Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

Not saying you're wrong, but which manager(s) are fitting your criteria, and would likely come to us?

I'm not saying managers like that aren't out there, but not sure we're that exciting a proposition at the minute.

With respect, that’s not my job! I am sure we are still a pull for plenty of good managers. If we’re saying COH are scared of their own shadow because they got one manager call wrong, we may as well pack up

 

[metalblade]

I posted in shoutbox at HT today that we had 15mins to score or lose the game when the players gassed out, well we scored twice so were winning 3-1 around the hour mark and guess what we threw it away again because half the players were dead on their feet. Wilder and his staff have had months and over 30 games to change things with regard to fitness yet here we are losing points time after time from winning positions. Wilder and most of the staff have to go, may as well do it now rather than in the summer get rid of the recruitment team too.

 

[ghandi]

Not saying you're wrong, but which manager(s) are fitting your criteria, and would likely come to us?

I'm not saying managers like that aren't out there, but not sure we're that exciting a proposition at the minute.

Possibly Skubala

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

I posted in shoutbox at HT today that we had 15mins to score or lose the game when the players gassed out, well we scored twice so were winning 3-1 around the hour mark and guess what we threw it away again because half the players were dead on their feet. Wilder and his staff have had months and over 30 games to change things with regard to fitness yet here we are losing points time after time from winning positions. Wilder and most of the staff have to go, may as well do it now rather than in the summer get rid of the recruitment team too.

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Absolutely this. He’s had the majority of the season to get them fit, get them playing and he’s had a transfer window.

He gets away with murder whilst Selles takes ALL the blame.

 

[Yoonitedite]

CW doesn't rate many of the players - they're not good enough - and he has very little or no money for players next season

It wouldn't surprise me if many of our players don't rate him.
Just as poor a recipe

 

[metalblade]

^^^^^^^
Absolutely this. He’s had the majority of the season to get them fit, get them playing and he’s had a transfer window.

He gets away with murder whilst Selles takes ALL the blame.

Always someone else to blame with Wilder.

 

[The Fox]

He'll get until Xmas, get fired and someone will have the job of getting into the top 8

It'll be reyt but far from a plan .

 

[Bartleby]

He'll get until Xmas, get fired and someone will have the job of getting into the top 8

It'll be reyt but far from a plan .

And then the replacement can say well it's not my squad if we don't

 

[Nick Jansky]

And then the replacement can say well it's not my squad if we don't

Their first job would be to get more out of that squad than Wilder had been doing. Their second job would be to start developing their own squad over the next few windows, hopefully with a scouting and recruitment set up that’s fit for purpose.

 

[The Fox]

And then the replacement can say well it's not my squad if we don't

Absolutely. We'll get stuck in the same cycle for another season unless the owners show some courage .
After the last match its the biggest decision theyll make

 

[54yrblade]

Not ITK (3rd hand) but apparently there's a full review to be undertaken at season end, inc the managers job.

 

[ancientblade]

i dont think he will last past the end of october if were not up there challenging next season personally i would like us to make a change this summer but with a lot more thought put in to the decision than last summer with selles for me its just going very stale at the lane under wilder and knill

 

[Bell4]

i dont think he will last past the end of october if were not up there challenging next season personally i would like us to make a change this summer but with a lot more thought put in to the decision than last summer with selles for me its just going very stale at the lane under wilder and knill

Why is it going stale under Wilder ?

He’s trying to turn around a squad that was on its arse and was improved terribly during the close season . Not by him btw .

It still needs changing of course - but come on it’s not Wilders fault

 

[Sean Thornton]

Why is it going stale under Wilder ?

He’s trying to turn around a squad that was on its arse and was improved terribly during the close season . Not by him btw .

It still needs changing of course - but come on it’s not Wilders fault

Is he blameless for a similar collapse this season we saw last year?

 

[ThirdGenBlade]

Yes
Yes
And No

My fear is not of the unknown, it's remembering the disasters we've had over the years.

Weir,Adkins,Heath,Clough,Wilson,
Javanovic, Selles etc recently

I also remember managers from years back, Rowley,Sirrel,Haslam,Peters,McEwan.

CW might not be perfect but I'd back him every day of the week given my experience of watching the Blades.

I think calling Clough a disaster is totally out of order. Took over from Weir with us nearly bottom of League 1 - got us to 7th with a 10 win run and 5th the next season plus an FA Cup semi & League Cup semi.

Interesting, and sometimes eccentric, times, but a lot of fun and far from a disaster!

Wilson was OK as well - I’ll give you the rest!

UTB & FTP!

 

[Rodley]

He’ll get the summer and the start of next season.

 

[Silky Sabella]

Not ITK (3rd hand) but apparently there's a full review to be undertaken at season end, inc the managers job.

 

[Lane Ender]

He’ll get the summer and the start of next season.

Can you give me one reason he should stay he has had his time he’s tired and spent ffs let’s move on

 

[luffenhamblade]

Can you give me one reason he should stay he has had his time he’s tired and spent ffs let’s move on

Because if they review at the end of the season and then "release" him, we've lost weeks of crucial prep time for next season. How is that any way to run a club?

 

[Rodley]

Can you give me one reason he should stay he has had his time he’s tired and spent ffs let’s move on

It isn’t happening. He’ll get 10 games into next season.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Agree, makes no sense as summer approaches. Personally, I hope he turns it round, but equally, I know the next step needs to be very different.

 

[Pintor75]

I decided to calm down from Saturday before posting, so here goes. I think they'll give him next season, then see how we are come Christmas, but if it's not going to plan we then get someone else in and they'll need a couple of seasons to get their ideas into place, therefore we're looking at another 3 years, before improvement, my own opinion is especially if we get turned over by Bristol C & Hull we should get rid, let a new manager come in, get to know the players and have a whole summer to build for next season, no bladey blade appointment move on. If this happens then the coaching staff should all go too, no wild punts on someone like Kyle Walker to say " that'll appease the fans", Wilder is a blade through & through it hurts him as much as us when we lose, but he's got the added pressure of knowing this is his last chance of a major job in football, I don't want him having heart attack or being ill through pressure, go back to being the fan that you are Chris and enjoy it again.

 

[Keen Blade]

Absolutely. We'll get stuck in the same cycle for another season unless the owners show some courage .
After the last match its the biggest decision theyll make

If they are serious about progress , they should be quietly thinking of candidates already - but who have they got in the UK with any experience or knowledge of the game to help them ?
They have got themselves hitched to Bettis & Wilder & the whole cohort of their mates.
To such an extent that Rosen - in his Bladey effort to appear that he "gets the club" - tells fans in the fanzone that he's got Billy Sharp in his cross-hairs.
Surprisingly naive thing to say in public.
They are bumbling about in the dark and it's sad to witness.

 

[UddersBlade]

Not ITK (3rd hand) but apparently there's a full review to be undertaken at season end, inc the managers job.

No chance…… did your mate not hear both ‘Bettis’ and ‘Rosen’ singing Wilder’s praises earlier this year. That review has already taken place - Wilder will be here for the start of next season. More likely review will take place in December when he will have to have us comfortably in the Top 8 ( new play off positions).

 

[Bladesince59]

Gone by October unless the EFL change games to 30 mins each way

 

[SBSP]

I fear the playoff extension to 8th means we’ll be stuck with Wilder longer.

Basically everyone apart from the bottom few will still be in playoff contention at Christmas.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Not ITK (3rd hand) but apparently there's a full review to be undertaken at season end, inc the managers job.

‘Business makes future plans shocker’.

I imagine they’re constantly reviewing things, the problem is that so far they don’t seem to know what they’re doing.

 

[Lane Ender]

It isn’t happening. He’ll get 10 games into next season.

What is the point of that?
So he brings in more rammle during the summer and we’re bottom to mid table.
I’m no Wilder hater but he’s finally run out of time nothings forever if we lose at Bristol he got to go with immediate effect

 

[ForgeBlade]

I don't get the "CW is the only man who can do it" mantra, I really don't. It's absolutely in keeping with the attitude some of our fans have of pining for past times. Agricultural football, pints with the lads, up and at 'em, wasn't it so much better in the Bassett era etc etc.

Football clubs have bad spells and change managers all the time. Very few clubs repeatedly go back to the same manager once, let alone twice, based largely on fans' opinions and "well he's one of us, he just gets the club and the city.

A manager's worth is not based on if he supports the club, or likes a beer with the fans, or is a local boy made good. It's results-based, and the results are not good enough. Yes he turned around a truly shite start to the season, but since then, barring a brief purple patch of seemingly scoring 3 goals in every game, we've stagnated. We've repeatedly lost or drawn games from winning positions, performances have been lethargic, substitutions have been easy to predict and counter.

Chris Wilder gave me the best spell as a Blade that I suspect I will ever have. The first spell, from the doldrums of L1 to the top half of the premier league, was genuinely, insanely brilliant. We took it to the biggest clubs in the country and we were never really outclassed or humbled. That first prem season we did not lose in the league to a london club. Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs...they could not beat us. We finished 9th and would have finished higher if not for the pandemic.

But a club can't exist forever on past glories (however hard our neighbours try). In 2026, is Chris Wilder really still the only and best option for us as we look to negotiate a tricky summer? We will lose some of our best players. We have to, to balance the books and not run the risk of financial meltdown and worse. Saying "he's done it before" is irrelevant to me. The game has moved on, and we need to as well.

I can't see the point in sacking him now. This season will peter out to a mediocre finish in the lower 3rd of the league. I think it should be agreed behind the scenes that he will step away after the last game, and the search and recruitment process for his successor should already be underway. Give him a parade round the pitch after the last game to thank him for everything he has done, and then make a clean break. Give the new guy, whoever he is, all of pre-season and the summer window and start completely fresh in August. It might take a couple of years of belt-tightening and mid-table finishes but hopefeully we can then start to moe forward again.

EDIT: I watch very little football outside of United, so no, I have no idea who the prospective replacements should be. I leave that to the people who work in the industry and should be capable of identifying valid replacements.

 

[Bladesince59]

I don't get the "CW is the only man who can do it" mantra, I really don't. It's absolutely in keeping with the attitude some of our fans have of pining for past times. Agricultural football, pints with the lads, up and at 'em, wasn't it so much better in the Bassett era etc etc.

Football clubs have bad spells and change managers all the time. Very few clubs repeatedly go back to the same manager once, let alone twice, based largely on fans' opinions and "well he's one of us, he just gets the club and the city.

A manager's worth is not based on if he supports the club, or likes a beer with the fans, or is a local boy made good. It's results-based, and the results are not good enough. Yes he turned around a truly shite start to the season, but since then, barring a brief purple patch of seemingly scoring 3 goals in every game, we've stagnated. We've repeatedly lost or drawn games from winning positions, performances have been lethargic, substitutions have been easy to predict and counter.

Chris Wilder gave me the best spell as a Blade that I suspect I will ever have. The first spell, from the doldrums of L1 to the top half of the premier league, was genuinely, insanely brilliant. We took it to the biggest clubs in the country and we were never really outclassed or humbled. That first prem season we did not lose in the league to a london club. Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs...they could not beat us. We finished 9th and would have finished higher if not for the pandemic.

But a club can't exist forever on past glories (however hard our neighbours try). In 2026, is Chris Wilder really still the only and best option for us as we look to negotiate a tricky summer? We will lose some of our best players. We have to, to balance the books and not run the risk of financial meltdown and worse. Saying "he's done it before" is irrelevant to me. The game has moved on, and we need to as well.

I can't see the point in sacking him now. This season will peter out to a mediocre finish in the lower 3rd of the league. I think it should be agreed behind the scenes that he will step away after the last game, and the search and recruitment process for his successor should already be underway. Give him a parade round the pitch after the last game to thank him for everything he has done, and then make a clean break. Give the new guy, whoever he is, all of pre-season and the summer window and start completely fresh in August. It might take a couple of years of belt-tightening and mid-table finishes but hopefeully we can then start to moe forward again.

EDIT: I watch very little football outside of United, so no, I have no idea who the prospective replacements should be. I leave that to the people who work in the industry and should be capable of identifying valid replacements.

I go along with everything you say here except I am not sure we have any "best players". UTB