Burton Friendly

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

Very poor 1st half defence all over the place especially down the left Robbo/Burrows should have been 4-0 at HT. Better teams than Burton will murder us if we play like that. Desperate for a Robbo replacement, desperate for a Souza replacement. Better 2nd half despite Cannon and Moore being on the pitch, Moore in particular looked awful dithering on the ball and slow to react surely age has caught up with him at this level he is looking a real donkey, lucky to get the winner he knew nothing about it.
On that showing I'm getting worried that mid table is the best we can hope for. Desperately need a couple of signings to go into the 1st team just to build a solid spine, no real leaders in the squad at the moment, it could be a long long season if glaring issues are not addressed.

I’m underwhelmed by the Seles appointment too but I wouldn’t worry yet, still early days. Still time for performances to come together.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

so you never saw the constant berating from several fans who claimed crap like we only looked decent in 4 wins out of 28 wins
winning by the odd goal was as bad as drawing remarks
ill give Selles 5 TO 10 GAMES TO LOOK CAPABLE BEFORE THE WHIGERS START ON HIM
Im behind him as hes our manager now

We DID only look decent in about half a dozen wins last year. Our modus operandi was edge in front and hold on for dear life. We only scored 8 goals in the last 15 minutes last year, the 18th worst in the league. Wilder is still the best manager I’ve ever seen for us. But unfortunately, that version of him is long gone. I hope he rekindles that magic elsewhere.

 

[TJ blade]

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Was quite clearly pissed off at the end and was the only player not to come over afterwards

Not as pissed of as me! With that pass at Wembley...and no I can't forgive him absolute dog shit!

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

That annoys me that does. It's not as if he thought oooh I'll pass it to a Sunderland player.

It was just a lack of technique that let him down.

Didn’t say I agreed with it.. just my observation.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Don’t think I learned much at all from last night. We need more bite in CM and another centre half but that’s hardly news. Burton were going full tilt first half so it will have been a good workout.

I expect a few more in by the end of the window and the starting XI to look different.

Surely we are all too old now not to know you don’t read anything into preseason. Remember a few years ago Callum Robinson looking unplayable away at Barnsley.

Tidy little ground the Pirelli. £4.90 a pint as well, struggle to get a pint in a pub for that price these days.

 

[blade too long]

We DID only look decent in about half a dozen wins last year. Our modus operandi was edge in front and hold on for dear life. We only scored 8 goals in the last 15 minutes last year, the 18th worst in the league. Wilder is still the best manager I’ve ever seen for us. But unfortunately, that version of him is long gone. I hope he rekindles that magic elsewhere.

So 6 good wins and 22 dead jammy ones ?
Really .........you believe that ?
How long you been watching football

In 1990 we got promoted under Bassett we were bleeding awful in some games and got most wins by injury time Brian Deane goals

In fact I can't remember any promotion where we did win by putting sides to the sword where at least half or morre were 1-0 or 2-1

Going up under Warnock half our wins were attrition.. hard fought wins

 

[MiserableBlader]

Maybe just didn't see enough from the last game to pick a number 2. Neither barely had a thing to do.

Fair enough.
But if anyone did not see at Rotherham that Davies is about as good with the ball at his feet as Douglas Bader then they need a white stick.
WTF happened to this getting the ball forward?
It's getting as bad as the imbecile Wilder after the first game.
He actually kicks it quite well when he does go long.

Was going to go through this thread to see how many spotted the obvious flaws with the owners (still but judgement day is end of window) and their imbecilic managerail appointments. Two in one season period in charge.
But FFS I'm getting as despondent and deflated as I was last night after watching us outplayed at Burton just on the first page.

 

[metalblade]

I’m underwhelmed by the Seles appointment too but I wouldn’t worry yet, still early days. Still time for performances to come together.

It isn't Selles that is worrying me it is the lack of signings who can challenge to start games, too many "prospects" here at the moment. You have to wonder if the owners actually have any money to put into the 1st team?

 

[I should coco]

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Not as pissed of as me! With that pass at Wembley...and no I can't forgive him absolute dog shit!

Yes, because no player should ever make a mistake, they should all be 100% perfect, just like we fans are.

We are entitled to this level of pure perfection, because we support Sheffield United, who have a long standing record of never letting their fans down.

Never!

 

[Bell4]

We DID only look decent in about half a dozen wins last year. Our modus operandi was edge in front and hold on for dear life. We only scored 8 goals in the last 15 minutes last year, the 18th worst in the league. Wilder is still the best manager I’ve ever seen for us. But unfortunately, that version of him is long gone. I hope he rekindles that magic elsewhere.

That’s very fair tbh

 

[TJ blade]

Yes, because no player should ever make a mistake, they should all be 100% perfect, just like we fans are.

We are entitled to this level of pure perfection, because we support Sheffield United, who have a long standing record of never letting their fans down.

Never!

He's shit mate admit it.

 

[derfblade.3]

So 6 good wins and 22 dead jammy ones ?
Really .........you believe that ?
How long you been watching football

In 1990 we got promoted under Bassett we were bleeding awful in some games and got most wins by injury time Brian Deane goals

In fact I can't remember any promotion where we did win by putting sides to the sword where at least half or morre were 1-0 or 2-1

Going up under Warnock half our wins were attrition.. hard fought wins

Put loads to the sword this season. I went to all the home games and most of the away's and we battered our way to promotion.
Maybe you're too young to remember.

Sheffield United match record: 1982

Sheffield United football club complete match record by season: 1982

www.11v11.com

 

[blade too long]

70

Put loads to the sword this season. I went to all the home games and most of the away's and we battered our way to promotion.
Maybe you're too young to remember.

Sheffield United match record: 1982

Sheffield United football club complete match record by season: 1982

www.11v11.com

Div 4 ....really is it surprising we had some good wins .only game I missed that season due to a wedding was losing 5-1 at Colchester..but I'm comparing seasons of climbing out of the championship.. even in div 4 we scraped 4-3 at York and 3-2 at crewe and won 11 by the odd goal.

 

[UTB Blade]

Who hounded Wilder out? What on earth are you talking about? Wilder was sacked ultimately for failing to win promotion back to the Premier League by a board that backed him heavily in January but saw the team become actively worse.

Everyone could see that if we continued to scrape wins by narrow margins eventually it would catch up with us and it did.

We looked poorly coached all season, the football was attritional at best, fitness levels were unacceptable, we racked up £500k in fines due to ill discipline, we wasted January’s budget on players we didn’t need and failed to replace players we did. The playoff final encapsulated the 2nd half of the season, played well for about 25 minutes but then retreated 20 yards and ultimately conceded.

You really don't think Wilder was "hounded out"?

Do you really, seriously think, that if every single United fan, on here, other social media and elsewhere, had backed Wilder to the hilt after the play off final, the owners would have got rid of him when they did?

Not a chance in hell, in my opinion.

They probably would have wanted to, but if they feared a backlash severe enough to derail the "new direction" they wanted for the club, they certainly would have thought long and hard about whether to remove Wilder and set us on a new path, at this point.

We can quibble about the terminology of "hounding Wilder out", but it was absolutely the United "fans" queuing up to stick a knife in his back, that gave the owners licence to get rid of him when and how they did.

But you want fans to turn on a new manager that has 3/3 wins, scoring 13 goals, because we ‘only just’ won a preseason friendly?

"Fans" turned on a manager that had one promotion with us as Champions with 100 points, and another promotion with us with 89 points, not to mention promotions with us as a player, because we 'only just' lost a play off final, so what makes you think some of our "fans" won't turn on any other manager?
Just look at all the moaning on this thread, already.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Last night wasn't as much fun as York and Rovrum, but it did solidify my opinion of Keefer Moore. His ancestors pissed off a witch and they've cursed him to have his feet on the wrong legs.

For a forward - a position that quick thought and feet are of paramount importance - he's doggers. The playoff 'pass' was the fourth or fifth time he played a similar ball last year, most of which resulted in a chance/goal for the oppo. So much so, that l wasn't even surprised when he did it! Reality is, he's not dynamic, consistent, or technically good enough to hold down a starting position in a team pushing for Auto's.

I think Moore will be well aware of his short comings! Not stopped him having a successful career , sets a good example to young players with his workrate for the team.
As stated the shocking mistake for Sunderlands winner was not the 1st time this season he had messed up!
Can't see Selles using him much which probably means he will be sold or out on loan.

 

[metalblade]

Gerrim sold and off the wages,

 

[Ron_Justice]

Wrexham feels like the perfect fit. Not sure if they're going to be able to offer comparable wages but other than that, it seems to make sense for all concerned.

 

[The Crab]

Has anybody asked for Wilder back yet?.

I’m working on it, but Gene isn’t taking calls…

 

[ATL Recs]

You really don't think Wilder was "hounded out"?

Do you really, seriously think, that if every single United fan, on here, other social media and elsewhere, had backed Wilder to the hilt after the play off final, the owners would have got rid of him when they did?

Not a chance in hell, in my opinion.

They probably would have wanted to, but if they feared a backlash severe enough to derail the "new direction" they wanted for the club, they certainly would have thought long and hard about whether to remove Wilder and set us on a new path, at this point.

We can quibble about the terminology of "hounding Wilder out", but it was absolutely the United "fans" queuing up to stick a knife in his back, that gave the owners licence to get rid of him when and how they did.




"Fans" turned on a manager that had one promotion with us as Champions with 100 points, and another promotion with us with 89 points, not to mention promotions with us as a player, because we 'only just' lost a play off final, so what makes you think some of our "fans" won't turn on any other manager?
Just look at all the moaning on this thread, already.

That’s bollocks the fans lost it with him due to his arrogance stubbornness pathetic tactics pathetic team selections and his unprofessional behaviour dragging the club down
Oh and his waste of resources that had all the ability to gain another 10-12 points
The Wilder mark 2 was not Wilder mark 1
It’s the Mark 1 I will be eternally grateful for and respect - Mark 2 wasted a great opportunity and he let us all down

 

[Nick Jansky]

You really don't think Wilder was "hounded out"?

Do you really, seriously think, that if every single United fan, on here, other social media and elsewhere, had backed Wilder to the hilt after the play off final, the owners would have got rid of him when they did?

Not a chance in hell, in my opinion.

They probably would have wanted to, but if they feared a backlash severe enough to derail the "new direction" they wanted for the club, they certainly would have thought long and hard about whether to remove Wilder and set us on a new path, at this point.

We can quibble about the terminology of "hounding Wilder out", but it was absolutely the United "fans" queuing up to stick a knife in his back, that gave the owners licence to get rid of him when and how they did.




"Fans" turned on a manager that had one promotion with us as Champions with 100 points, and another promotion with us with 89 points, not to mention promotions with us as a player, because we 'only just' lost a play off final, so what makes you think some of our "fans" won't turn on any other manager?
Just look at all the moaning on this thread, already.

A lot of fans didn’t think the same way as you. That’s a shock, isn’t it. Obviously their opinions don’t count for as much as yours so they are bad fans, or “fans” as you put it in a pathetic attempt to belittle. Im sorry you didn’t get your own way, but get over it.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

You really don't think Wilder was "hounded out"?

Do you really, seriously think, that if every single United fan, on here, other social media and elsewhere, had backed Wilder to the hilt after the play off final, the owners would have got rid of him when they did?

Not a chance in hell, in my opinion.

They probably would have wanted to, but if they feared a backlash severe enough to derail the "new direction" they wanted for the club, they certainly would have thought long and hard about whether to remove Wilder and set us on a new path, at this point.

We can quibble about the terminology of "hounding Wilder out", but it was absolutely the United "fans" queuing up to stick a knife in his back, that gave the owners licence to get rid of him when and how they did.




"Fans" turned on a manager that had one promotion with us as Champions with 100 points, and another promotion with us with 89 points, not to mention promotions with us as a player, because we 'only just' lost a play off final, so what makes you think some of our "fans" won't turn on any other manager?
Just look at all the moaning on this thread, already.

I think professional investors that purchase an enterprise for over £100m usually make decisions dispassionately and devoid of emotion. So yes, I think once Wilder wasted valuable resources and ultimately failed to win promotion, the owners would have made their decision regardless of fan opinion. Probably not the best way to run a club anyway, madness of crowds and all that.

You believe fans hounded him out, that is, the board wouldn’t have sacked him if not for fan backlash. Ok that’s your opinion. I have a different one.

I’ve already gone over the reasons why your last paragraph doesn’t tell the whole story. I see no relevance of his achievements in 2017 or 2019, as I say, that version of him is long gone unfortunately.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Faggots and Peas was an odd thing to see on the menu there. Did anybody partake?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Faggots and Peas was an odd thing to see on the menu there. Did anybody partake?

I would have if I was there.

 

[N20 Blade]

So 6 good wins and 22 dead jammy ones ?
Really .........you believe that ?
How long you been watching football

In 1990 we got promoted under Bassett we were bleeding awful in some games and got most wins by injury time Brian Deane goals

In fact I can't remember any promotion where we did win by putting sides to the sword where at least half or morre were 1-0 or 2-1

Going up under Warnock half our wins were attrition.. hard fought wins

TBF the Warnock promotion was pretty emphatic. We had a blip when he was linked with Pompey, but the buffer we'd built early on in the season made all the difference. Remember smashing Millwall away, not many United teams have done that in my time. We did it with 4 games to spare, Reading and us a class apart that season. We had goals from midfield and attack, and could bounce back, e.g. Hull away.

 

[blade too long]

TBF the Warnock promotion was pretty emphatic. We had a blip when he was linked with Pompey, but the buffer we'd built early on in the season made all the difference. Remember smashing Millwall away, not many United teams have done that in my time. We did it with 4 games to spare, Reading and us a class apart that season. We had goals from midfield and attack, and could bounce back, e.g. Hull away.

but all those one goal wins, 16 of them under warnock , last season we onl had 15 1 goal wins , thats what wrankles with the moaners not enough 4 and 5 goal whoopings

 

[Nick Jansky]

but all those one goal wins, 16 of them , thats what wrankles with the moaners not enough 4 and 5 goal whoopings

Wrong, again. It depends on the quality of the football. 1-0 wins can be highly entertaining if the team is playing on the front foot and pushing for more goals. The back foot war of attrition dirges we saw last season after going a goal up were just not entertaining. It wasn’t the scorelines, it was the shite we were watching.

 

[blade too long]

all our wins are entertaining , if you dont enjoy them why bother

winning 1-0 away at millwall is always difficult

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warnock had 16 1 goal wins to our 15 last season , we went up with a 1-0 at cardiff which was really hard work, and 90 points from 26 wins

thats football, especially for not financially blessed clubs like us

 

[BladeByChoice]

Faggots and Peas was an odd thing to see on the menu there. Did anybody partake?

I would have if I was there.

Tried these a few weeks back, impulse buy just for the nostalgia, they were absolutely fucking disgusting, a lots changed since the butcher used to make them from leftover offal and sell em cheap.

 

[The Glasshouse Blade]

I actually think there will be more good teams vying for automatic this year:

Ipswich
Saints
Norwich
Birmingham
Coventry
Us
Maybe Swansea or WBA

There won't be 3 or 4 teams pulling away at the top.

We are weaker though. No Souttar. No Souza. Likely no Anel. No JRS. No BBD. No Gilchrist (who I rated until he got injured).

BBD and JRS were very poor in my humble opinion, we won't miss them, Gilchrist was hit n miss as well.

 

[robbiez666]

Agreed about BBD but he got 4 goals and 3 assists.
I thought JRS was good, if inconsistent. 7 goals and 2 assists

We scored 63 goals so, chucking in Brewster's 4 as well, that's 15 goals. Almost a quarter of all our goals gone.