All those who didnt want Wilder back

[Snake]

It's not just Blades fans, I think its football fans in general in this modern wibbly wobbly t'interweb world. Everybody has an opinion - often a strong one based on a colossal amount of information available to us to process and form this opinion. We are entitled to our opinion and we are damn bloody sure that we are going to give it! I've noticed on lots of things - not just football, that people are generally now far more black and white - something/somebody is either fantastic or crap. The middle common sense ground seems to have gone out of the window. So some think Wilder is rubbish and don't want him. Some think Wilder is the saviour and answer to our woes. Same logic with Bindon right now and to different degrees, many other players over the past few seasons.

Back in the day, if you didn't go to the match your opinion was often disregarded ...... "tha dint guh, shut thi fuckin gob". The anonymity that the internet offers doesn't help either. People can sit in their armchair and adopt whatever persona they desire at any particular time, safe in the knowledge that they can wind up or say wtf they want with no come back.

Oh well, I suppose they call it 'progress'

 

[Tarqs]

I think you will find that Wilder was well aware Tanganga is a centre back, it's just we did not have a right back - not sure Seriki is a true right back but i personally love to see him getting forward.

Well, we did have a right back... the same right back that's played right back everytime he's played for the Blades... and is currently playing right back now.

Wilder dropped him because, in his own words 'he was part of the losing team'.

 

[Tom Bott]

"He’s doing a great job at the moment but come on - he tried to continue with the 1 up front route when majority of us could see it’s not working and need 2 up top!

Oh, low and behold recent results and we are scoring goals!

Question Marks still on tactics, substitutions etc - such as leicester he went back to 1 up top and went defensive which gave us a nervous second half. (Let’s not forget play off finals - we need to be able to retain the lead).
Against Stoke finally showed if we continue in the same vain as the first half we can win games more comfortable."

I'm amazed more teams don't try this revolutionary 4-4-2 system, then every team could win every game comfortably.

Wilder/Knill would never have thought to try this if we hadn't told him.

He's lucky to have us.

What's our plan B for him though when our 4-4-2 gets found out.

 

[blade too long]

Try using the mirror if you want a chat with yourself

would love to but I dont have a reflection

 

[blade too long]

The best manager we have ever had is peak Wilder. Those 3–4 years in League One up to top-half Premier League were incredible. Then he had a meltdown and lost the pñot

so nothing to do with Covid, not being blessed with a bordroom full ofbillionaires ,, we rely on our crowd elevating our bargain buys into heroes
the empty souless grounds skowed the gulf in class beteen 20 m pound players and 60 to 100m pound players, we never stood a chance

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

Look North tonight. No wonder they call it Look Leeds.

 

[Pintor75]

View attachment 227017Look North tonight. No wonder they call it Look Leeds.

Funny how when L..ds lose they just say L..d utd lost ,but when they win or draw it's interviews etc, bias bbc

 

[AWetFlannel]

I'm amazed more teams don't try this revolutionary 4-4-2 system, then every team could win every game comfortably.

Wilder/Knill would never have thought to try this if we hadn't told him.

He's lucky to have us.

What's our plan B for him though when our 4-4-2 gets found out.

"Just play Brooks on the left so he can cross with his left foot, isn't it obvious?!?!?!"

 

[Kona]

Until he fails then you want him gone.

Surely that should be a consideration for any manager?

 

[Kona]

I wasn't particularly wanting to achieve anything.
but at the time of his return there seemed to be quite an amount of displeasure in certain quarters. Some of it quite vehement against him.
I'm ok with anyone having opinions, it's their prerogative.
But ,in my opinion a lot of what was posted was unwarranted.
Wilder over a few seasons took us by the scruff of the neck and gave us back the club we had lost for too long.
Ok He made mistakes. All managers\coaches do.
But he took us on a journey we'd been waiting for for a long time.
He left\was sacked.
Then came back and was within 15 min minutes of getting us back to the promised land.
Then was sacked again.
To be replaced by someone who was WAY out of his depth. The result of which fucked us royally.
Thankfully (in my opinion) he returned.
To a deal of scorn from a section of fans.
My post was a genuine question to those who doubted the validity of him coming back for a third time.
Only time will tell if it was a good or bad decision.

Fair enough, DJ. I certainly agree with the point about unwarranted comments. Even though we had some cracking times under Wilder, I stand by my view that I was happy for us to try a change in direction. Unfortunately, the choice of manager didn't match where we wanted to go.

 

[Snake]

"Just play Brooks on the left so he can cross with his left foot, isn't it obvious?!?!?!"

ah I see, simple init! So what about the Brooks/Seriki partnership that is being so productive?.... you know, just sayin'

 

[AWetFlannel]

I wasn't particularly wanting to achieve anything.
but at the time of his return there seemed to be quite an amount of displeasure in certain quarters. Some of it quite vehement against him.
I'm ok with anyone having opinions, it's their prerogative.
But ,in my opinion a lot of what was posted was unwarranted.
Wilder over a few seasons took us by the scruff of the neck and gave us back the club we had lost for too long.
Ok He made mistakes. All managers\coaches do.
But he took us on a journey we'd been waiting for for a long time.
He left\was sacked.
Then came back and was within 15 min minutes of getting us back to the promised land.
Then was sacked again.
To be replaced by someone who was WAY out of his depth. The result of which fucked us royally.
Thankfully (in my opinion) he returned.
To a deal of scorn from a section of fans.
My post was a genuine question to those who doubted the validity of him coming back for a third time.
Only time will tell if it was a good or bad decision.

Agree with the sentiment regarding Wilder, but your OP is childish and toxic. We need the fan base to come together, not more of this tedious shit.

 

[CornwallBlade]

I think it's always been the way that there are some negative posters, but as you say, more recently its been noticable how some like to try and shut down any counter discussion rather than allow opinions.

Like yourself, I dip in and out of this forum nowadays, I certainly know when to contribute and when not to, Bamford was a good example. I thought it was a no lose short term signing which was of course a little bit of a gamble given his fitness recently, but if we could get him fit and firing, it was a no brainer in terms of his quality. I read the Bamford threads and just couldn't be arsed to post.

Tis the way of social media I’m afraid. Some come on here to debate and seek views on all things Blades related. Others post “their truth” and scream and shout if anyone dares to offer an alternative view - its pernicious and I dream if the day when we can go back to being tolerant of others viewpoints - best way to learn I find……

 

[SwissBlade]

Tis the way of social media I’m afraid. Some come on here to debate and seek views on all things Blades related. Others post “their truth” and scream and shout if anyone dares to offer an alternative view - its pernicious and I dream if the day when we can go back to being tolerant of others viewpoints - best way to learn I find……

100%

The crazy thing is that unless they're in agreement with my viewpoint, they're generally wrong anyway. So they've wasted their lives on shit opinions of wrongness

 

[Tarqs]

so nothing to do with Covid, not being blessed with a bordroom full ofbillionaires ,, we rely on our crowd elevating our bargain buys into heroes
the empty souless grounds skowed the gulf in class beteen 20 m pound players and 60 to 100m pound players, we never stood a chance

What happened the season after then when the ground was full?

 

[blade too long]

What happened the season after then when the ground was full?

we played in the championship under Heckingbottom and lost out to forest in play off semi

 

[The Crab]

What happened the season after then when the ground was full?

I get sick of hearing about everything being blamed on Covid.

My festive bake isn’t very warm this morning. Must be Covid.

We talk like we’re the only club that was affected by it

 

[GrunkyPeep]

I get sick of hearing about everything being blamed on Covid.

My festive bake isn’t very warm this morning. Must be Covid.

We talk like we’re the only club that was affected by it

You seem awfully negative this morning Mr Crab.

Any chance you might be suffering from Covid?

 

[The Crab]

You seem awfully negative this morning Mr Crab.

Any chance you might be suffering from Covid?

I think it was the first mouthful of my festive bake that triggered my inner Michael Douglas. The thing was colder than Elvis.

Fair shout from your good self though. I’m in better fettle now

 

[GrunkyPeep]

I think it was the first mouthful of my festive bake that triggered my inner Michael Douglas. The thing was colder than Elvis.

Fair shout from your good self though. I’m in better fettle now

A big Covidulations on feeling better!

Reminds me of that bit by the Aussie comedian Steve Hughes.

"Only in England could you get a cold sausage roll and a warm coke from the same place"

 

[Tarqs]

we played in the championship under Heckingbottom and lost out to forest in play off semi

Must be honest, I thought I went to games the season after the european challenge failure... Didn't realise the game was basically done for the season from a spectator perspective.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

european challenge failure

And some still stick up for Wilder after that failure.

 

[Balham]

I didn't want Wilder back because I thought he'd run out of ideas and I was beyond disappointed after the play off final, both in terms of the tactical decisions in-match and the disappearing act afterwards. I also thought the Banner Cross incident was crass.

However, just like I have with Patrick Bamford, I'm warming to the idea that maybe I was wrong to write him off. At the moment he seems to be getting his mojo back and is enjoying the challenge of turning the club around. It's sort of similar to when he was appointed in 2016: the club was at a low ebb and needed someone to give it a kick up the arse. Wilder's your man for that.

Wilder dropped him because, in his own words 'he was part of the losing team'.

Which is demonstrably nonsense as Seriki was one of the first to be dropped by Sellés:

Which is not only ridiculous, it's also complete bollocks. Seriki was dropped for Godfrey as soon as the latter signed.

The 6 match losing start:
United 1-4 Bristol C: Seriki starts, subbed off on 74 mins at 1-4
Swansea 1-0 United: Seriki starts and plays the full match
United 0-1 Millwall: Seriki brought on for the last 9 minutes at 0-1
Boro 1-0 United: unused sub
Ipswich 5-0 United: Seriki brought on for the last 7 minutes at 0-5
United 0-1 Charlton: Seriki brought on for the last 23 minutes at 0-0

The only ever presents are Cooper, Peck and O'Hare. Campbell has started 12 and come on as a sub in 2; Tanganga and (amazingly) McGuinness have started every match they've been a United player for - 11 and 10 respectively.

 

[Tarqs]

I didn't want Wilder back because I thought he'd run out of ideas and I was beyond disappointed after the play off final, both in terms of the tactical decisions in-match and the disappearing act afterwards. I also thought the Banner Cross incident was crass.

However, just like I have with Patrick Bamford, I'm warming to the idea that maybe I was wrong to write him off. At the moment he seems to be getting his mojo back and is enjoying the challenge of turning the club around. It's sort of similar to when he was appointed in 2016: the club was at a low ebb and needed someone to give it a kick up the arse. Wilder's your man for that.


Which is demonstrably nonsense as Seriki was one of the first to be dropped by Sellés:

Which bit is nonsense? Wilder said that himself in an interview when questioned about Seriki.

Or, are you saying Wilder was talking nonsense

 

[Balham]

Which bit is nonsense? Wilder said that himself in an interview when questioned about Seriki.

Or, are you saying Wilder was talking nonsense

The latter

 

[djbaldken]

Agree with the sentiment regarding Wilder, but your OP is childish and toxic. We need the fan base to come together, not more of this tedious shit.

Please point out what is toxic, ie poisonous, and childish about the OP.
Just so I don't have to be mortified to be posting anymore tedious shit on here.
As if we don't get enough of it already!

 

[AWetFlannel]

Please point out what is toxic, ie poisonous, and childish about the OP.
Just so I don't have to be mortified to be posting anymore tedious shit on here.
As if we don't get enough of it already!

"Where are you now?
How good was that?"

You are calling out members of our fan base for not being loyal enough to Wilder on his return. Many fans that left the Lane jubilant after that performance ready to celebrate a win, were then scalded by you, dragging them back into this tedious debate over Wilder. THAT is what you chose to take from our victory, a chance to stick it to fellow blades.

I've always been a big fan of Wilder and find those that have developed an irrational bias against him strange, so I usually try not to compound it. I try not to push people into moronic extreme camps. Topping your OP off with "Wilder of Nazareth" then further makes it seem that those who like the gaffer are cultish and extreme themselves.

 

[djbaldken]

"Where are you now?
How good was that?"

You are calling out members of our fan base for not being loyal enough to Wilder on his return. Many fans that left the Lane jubilant after that performance ready to celebrate a win, were then scalded by you, dragging them back into this tedious debate over Wilder. THAT is what you chose to take from our victory, a chance to stick it to fellow blades.

I've always been a big fan of Wilder and find those that have developed an irrational bias against him strange, so I usually try not to compound it. I try not to push people into moronic extreme camps. Topping your OP off with "Wilder of Nazareth" then further makes it seem that those who like the gaffer are cultish and extreme themselves.

'Where are you now' was NOT me calling out anyone. It was asking a question of those critical of Wilder ( who you are a fan of) . The follow up being ' how good was that' was asking how can anyone criticise a performance like that?
It was not 'scalding ' anyone. It was not STICKING it to anyone.
I'm old enough to remember a certain player being called Edwards of Nazareth. Was that cultish and extreme too?
If that's your opinion of my post fine. You are entitled to that opinion. We all have them and they are often different.
Have a good day. X

 

[AWetFlannel]

'Where are you now' was NOT me calling out anyone. It was asking a question of those critical of Wilder ( who you are a fan of) . The follow up being ' how good was that' was asking how can anyone criticise a performance like that?
It was not 'scalding ' anyone. It was not STICKING it to anyone.
I'm old enough to remember a certain player being called Edwards of Nazareth. Was that cultish and extreme too?
If that's your opinion of my post fine. You are entitled to that opinion. We all have them and they are often different.
Have a good day. X

Surely the reaction to your OP, from those critical of Wilder and those that are big fans (like myself), should tell you that you've got it wrong.

Multiple people have taken it as though you were calling out those critical of Wilder, and it is exactly how it reads. If you meant to do otherwise, you've got a bizarre way of showing it. I genuinely can't believe you're denying that was the intention. I've never seen the phrase "where are you now?" used in a context other than to call someone out.

I think football fans should be cultish towards their team, manager and players, most of the time. I chant his name at games and I'd buy him a pint if I saw him out. But putting that cultish behaviour within a decisive, petty OP just divides the two camps even further.

Have a good day n'all, especially tonight when we can hopefully grab another three points. UTB.

 

[blade too long]

I get sick of hearing about everything being blamed on Covid.

My festive bake isn’t very warm this morning. Must be Covid.

We talk like we’re the only club that was affected by it

of course we were affected by it , chelsea and the like have sub benches we can only dream of
our players only get close to a lot of prem clubs when lifted by our fans
same for a lot of clubs , Sunderlands crowd lifts them as their start shows ,
we need the 10 to 20 per cent boost being in front of our fans gives us