CONFIRMED Selles Sacked - He’s Gone.

[South stand tut]

Why Mousinho?

Thought it was just me thinking that !

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Mousinho.. yet we ended up with Wilder. Embarrassing

Cry more. You'd have wanted Mousinho out by Halloween anyway.

 

[Nedski]

Selles is upset and hurt, he was given a verbal assurance he’d get at least The Charlton and Oxford games during the International break but a combination of the second half surrender to Ipswich and a player revolt lead to this.

Board was split on whether to re-appoint Wilder or look at other targets but have decided they need someone in to hit the ground running, rather than go through a 2 week interview process. Other names being seriously considered were John Mousinho and Steven Gerrard.

I feel bad for Selles as he seems like a genuine, decent guy. Unfortunately found himself in the same position as Jokanovic - Wilder's DNA runs through the club from top to bottom and makes it nigh on impossible for someone to come in and change the fabric of the club in such a short time. When Selles challenged a few players and their professionalism in the pre match hotel, it was pretty clear there were gonna be issues with Wilder's boys.

I'm hoping Selles' signings (and hopefully a modern DoF) can help to create a blend of the best parts of Wilder's and Selles' systems and we start smashing teams instead of reverting to the safety first approach and spending 70 minutes hitting it down the channels.

 

[metalblade]

Fan sentiment sounds like the tail is wagging the dog.

 

[metalblade]

WTF has this Mousinho guy done?

 

[Blade58]

Not Wilder, cos if it was he would be appointed immediately

Most media saying it is

 

[Blade58]

Just been told.

Compensation package being negotiated. Announcement on Monday,

they hope a new guy is in place for Charlton but more likely in time for Oxford, but no consensus on who it should be as yet.

I think he’ll be announced far sooner than Oxford

 

[JohnDenver]

God above no! If Wilder gets appointed we can forget about progression, ambition or any sense of a plan to develop SUFC into a stable PL outfit

Think those nice hopes and dreams were already withering when we hung Selles out to dry early season.

Everything points to the owners being unserious

 

[Silky Sabella]

Cheers

Sorry

 

[JPBrods]

I do feel sorry for him, club statement wasn't a soft landing either. He's 42 and this role may have killed his managerial career. I did like how he wasn't afraid to hide from the criticism but just not the right man at all and what the board originally saw in him perhaps we will never know.

 

[Keen Blade]

This is what they should have done prior to his dismissal. Explain to Wilder this is the direction we want to go(DOF-Coach). And we need you to part of that strategy/process for the next 12 months. And, here’s a golden handshake for doing so.

Yeh but they never got a DoF
So they fucked up.

 

[Derek1889]

I do feel sorry for him, club statement wasn't a soft landing either. He's 42 and this role may have killed his managerial career. I did like how he wasn't afraid to hide from the criticism but just not the right man at all and what the board originally saw in him perhaps we will never know.

Im not sorry. They get paid a hell of alot for what they do. Thats the nature of the beast. Football is a results game. 5 games 5 defeats amd doesnt look like getting any better so good riddance. Good look to him in future like but wasn't good enough for us end off

 

[Tongeincheek]

Leaked footage from the COH negotiation table today…

 

[bladesmanluke]

Hes not coming back

He's coming back

 

[HuddersfieldBlade]

Who makes this shit up? David Weir??

 

[jt64]

Needed to go. Would take any of the boring retread suggestions (Cooper, Dyche etc) over Wilder back

 

[TJ blade]

He's coming back

 

[Keen Blade]

Wilder in the steady the ship/keep us up whilst the board hopefully put plans in place. CW to DoF, Mousinho head coach in the summer

CW could have been the ideal DoF - I'm sure I heard that CoH had discussed it with him - but it looks like he & Bettis threw that idea out - these owners are never going to get a grip of this club until the 'Bettis & Wilder axis of power' has gone.
I don't say that's a bad or a good thing.

But they have just learned what they definitely can't do ...
Offload one & not the other and then compound their structural error by appointing a mediocre coach AND failing to appoint a senior football man who commands respect as a DoF.

Most of us could have told them that what they did in the summer was a half-cocked job which was bound to be a disaster.

 

[Keen Blade]

If true, that Wilder was only prioritised to avoid interview process, then Assume it would only short term contract with a possible performance related extension?

Wouldn't mind taking a look at Mousinho at end of season if things don't work out with Wilder mk 3.

Gerrard on the other hand..

I don't think it's helpful to look at the long-term
We could be in any one of 3 leagues by then.
All the owners can do at the moment is try to avoid L1.
And Wilder has the perfect excuse for failure , since it's now not his squad , not having done the recruitment in the window.

What an absolute car-crash

 

[Blackheath Blade]

I don’t want Wilder back, he’s a busted flush here, the thought process of this board so far has been fucking atrocious!

Fully agree. Although the team amassed 92 points last season, most of the performances would have you searching for the beta blockers while we hung on for most of a game with a one goal lead.
Alternatively, the style of play would send a glass eye to sleep. Passing along the back four for a few minutes then back to the goalkeeper, no flair, no pace, hardly any shots on goal when the opportunity arose. It was fucking boring most of the time but hey ho, lets welcome Wilder to walk back into the club weaving his own brand of magic.
You couldn't make this shit up.

 

[1987]

I don't think it's helpful to look at the long-term
We could be in any one of 3 leagues by then.
All the owners can do at the moment is try to avoid L1.
And Wilder has the perfect excuse for failure , since it's now not his squad , not having done the recruitment in the window.

What an absolute car-crash

Why would he come back to fail?

 

[Keen Blade]

It's been a monumental cock up. Embarrassing, but the owners have got it right in the end - hope they continue to do so

They've now put themselves in a position of having no choice.

Wilder & Bettis can now say :

We don't care how much this business cost you.
We don't care how many shares you've got.
We don't care how many foreign based directors are on your feckin stupid bickering board.

You've shown your arse and you've been handed it by the EFL Championship.

We , Big Chris & Little Steve ,
We run this feckin club now.

So keep your feckin nose out and shove your Ai where the sun don't shine.

Until you are ready to commit huge resources into structuring the management of this club in a modern way , just get to fuck.

Whether that's a good or a bad thing will now unravel before our very eyes ,
probably in a "typical Blades" fashion.

 

[Snowflake]

I don't think it's helpful to look at the long-term
We could be in any one of 3 leagues by then.
All the owners can do at the moment is try to avoid L1.
And Wilder has the perfect excuse for failure , since it's now not his squad , not having done the recruitment in the window.

What an absolute car-crash

Many are left from his squad blast season.

 

[Keen Blade]

Why would he come back to fail?

I'm not saying he would , but in his two previous incarnations he's had a hand in recruitment.
Of course , his love for the club is strong and will probably carry the day.

I'd love to know whether he was told in the summer that he might get a phonecall if the new guy was rubbish

 

[Keen Blade]

Many are left from his squad blast season.

Yeh , but not his big mate Robbo

 

[Snowflake]

Yeh , but not his big mate Robbo

…so he has an even better defence ?

 

[steve26272]

, rather than go through a 2 week interview process. Other names being seriously considered were John Mousinho and Steven Gerrard.

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why does it take 2 weeks to interview?
Sound him out thro agent
Meet to get to know, can we work together
So much public knowledge, they have to trust the football people

Mousinho would be good, but that had to happen in June, giving him time to settle

We don’t have that time

Wilder can start tomorrow and it will be as you were, winning games
Sadly as you were will probably also include the style of play

 

[Keen Blade]

I’m sorry. You can’t be upset after you have 2 weeks to work with the players and turn in the most abject surrender on the second half. We got PUMPED.

They were not buying anything he was selling.

He never tried to change the approach which created zero and also was unable to restrict the opposition.

We won 0% of the games and you could argue we have turned in maybe 90 minutes of decent football over the 6 games. The emperor had no clothes.


The COH statement is weak though. Mentioned fan sentiment as a reason for getting rid. You can’t blame the fans when you left Selles to start the season with RND at centreback and 1 winger of potentially championship calibre in the squad. It was 1) the appointment of an under qualified guy to the position he wasn’t ready for.
2) not giving him any of the tools to succeed. They should own that.

You are so right.
CoH are a weak-minded bunch.
What's the point of mentioning fan sentiment ?
They feckin need to own this perfectly predictable disaster.
And now , in a crisis , they've had to go cap in hand to the obstacle they wanted to remove.
It's feckin laughable.
So now , they are another season away from the DoF / head coach structure which they rightly wanted to implement but got warned-off by Wilder and subsequently Bettis.
If they didn't have a senior candidate ready to be DoF , they should never have sacked Wilder until they got one.
They are really incompetent.
And now they want to share responsibility for the Selles sacking with a few hundred fans at Portman Road !
Pathetic

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

Fully agree. Although the team amassed 92 points last season, most of the performances would have you searching for the beta blockers while we hung on for most of a game with a one goal lead.
Alternatively, the style of play would send a glass eye to sleep. Passing along the back four for a few minutes then back to the goalkeeper, no flair, no pace, hardly any shots on goal when the opportunity arose. It was fucking boring most of the time but hey ho, lets welcome Wilder to walk back into the club weaving his own brand of magic.
You couldn't make this shit up.

Unfortunately,summed it up in a nutshell. You will not convince some of the dyed in the wool Wilder supporters on here tho. They still live in Wilder mark 1 era . Sellers was hopeless and thrown under the wheels by incompetent owners (and a new scouting team). I hope Wilder does well in his Terminator role with some stability and results to boot,I can’t see him changing style,tactical awareness,positioning to Thomas Frank flexibility,but hey ho a lot on here will settle for it.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Footage from the sacking today of Reuben at Sheffield United.
His last words to the American owners.
Heartbreaking to watch.