Beating us would cost Hull £25m / eligibility criteria.

[highpeakblade]

Have just been reading a very interesting article about Hull City and the possibility of European football for whoever wins the F.A Cup semi final and although the title maybe a little miss-leading never the less it is true because certain eligibility criteria need to be met in order to participate in the Europa League, one of these being the financial status of the club in which teams are only allowed a deficit of £4.1m. The figures have been looked at and in Hull's case this would leave the club with a staggering £25.2m that the board would need to invest in order to participate in the Europa League next year.

What with everything going on and Hull's Chairman threatening to "walk away" should he not be able to change the clubs name to "Hull Tigers" it would be interesting to see what happened if Hull did beat us. Would the fans be fickle enough to forgive him and let him change the name in order to secure £25m investment into the club and a place in Europe?

It seems we are in a much rosier financial position since the arrival of HRH therefore when we beat hull however bags of other regulations / red tape surround the whole thing including UEFA licenses etc all can be found in the pdf file below.

If I would have heard anyone talking about Europe back in September I would have told them to sit down and stop talking a load of B*ll&&ks!

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles.../Regulations/01/94/62/40/1946240_DOWNLOAD.pdf

 

[Ted Danson]

Arsenal will fuck it up for us one way or another anyway, they'll either lose to Wigan or finish 5th.

 

[Ted Danson]

We would still have to beat them to qualify too by the sounds of it:

" if the club which is not admitted is the winner of the domestic cup, it is replaced by the domestic cup runner-up, unless the latter does not fulfill the admission criteria or has already qualified for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, in which cases the club is replaced by the next best-placed club in the top domestic league championship"

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Arsenal will fuck it up for us one way or another anyway, they'll either lose to Wigan or finish 5th.

Not if we win the cup.

 

[jezzablade]

The Hull owner has stated that no more money is available (as he spent a fortune getting hold of just the team and then getting hold of some prem players). But this doesn't mean they won't go for it in the semi as there is still the prestige and revenue of a cup final and the possibility of them winning the cup. So it doesn't have any bearing on our game with them in any way.
However it would be excruciatingly embarrassing for a set of supporters, who feel they are to quote "a mid table premier league team", (I don't want to go down the plastic route again I think that is done and people believe what they believe) not being able, due to financial reasons, enter into even the lower of the two Euro competitions. And it therefore shows them up as not really being financially a premier league team, just a team in the premier league.
Their whole club is propped up on future money which is a very dangerous position to be in. For the supporters who supported them from the Boothferry days and the young kids that have started to support them since, I hope they somehow get out of this predicament. However unless Siemens or someone invests in them, if there is no money from the owner they are really going to struggle.
Hull should be virtually safe after this weekend so long as Cardiff don't win and Hull don't lose at home to Swansea. The run ins of the clubs around them really mean that 7 points clear of relegation should be enough. I wouldn't call it mid-table but I think they will be safe. Therefore Hull have everything to play for at Wembley with all non- cup tied players available.
It looks like the remainder of my career will now be tied up with the Humber due to the offshore wind farm industry, and hopefully the region will pick up with the Culture money and the massive influx of investment from wind farm construction. Hopefully some of that money can find its way to improving Hull especially East Hull which really needs some investment, and making the city centre more presentable.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Won't Hull simply say fuck the Europa Cup we're not bothered and fuck your financial regulations we'll do whatever the fuck we like as we are in the Premier League, don't you know.

 

[jezzablade]

I think it would be don't you "Kner".

 

[UnitedBlade]

I think it would be don't you "Kner".

Quite right "durnt yer kner" in an Egyptian accent

 

[grafikhaus]

Their whole club is propped up on future money which is a very dangerous position to be in.

I'd agree. But then...

It looks like the remainder of my career will now be tied up with the Humber due to the offshore wind farm industry, and hopefully the region will pick up with the Culture money and the massive influx of investment from wind farm construction.

I'd suggest that, basing a career on the entirely bogus 'windmill' scam is also a very dangerous position to be in. Have you considered selling Snake Oil?

 

[Kenilworth]

I'd agree. But then...



I'd suggest that, basing a career on the entirely bogus 'windmill' scam is also a very dangerous position to be in. Have you considered selling Snake Oil?

Are you trying to say that in contrast to the Windmill business, selling snake oil would be a breeze?

 

[Latters]

... although the title maybe a little miss-leading...

I don't remember reading that one. Was she one of the yellow ones?

 

[jezzablade]

I'd agree. But then...



I'd suggest that, basing a career on the entirely bogus 'windmill' scam is also a very dangerous position to be in. Have you considered selling Snake Oil?

We are involved in the laying of Electrical cable on the sub-sea currently out at Germany. The majority of these are from wind farms however one we are involved in is inter country. So I'm not fully reliant on wind turbines. However the grid is very happy with the majority of in-shore turbines at the moment, particularly the East coast arrays. The Humber is going to be the hub of off-shore wind turbines and Siemens has come in and signed the deal for this. There will be around 9,000 of these turbines on the Dogger bank and two other shallow water areas outside the Humber and will take a decade to construct.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-26725473
So snake oil or not there will be a hell of a lot of Electrical Cables running from them and therefore the remainder of my career helping to lay and maintain them.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

So Hull won't be going to Europe what ever happens . oh well.

 

[mattbianco1]

Arsenal will fuck it up for us one way or another anyway, they'll either lose to Wigan or finish 5th.

5th place would still see them in the Europa League.

 

[Rusty view]

For us to qualify without winning the cup, the winners would have to qualify for Champs League. If Arsenal win both Fa cup and finish 5th, the additional Euro League slot goes to the next best placed team in the League.

The way Arsenal & Everton are going, and bearing in mind games in hand and they have to play each other I can see Arsenal losing out on 4th spot.

Regarding registration to play, I read somewhere (The Mirror) we submitted our accounts to UEFA prior to Charlton match in order to meet FFP & register for UEFA comps. Premier league teams are automatically registered.

Lets beat Hull then "worry" about the ifs and buts of conquering Europe!

 

[Kev Gee]

Im sure being a Premiership team that Hull will find the money from somewere.

Maybe a sudden £25mill investment into changing the the stadium name to Hull Tigers Alam We R Premier League dernt ya kner FC or something?

I really hope we show them up at Wembley. We will probably get stuffed 10-0 or something though.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

We would still have to beat them to qualify too by the sounds of it:

" if the club which is not admitted is the winner of the domestic cup, it is replaced by the domestic cup runner-up, unless the latter does not fulfill the admission criteria or has already qualified for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, in which cases the club is replaced by the next best-placed club in the top domestic league championship"

You haven't read the quote properly. The bold line only occurs if the runner up has already qualified for europe by some other rmeans

 

[Dec]

You haven't read the quote properly. The bold line only occurs if the runner up has already qualified for europe by some other rmeans

I think you've misinterpreted it to be honest. It's an either/or statement.

"unless the latter does not fulfill the admission criteria (HULL) OR has already qualified for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, in which cases (PLURAL) the club is replaced by the next best-placed club in the top domestic league championship (NOT US!)"

 

[Ted Danson]

Yeah because Hull wont have met the admission criteria therefore the space goes to the next one down in the Prem rather then the next one down in the cup

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I think you've misinterpreted it to be honest. It's an either/or statement.

"unless the latter does not fulfill the admission criteria (HULL) OR has already qualified for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, in which cases (PLURAL) the club is replaced by the next best-placed club in the top domestic league championship (NOT US!)"

Yeah because Hull wont have met the admission criteria therefore the space goes to the next one down in the Prem rather then the next one down in the cup

Ted Danson , your previous post before the one i quoted referred to Arsenal. I assumed by 'them' you meant arsenal, ie: we would need to win the FA cup to qualify for Europe.

Us qualifying for the FA Cup by virtue of Hull being the Fa cup runners up and failing the eligibility criteria was never on the cards. I didn't think that even needed spelling out to anybody.

 

[Ted Danson]

Ted Danson , your previous post before the one i quoted referred to Arsenal. I assumed by 'them' you meant arsenal, ie: we would need to win the FA cup to qualify for Europe.

Us qualifying for the FA Cup by virtue of Hull being the Fa cup runners up and failing the eligibility criteria was never on the cards. I didn't think that even needed spelling out to anybody.

Yeah I hadnt read the OP properly and thought that was what he was insinuating, then thought your comment was along the same lines.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Only two teams competing in the FA Cup can possibly qualify for Europe through that tournament, the winners or the runners-up. Then the losing finalist only gets a slot if the winner has qualified for the Champions League, no other way they would qualify. If both finalist aren't eligible for the Europa League place (don't fulfill the admission criteria for example, or already qualified by finishing 5th in the PL) the place in the Europa League always goes to the next highest placed in the PL (6th).

 

[highpeakblade]

I wasn't insinuating that by the way chaps just to clear it up! I'm not that desperate, I reckon we are going to beat hull anyway hahaha

 

[Bladesway]

I'd agree. But then...



I'd suggest that, basing a career on the entirely bogus 'windmill' scam is also a very dangerous position to be in. Have you considered selling Snake Oil?

Interested in your opinion why its "bogus". Where do you get that from and why?

 

[jezzablade]

Interested in your opinion why its "bogus". Where do you get that from and why?

Some people listen to UKIP Mr Farage polled very highly last night.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

where as us beating Ulll would leave them open to years of ridicule at being beaten by a

We are involved in the laying of Electrical cable on the sub-sea currently out at Germany. The majority of these are from wind farms however one we are involved in is inter country. So I'm not fully reliant on wind turbines. However the grid is very happy with the majority of in-shore turbines at the moment, particularly the East coast arrays. The Humber is going to be the hub of off-shore wind turbines and Siemens has come in and signed the deal for this. There will be around 9,000 of these turbines on the Dogger bank and two other shallow water areas outside the Humber and will take a decade to construct.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-26725473
So snake oil or not there will be a hell of a lot of Electrical Cables running from them and therefore the remainder of my career helping to lay and maintain them.

Know a couple of boyo's that'll take some of that copper of your hands Jezza few bob in it for you as well .

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Third division team , fucking I-pad is all over the shop today .

 

[jezzablade]

where as us beating Ulll would leave them open to years of ridicule at being beaten by a

Know a couple of boyo's that'll take some of that copper of your hands Jezza few bob in it for you as well .

Thought you were in Dublin not Cardiff. Unfortunately I don't have any control over the cable stocks in any way. Also the stock levels are very tightly managed so all copper returns to the cable owners. Its a shame as there is usually over a KM left after a project. Nice thought though.

 

[blade too long]

Only two teams competing in the FA Cup can possibly qualify for Europe through that tournament, the winners or the runners-up. Then the losing finalist only gets a slot if the winner has qualified for the Champions League, no other way they would qualify. If both finalist aren't eligible for the Europa League place (don't fulfill the admission criteria for example, or already qualified by finishing 5th in the PL) the place in the Europa League always goes to the next highest placed in the PL (6th).

not true, if man utd finished 7th and lost in the semi you bet your sweet bippy theyd find a way to let them in , like they found a way for Liverpool to play in Europe 6/7 years ago, tv moguls are bricking it losing man utd fans in asia if they dont get into europe

 

[blade too long]

we will be in the final ,like Martin Luther KING
I HAD A DREAM
I HAD A DREAM THAT BOYS AND GIRLS FROM ALL OVER SHEFFIELD MADE PILGRIMAGE TO THE SHRINE OF THE LEATHER BALL
I HAD A DREAM , THAT A PROPHET NAMED DOYLE WOULD HOLD ALOFT A HOLY CUP SHINING BRIGHTLY IN THE SUN
I HAD A DREAM WED BE LOOKING DOWN ON THE PHILLISTINES AND MASSIVE FORNICATORS OF S6
AND I HAD A DREAM THAT A HOLY MAN WITH A BEARD WOULD LEAD US TO SALVATION