Looks like ST Sales are up on last few years..

[sheffielder]

But you'd admit that it's Harry's decision to make not the club.
If he wants to go our only alternative is to keep a player who doesn't want to be here and get even less for him in any future transfer.

I have never said it's not Harry's decision have I? I am just hoping he makes a better choice than Wolves and think he should wait for a better opportunity.

 

[Derby_Blade]

This is nonsense. You think someone is going to sign him in the championship for £3-4 million and not play him?
If he goes to a championship club he will play which is something we can't offer for at least another season and possibly longer.

Exactly, the only clubs that can afford him, he wouldn't get into the first team. So better for him to play first team for us.

 

[1889]

He's 21, the Championship is hardly the Footballers Holy Grail, if no established Premiership team is in for him then why would he leave? Next season at Bramall Lane is the most highly anticipated I can recall for many a year, HM has an emotional investment in Sheffield United, is hugely regarded by everyone associated with the club and is surely its future captain.

I don't know how his wages compare to others, but I think he should be one of the top earners at the club. He's an under 21 international and won player of the year acknowledgements from fellow professionals and fans alike. In any business, the top performers earn more than the also rans and that serves as incentive for others to strive to match their achievements and consequently command a similar salary. If a Utd have any ambition, the number one priority should be convincing him that his immediate future is best served at Bramall Lane......because if there was a better, cheaper replacement out there, Wolves would surely be after them and not Maguire.

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[Bladesman]

Are they still doing Blades Memberships?

I have not bothered to go and check yet.

 

[alcoblade]

Starting with Mick Jones, they've spent 47 years selling the family silver and that policy has never worked. They start acting like a proper club and build a team around players like Maguire and they get my £450 for a ST.

given the losses constantly realised by clubs like ours, you realise that you are asking for someone else to pump in millions before you justify pumping in your 450 quid?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Exactly, the only clubs that can afford him, he wouldn't get into the first team. So better for him to play first team for us.

I don't believe that statement is true, I think there are teams in the Championship that can afford him and he'd certainly play.

 

[alcoblade]

I'm going to renew my season ticket, and those of the family, under the old fashioned notion of supporting my club.



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[Darthblade]

But you'd admit that it's Harry's decision to make not the club.
If he wants to go our only alternative is to keep a player who doesn't want to be here and get even less for him in any future transfer.

It is the Club's decision HOW MUCH to accept for him, if indeed he wants to go. I don't believe we should accept anything less than silly money for him, because we've already been told we don't have to do so any more. ( unless that was a lie by the new Board !! )
By silly money, I mean £4m to £5m. I know he's not worth that, but if somebody wants him so badly they will pay it. We should also have add-on clauses, unlike previous incompetent deals we've done in the past.

If Harry wants to go but we cannot agree a fee we should play him this year ( he's under contract ) and if necessary take the compensation we would get for him next summer. He will need to perform to put himself in the "shop window" because if he was rubbish all season, nobody would want him next summer !!

We need to destroy the fact that we are known as a selling Club and that we are a "cheap" option for buyers, which has been the case, as somebody put it , since Mick Jones ......
UTB & FTP

 

[alcoblade]

We need to destroy the fact that we are known as a selling Club and that we are a "cheap" option for buyers, which has been the case, as somebody put it , since Mick Jones ......
UTB & FTP

In my time, I'd dispute the idea that we are more prone to selling players, more cheaply,than any other club in similar circumstances. It being repeated so often doesn't make it a fact.

The obvious fuck ups were the Deane sale (though despite the often repeated myth that we sold him cheaply, we got the 2nd highest fee in UK history at the time), and the Blackman sale last season. Most other sales were a result of prior overstretching - eg. Beattie.

And for every Kyle Walker, there's a Lee Morris.

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[Zanzibar]

It is the Club's decision HOW MUCH to accept for him, if indeed he wants to go. I don't believe we should accept anything less than silly money for him, because we've already been told we don't have to do so any more. ( unless that was a lie by the new Board !! )
By silly money, I mean £4m to £5m. I know he's not worth that, but if somebody wants him so badly they will pay it. We should also have add-on clauses, unlike previous incompetent deals we've done in the past.

If Harry wants to go but we cannot agree a fee we should play him this year ( he's under contract ) and if necessary take the compensation we would get for him next summer. He will need to perform to put himself in the "shop window" because if he was rubbish all season, nobody would want him next summer !!


UTB & FTP

Of course they would!
Do you think that only you have seen him play well?

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

It is the Club's decision HOW MUCH to accept for him, if indeed he wants to go. I don't believe we should accept anything less than silly money for him, because we've already been told we don't have to do so any more. ( unless that was a lie by the new Board !! )
By silly money, I mean £4m to £5m. I know he's not worth that, but if somebody wants him so badly they will pay it. We should also have add-on clauses, unlike previous incompetent deals we've done in the past.

If Harry wants to go but we cannot agree a fee we should play him this year ( he's under contract ) and if necessary take the compensation we would get for him next summer. He will need to perform to put himself in the "shop window" because if he was rubbish all season, nobody would want him next summer !!

We need to destroy the fact that we are known as a selling Club and that we are a "cheap" option for buyers, which has been the case, as somebody put it , since Mick Jones ......
UTB & FTP

If Southampton with £44.5M min coming in next season can't stop selling how do we?

 

[finlaytheblade]

i see lots of so called blades at it again are we a one player club I have been a season ticket holder since 1965/6and seen lots of players be sold. I think at this time there is more chance of keeping our best players than previously but every player has a price{ even man utd will sell if the price is right} harry as far as we know is still in talks with club lets not get carried away HE S in talks!!..with blades.
we are building a team and I don't think cloughie would have come if his best players are sold agaist his wishes,he will have got some assurances on that score.
come blades buy your season tickets and get behind cloughie and the club. I think the futures bright whether harry stays or goes (best of luck to him if he goes).

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I think £1-2 million would get him, if he wants to go. Keeping him if he doesn't want to stay isn't going to happen.

 

[metalblade]

Last time I knew, you haven't had one in years?

You and a few others don't know much, no not had one since we dropped into league one so what ? that was due to serious illness not that I should need to explain to the likes of you so please kindly do one.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Some of the excuses people use for not buying a ST are embarrassing. If you can't afford it, are ill or live too far away...those are all understandable reasons...but to say you won't buy one if we sell x ...or unless we buy y .....that's just daft.

I'd like it if - for once - we had an ambitious Board who put some serious investment in. But I'll buy a ST regardless, because I'm a fan and want to be there...hopefully to see us win something.

 

[metalblade]

Some of the excuses people use for not buying a ST are embarrassing. If you can't afford it, are ill or live too far away...those are all understandable reasons...but to say you won't buy one if we sell x ...or unless we buy y .....that's just daft.

I'd like it if - for once - we had an ambitious Board who put some serious investment in. But I'll buy a ST regardless, because I'm a fan and want to be there...hopefully to see us win something.

I don't think it is just case of if we sell player X or buy player Y we have lost thousands of ST holders over the last few years, we have been told there is game changing investment now before taking up the offer to returning Blades those fans want to see a commitment from the club and a change in outlook. If Harry is sold so what, would anyone be too upset if the club held out for over £2m now if he was sold for a derisory £1m then they would have every right to be pissed off and an undislosed fee would not cut it either. Like we are constantly reminded all clubs sell at some point but not just to the first offer. If a £1m is all that is offered then we may as well hold him to his contract and take the compensation next June, he will still need to try is best for us or he could well miss out on a decent move that is of course if that is what he wants, as yet no one has said he has rejected our offer.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

I don't think it is just case of if we sell player X or buy player Y we have lost thousands of ST holders over the last few years, we have been told there is game changing investment now before taking up the offer to returning Blades those fans want to see a commitment from the club and a change in outlook. If Harry is sold so what, would anyone be too upset if the club held out for over £2m now if he was sold for a derisory £1m then they would have every right to be pissed off and an undislosed fee would not cut it either. Like we are constantly reminded all clubs sell at some point but not just to the first offer. If a £1m is all that is offered then we may as well hold him to his contract and take the compensation next June, he will still need to try is best for us or he could well miss out on a decent move that is of course if that is what he wants, as yet no one has said he has rejected our offer.

I agree with much of that but it doesn't alter my position as a fan. I've been as pissed off as anyone with the Boards we've had in my time supporting the Blades. And the signs are the current Board is little better than the ones that have gone before. But I support SUFC not the Board. I buy a ST & attend matches because I'm a fan and want to be there and hopefully see us win. And when we do win - and sometimes even when we don't - it's great to be at the Lane.

 

[alcoblade]

Metal makes some valid points, but overall it comes back to the same thing, some people demand gargantuan investment from others in order to justify a 300 quid outlay by themselves. That's not support as I understand it.

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[metalblade]

Like every thing in life people are prepared to pay more for quality goods be it a house, a car, designer clothes ............ football is no different that is why we have category A,B & C games. The fact is we are still paying as much to see us scuffling around in League one now as we paid to see Championship football at a time when most have less disposable income than they had in 2009.

 

[1889]

I don't want them to sell Maguire, but if they sold him and threw in Scougall, Baxter and Murphy I'd still be there next season. Sheffield Utd are the only team I have ever supported or will ever support or have any interest in. My support is unconditional because I enjoy going to Bramall Lane it's about the experience, the atmosphere and family tradition I suppose. But it's not dependent on them retaining the services of anyone, if players want to chase the money there's little we can do. If I said, if they sell Maguire that's it, the only one who'd miss out would be me, because theres one thing for certain, Harry Maguire wouldn't give a shiney shite if I bought a ticket or not.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Like every thing in life people are prepared to pay more for quality goods be it a house, a car, designer clothes ............ football is no different that is why we have category A,B & C games. The fact is we are still paying as much to see us scuffling around in League one now as we paid to see Championship football at a time when most have less disposable income than they had in 2009.

Hmm....completely disagree with that. You appear to be mixing up being a fan with being a consumer. I support the Blades & would rather pay £20 to watch us playing shite in League 1 than pay £20 to watch Man City playing champagne football in the Premiership.

 

[alcoblade]

Hmm....completely disagree with that. You appear to be mixing up being a fan with being a consumer. I support the Blades & would rather pay £20 to watch us playing shite in League 1 than pay £20 to watch Man City playing champagne football in the Premiership.

Exactly this. What's more, at 300 quid a season ticket we are at the cheaper end of pricing.

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[metalblade]

Hmm....completely disagree with that. You appear to be mixing up being a fan with being a consumer. I support the Blades & would rather pay £20 to watch us playing shite in League 1 than pay £20 to watch Man City playing champagne football in the Premiership.

Can you explain why 34000+ turned up at Wembley yet only half that number at the lane a few day earlier for a League one game

 

[alcoblade]

Can you explain why 34000+ turned up at Wembley yet only half that number at the lane a few day earlier for a League one game

Because most football fans are plastic. You didn't really need that explaining?

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[metalblade]

By that logic only the very few fans who go to every home and away game are not plastic then hmmmmm ? More Blades will always turn out when we are playing better opposition, are they all so called "plastic" ?

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Can you explain why 34000+ turned up at Wembley yet only half that number at the lane a few day earlier for a League one game

This happens with every club in football. QPR took 40k to Wembley but averaged less than us during the season - despite being towards the top of the division above. Toytown & Orient took far more than they averaged. It's the same every year, whatever the team. Many family members and part-timers go to the big games, particularly at Wembley. This is a completely different point to the one we were debating.

 

[alcoblade]

By that logic only the very few fans who go to every home and away game are not plastic then hmmmmm ? More Blades will always turn out when we are playing better opposition, are they all so called "plastic" ?

Yep, despite the protestations you get, some really are bigger blades than others, (sorry and all that).

In the end, it's the consumer V supporter debate, raised above. Of course, it's a spectrum and not a two sided coin, but it's still that.

People like Deano and me are out and out supporters. 17,000 of those at Wembley, and your good self, are more of a consumer.

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[metalblade]

Yep, despite the protestations you get, some really are bigger blades than others, (sorry and all that).

In the end, it's the consumer V supporter debate, raised above. Of course, it's a spectrum and not a two sided coin, but it's still that.

People like Deano and me are out and out supporters. 17,000 of those at Wembley, and your good self, are more of a consumer.

UTB

If it is all about being a bigger Blade you have a very strange idea of what a supporter is. Since 1889 more numbers attend higher profile games always have always will, and plastic wasn't around in 1889.

 

[alcoblade]

If it is all about being a bigger Blade you have a very strange idea of what a supporter is. Since 1889 more numbers attend higher profile games always have always will, and plastic wasn't around in 1889.

It really was, and always has been in football.

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[judge]

If it is all about being a bigger Blade you have a very strange idea of what a supporter is. Since 1889 more numbers attend higher profile games always have always will, and plastic wasn't around in 1889.

do you just come on here to start arguments with people ? Youve claimed for years the reason you dont go to games is mccabe , now its cos youve been ill .make your bloody mind up