the other main point is the local media are totally behind him.

Selles was getting asked very difficult questions and had negative articles written from match 1.
You could say rightly so, but there is a definite lack of consistency with how they treat Selles and Wilder, and whilst ever that is the case he's not under anything like the pressure other managers would be.

They certainly won't be calling for him to leave for a long time yet, and I suspect they never will.
 



yes i think wilder will still be here in august but he could well be gone by the end of october personally very much doubt if wilder and knill are taking us anywhere this time round but if he does stay he needs to be far more positive tactic wise and ditch this negative sideways backwards walking football its creating no atmosphere at the lane and completely boring our fans oh for the positive gung ho wilder from 10 years ago
 
I’m looking forward to next season, we have a person in charge who I believe in. This era is definitely the last time ever with Wilder, and he knows it, and this will either bring the best out of him or it just won’t work. Just get behind him, and if it doesn’t work out he’ll get sacked and we try again with someone else, but when you weigh up everything that’s happened with us and wilder, is this how you’d want it to end? He deserves next season, absolutely.
 
I have no doubt he'll be here in August.
Everything being said points to that and the other main point is the local media are totally behind him.

Selles was getting asked very difficult questions and had negative articles written from match 1.
You could say rightly so, but there is a definite lack of consistency with how they treat Selles and Wilder, and whilst ever that is the case he's not under anything like the pressure other managers would be.

They certainly won't be calling for him to leave for a long time yet, and I suspect they never will.
It’s interesting that Danny Hall was all over Selles and mounted a witch hunt for Soumare mid season. Sure doesn’t like foreigners but loves old white men. Perhaps he is more than a little bit reform-y
 
I’m looking forward to next season, we have a person in charge who I believe in. This era is definitely the last time ever with Wilder, and he knows it, and this will either bring the best out of him or it just won’t work. Just get behind him, and if it doesn’t work out he’ll get sacked and we try again with someone else, but when you weigh up everything that’s happened with us and wilder, is this how you’d want it to end? He deserves next season, absolutely.
It’s a two way street, though. They have to give us something we can get behind.
 
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it !!!
COH need to get rid of wilder/ hoyland and move Bettis to what he does good.
We need a good experienced coach,a DOF ( who can bring the totley project in and sort out the recruitment and scouting team )
 



The internet is a strange old place at times. I never quite understand why some have to see you in one ‘camp’ or the other.

I don’t think I’m a Wilder ‘fan boy’ or a ‘hater’. We’ve had some great times with him in charge, and as direct result of his leadership and style.

That being said, I think we’ve reached a ceiling and I’m not convinced we are going to kick on as a club with him in charge. That isn’t necessarily just down to his tactics, but more a case of the club is unlikely to restructure or modernise because of the set up (I think) he prefers and works best in.

Whilst we’ve had some good buys, our recruitment is, at best, patchy and more often than not, predictable. We rarely seem able to get our business done early, and I know some of that is down to getting the right price or options becoming available later in the window, but it’s a frustrating theme we have.

I don’t believe our scouting network is very dynamic and this has long been a criticism of this management team, and we continue to buy injury prone players.

The fitness of the team is woefully short of where it should be, and we seem to regularly have players on the treatment table.

A DoF would be useful addition, if not for Wilder, for the new board. I think it’s clear they have little experience in this field and that will come home to roost, if it hasn’t already.

I could go on, but these are my key concerns. Wilder V1.0 was a great adventure but I feel like that time has passed now. Given our current position, now seems like an ideal opportunity to restructure and bring in some experienced personnel across the business and start afresh for next season.

I know we tried Selles and it didn’t work, but that was because he was an awful choice, and for me it’s as simple as that. There must be numerous managers out there that would relish the chance of this project.

Having said all of this, I very much doubt it will happen. So until it does, Chris will have my support.
 
The internet is a strange old place at times. I never quite understand why some have to see you in one ‘camp’ or the other.

I don’t think I’m a Wilder ‘fan boy’ or a ‘hater’. We’ve had some great times with him in charge, and as direct result of his leadership and style.

That being said, I think we’ve reached a ceiling and I’m not convinced we are going to kick on as a club with him in charge. That isn’t necessarily just down to his tactics, but more a case of the club is unlikely to restructure or modernise because of the set up (I think) he prefers and works best in.

Whilst we’ve had some good buys, our recruitment is, at best, patchy and more often than not, predictable. We rarely seem able to get our business done early, and I know some of that is down to getting the right price or options becoming available later in the window, but it’s a frustrating theme we have.

I don’t believe our scouting network is very dynamic and this has long been a criticism of this management team, and we continue to buy injury prone players.

The fitness of the team is woefully short of where it should be, and we seem to regularly have players on the treatment table.

A DoF would be useful addition, if not for Wilder, for the new board. I think it’s clear they have little experience in this field and that will come home to roost, if it hasn’t already.

I could go on, but these are my key concerns. Wilder V1.0 was a great adventure but I feel like that time has passed now. Given our current position, now seems like an ideal opportunity to restructure and bring in some experienced personnel across the business and start afresh for next season.

I know we tried Selles and it didn’t work, but that was because he was an awful choice, and for me it’s as simple as that. There must be numerous managers out there that would relish the chance of this project.

Having said all of this, I very much doubt it will happen. So until it does, Chris will have my support.
A good post, 100% agree with your observations but can’t like it for the last sentence. 😞

We, (fans) have to show the owners (who as you say clearly have no idea in football matters) we (the customers) are not happy with their product in the forlorn hope they will try and improve the offering rather than try and make a quick buck buying a club that was expected to be promoted to the PL.

Sticking when the batteries have run out is the wrong thing to do, if it was the right thing to do based on past achievements Bassett or Warnock would still be in charge.
 
Seen his Sky post match interview.

He’s got a nose to match that of prime Kendall. Robson and Ferguson. Needs to sort himsen aht. Or he’ll be pushed aht
 
Please confirm he wont be here, so I can renew my ST with at least a tiny bit of optimism.
 
Hes not going anywhere. His primary aim was to save us from relegation, which he's done. Given the strong form we showed mid november to mid December its disappointing the season has fizzled out, but I think the owners will give him another season, given we will stay up comfortably.

If we're not in the top 8 next season, he'll be gone
 
Please confirm he wont be here, so I can renew my ST with at least a tiny bit of optimism.
I'm not sure how you can simply be more optimistic with another manager.

This summer will be a busy one and unless we somehow find some warchest of money to spend. (And spend well).
We won't know until x amount of games into the season starting what sort of season we are likely in for because we are likely to sign players from different backgrounds given it will likely be about 14-15 in.

Unless it's clear as day the squad is shaping up to be of a poor quality for the division (ALA Hecky in the PL season) we ain't going to be able to get the first indication till several games in.

So just renew and live in the hope that next season could be a good one.
We haven't had a cup run for a while, maybe it could be top 8 and a league cup or FA cup run?
 



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