Summer Shopping List (Players)

[Tickhill Blade]

I think we need LW 2, RW1.
Not sure about strikers. We’ve got Campbell, Cannon, Moore and One. If we play a variant of 433/4231 we should be alright

Last season our strikers, and the team as a whole, didn't score enough goals. If we start with the above 4, we've basically swapped Cannon for Brewster from the start of last season. We'll have the same problem

 

[JD88]

Without any further sales who'd need replacing, we need...

RB
CB
CM
RW
LW
ST

As a minimum, arguably 2 LW

 

[ben1987]

Last season our strikers, and the team as a whole, didn't score enough goals. If we start with the above 4, we've basically swapped Cannon for Brewster from the start of last season. We'll have the same problem

I was replying to the ‘without sales’ bit

I’d be surprised if we went out and bought another striker with those already here. Especially if we play 1 upfront more often than not. Hes played 4231 and 433 more often than 4222.

In an ideal world I’d move Moore on and get someone like Kone in from Wycombe.

 

[Railway Blade]

Its difficult to assess without knowing how much he is willing to promote youth ( which he has been keen to do at other clubs)

As an example I would have thought we definitely need a right back but he might see something in Ukaki as a right back. He has played their before.

Then we would have Seriki, Ukaki and the Shakeltons High Seat Chair as cover.

Oné might feature more this season, then we might not be after a striker.

At least one more centre half and a central midfielder and a couple of wide ones/wingers I would have thought are needed but who knows the mind of our data driven, energiser bunny, mystery Spaniard.

 

[KMC-1889]

We desperately need to strengthen the depth at the back and make sure Robinson plays as few minutes as possible.

I think we have enough quantity at RB but I’m not sure about quality? We have Seriki, Shackleton, Sachdev, Ukaki & Ahmedhodzic who can all play but with the exception of Anel there’s not a lot of consistency or quality.

I’m a bit more relaxed about our midfield and forwards than most blades. I think we can put out some good combinations of Arblaster/Peck/Davies/Hamer/o’Hare/Campbell/Moore/Cannon/One to trouble most teams in the league, but unless the plan is to get Burrows & Seriki high up the pitch we need better quality out wide.

As for targets, I’ve genuinely no idea. Doesn’t look like the new owners are keen of following the old model of shopping around for the best of the EFL and plan is to gamble on lesser-known leagues that offer better value. The good thing is a lot of EPL u21s seem stuffed with tricky wingers available for loan.

 

[loyalblade95]

Assuming no more 1st teamers are sold, these are what I think are the priority positions, that need to be made before Bristol City game.

RB x 1
CB x 1
CM x 1
LW - at least 1

4 total signings

While it would be great for more than 4 signings before Bristol City, I'd be happy with 4 signings for those positions as it would give us a complete starting 11 for that match, then complete the rest of the signings after that game.

Additional signings before 1st September (don't have to do all of them this summer).

GK x 1 (not a priority)
CB x 1 (only if Anel leaves)
RW x 1
LW x 1
ST x 1

Seem to recall a few comments from Hull and Reading fans (when Selles was first linked) that Selles apparently likes to work with smaller squads, but I don't know if that's 100% true.

RW, LW and ST could depend on how the likes of Ukaki, Caceres, Nwachukwu and Oné get on in preseason (as all of them are in Girona).

I'd be surprised if any of them are 1st team ready in terms of starting right now, but if at least 1 or 2 of them are capable of being decent/good backup for the championship, then why not use them as backup/bench options.

Brooks, Seriki and Peck were in that position last season (good bench options who initially weren't good enough to start every week), but all 3 grew as the season went on.

 

[utd4ever]

Last season our strikers, and the team as a whole, didn't score enough goals. If we start with the above 4, we've basically swapped Cannon for Brewster from the start of last season. We'll have the same problem

That was down to tactics not the players and why Wilder lost his job.

 

[Working Class Hero]

That was down to tactics not the players and why Wilder lost his job.

Whatever tactics you play, we need more than those four surely, if we want to be promoted?

Only one of them is top end of the Championship standard, and he doesn't have a good enough injury record to be relied on consistently.

You could argue Moore was in his prime (debatable), but he'll be 33 when the season starts.

I think ideally we loan Oné out and replace him with someone who can compete with Campbell for the main striker role. It would have to be a loan though, by the sounds of it.

 

[FriethBlade]

After listening to the Selles interview today and thinking about how we ar likely to set up here's my thoughts
Firstly those saying we need new signings up front to score more I think we will play with wingers and 2 up front. If we get more balls into tje box from wide areas Campbell and Moore may thrive and we will be much more attacking than under Wilder
Secondly Selles was clear thay Hamer will play centrally, again adding to our attacking threat
Thirdly he talked about both Seriki and Brooks being established top end Championship players and being important for us this season (suggesting both may start so any RB signing will be as back up)
Finally he talked about primarily using the loan and freebies market for new players, but that money is available for signings. Putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 I'm guessing that money will be saved for young players that we want to sign and can make money on...like Phillips

 

[ancientblade]

i think seriki and burrows will be important players for us this season looking likely that they will play higher up the pitch under selles and if were having wingers as well can see more early balls being whipped in to the box which will definetly suit campbell and cannon who i think will be our front 2 add to that that hamer if he stays is likely to be moved more central and possibly closer to o'hare and think we will see a lot more attacking style of football this season

 

[Kev Gee]

It's all abit boring this pre season isn't it...

At least show some progress on the academy T1 or new training ground.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Doesn't sound like too many signings in. What else do we need after signing Barry? (LW)

 

[MayorOJC]

Doesn't sound like too many signings in. What else do we need after signing Barry? (LW)

RW, RB, CM, CB, CF

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I'm not sure how to take this...



Is he being genuine?
Is he being coy?
Is he trying to temper expectations?
Does he know something about available resources?

I would argue that we need:
A clear candidate for starting RB, as we have 3 youngsters there currently. I want RB to be Seriki's longer-term but I don't want that expectation on him now and he plays a high tempo style and have a few niggly injuries last season.

Ideally 2 x CBs, to ensure depth, to have players who can play Selles' way, and to move Robinson on. 2 becomes essential if Anel leaves.

CM depth and ideally starters. To play Selles' ideal way, with two deep lying CDM play makers, or at least one, alongside two busy CMs. A replacement for Souza at least, in terms of a physical presence who can also play a bit. Arblaster still needs time to return, and from a very serious injury. Peck is fantastic but realistically did way more minutes than would be ideal last season and needs someone to rotate with. Davies is great but his injury record is not to be relied upon.

Wingers, to play Selles' way. It's great that Brooks is starting, but is he there to be relied upon to produce, week in, week out? He's yet to find a consistency. Regardless, he needs competition and depth around him. RW and LW. We've lost BBD and JRS, that's a lot of quality to lose.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I'd say we lack quality in depth, and enough experienced, proven performers in key positions.

 

[loyalblade95]

I'm not sure how to take this...



Is he being genuine?
Is he being coy?
Is he trying to temper expectations?
Does he know something about available resources?

I would argue that we need:
A clear candidate for starting RB, as we have 3 youngsters there currently. I want RB to be Seriki's longer-term but I don't want that expectation on him now and he plays a high tempo style and have a few niggly injuries last season.

Ideally 2 x CBs, to ensure depth, to have players who can play Selles' way, and to move Robinson on. 2 becomes essential if Anel leaves.

CM depth and ideally starters. To play Selles' ideal way, with two deep lying CDM play makers, or at least one, alongside two busy CMs. A replacement for Souza at least, in terms of a physical presence who can also play a bit. Arblaster still needs time to return, and from a very serious injury. Peck is fantastic but realistically did way more minutes than would be ideal last season and needs someone to rotate with. Davies is great but his injury record is not to be relied upon.

Wingers, to play Selles' way. It's great that Brooks is starting, but is he there to be relied upon to produce, week in, week out? He's yet to find a consistency. Regardless, he needs competition and depth around him. RW and LW. We've lost BBD and JRS, that's a lot of quality to lose.

Including Louie Barry, this is our strongest 11.

Players with a * next to their name are either not guaranteed to start or might not be available at the start of the season.

-------------Cooper
Seriki*-Anel-Bindon-Burrows
--O'Hare-Arblaster*-Hamer
Brooks-----Campbell-----Barry

Arblaster*: injury
Seriki*: unclear if he will be 1st choice or not

That's not including our bench players but looking at that, I'd agree with RS.

We don't need to make a whole lot of signings, we just need a few quality players for both the bench and starting 11, maybe 4/5 in total (not including L Barry).

RB, CB, CDM and RW for me, maybe another LW as well.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Including Louie Barry, this is our strongest 11.

Players with a * next to their name are either not guaranteed to start or might not be available at the start of the season.

-------------Cooper
Seriki*-Anel-Bindon-Burrows
--O'Hare-Arblaster*-Hamer
Brooks-----Campbell-----Barry

Arblaster*: injury
Seriki*: unclear if he will be 1st choice or not

That's not including our bench players but looking at that, I'd agree with RS.

We don't need to make a whole lot of signings, we just need a few quality players for both the bench and starting 11, maybe 4/5 in total (not including L Barry).

RB, CB, CDM and RW for me, maybe another LW as well.

I think the main thing for me, is the drop off in depth and experience and whether who we have at the moment includes enough guaranteed starters, ready to carry the responsibility of trying to compete at the top end of the division.

It might not have panned out at as planned, but the bench at the end of last season was as strong as I can remember us having in a long, long time in terms of experience and options.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

We need a lot of signings and have already wasted precious time. It will probably take Sélles until the last week of August to properly realise what he needs

 

[RMBlade]

By my count with no more big sales we need (assuming we have signed Barry):

1x RB
1x CB
1x DM
1x CM (covered by squad players at the club)
1x RW

RB - IMO this has to be a new signing, there is no one already at the club who is good enough/available often enough for even a backup role to Seriki. The new signing has to be at least competing with Seriki for the starting RB spot.

CB - I haven’t seen enough of Baptiste or Sasnauskas to say they can play as Anel’s backup. I think we need to sign a new backup CB and would go with an older head. The squad lacks a bit of experience and I think a Holding style signing is the way to go.

DM - From what I can gather Selles prefers a playmaker type over a destroyer (more Norwood than Souza). I think Arblaster can player this role for us but will likely miss the start of the season. Blacker played there first half last night and Hampson in the second half, I don’t think either are ready for first team football. Perhaps Blacker could have been backup to Arblaster if there weren’t so many question marks over his fitness, however I think we need to make this a new signing.

CM - I think the cover for CM is already at the club. Surely between Davies, Shackleton, Caceres and Marsh someone will be able to provide cover if/when needed.

RW - A bit like Seriki at RB I’m not convinced yet that Brooks is ready to start week in week out at a top Championship club. He looked good at the end of last season and last night but I think we need be bringing in a new player who is at least of the ability of JRS to compete with Brooks. Maybe Ukaki can be that guy but he is basically an unknown.

So 4 new signings needed, plus if anyone in the lineups above (plus Moore) are sold then they will need replacing.

First team players I’d actively look to move on - Tom Davies, Shackleton, RND, Grbic, Moore and Robinson

 

[BerksBlade]

Still think we need a replacement for Vini - not necessarily like-for-like, but someone prepared to sit deeper than Arblaster would. Alzate probably the best option I've seen mentioned.

 

[Balham]

RW, RB, CM, CB, CF

Why do we need a CF? We'll probably play one up front and we've got Campbell, Cannon, Moore and Oné for that spot.

 

[MayorOJC]

Why do we need a CF? We'll probably play one up front and we've got Campbell, Cannon, Moore and Oné for that spot.

Because Cannon, Moore and Oné scored 7 goals between them for us last season and we need a more reliable plan B. We're one Campbell injury away from disaster.

 

[Balham]

Because Cannon, Moore and Oné scored 7 goals between them for us last season and we need a more reliable plan B. We're one Campbell injury away from disaster.

That was down to the tactical approach, and aversion to playing youth unless forced, of the last manager more than anything else (IMO).

 

[MayorOJC]

That was down to the tactical approach, and aversion to playing youth unless forced, of the last manager more than anything else (IMO).

It was down to Cannon and Moore being limited in ability and Oné being a youth player. While I'd love for Cannon to turn into a £10m player or Oné to have a breakthrough season, I don't see why we'd roll the dice on such an important position.

 

[radio]

Not really worried about recruitment this summer , i am very calm compared to this time last season , The rebuild under CW & AK seemed to/ and was , going well , meaning not too much needed , although I was expecting us to step up from signing players on loan who had been on loan at League One , that is where it has been suggested we send some of our fringe players Still time to go and not really concerned if we don't sign anyone , CW has left the squad strong enough to mount a challenge for automatic promotion,

 

[steve26272]

, CW has left the squad strong enough to mount a challenge for automatic promotion,

Hmmm, not sure strong enough squad, 1st team maybe
Cooper
Sekiri - Anel- new CB- burrows
Peck- Hamer - ohare
Brooks- Campbell - cannon

We need a better no2 keeper
New starting CB not JLT, inc Bindon
Vini replacement + 1 at least
Right side is very raw
At least 1 more forward

Brewster, gilchrist, choudhury, BBD, holding, JRS - add those back in = good squad, without them = good starting 11

 

[radio]

Hmmm, not sure strong enough squad, 1st team maybe
Cooper
Sekiri - Anel- new CB- burrows
Peck- Hamer - ohare
Brooks- Campbell - cannon

We need a better no2 keeper
New starting CB not JLT, inc Bindon
Vini replacement + 1 at least
Right side is very raw
At least 1 more forward

Brewster, gilchrist, choudhury, BBD, holding, JRS - add those back in = good squad, without them = good starting 11

Yeah that's fair , I probably worded my message wrong , I don't mean nothing needs doing I just alot calmer than I was this time last year ,The players you list are "the loans" (apart from Brewster) which do (I think) tend to come in more towards the end of the window , I am , if we don't make big money signings, hoping for some high quality loans

 

[Rodley]

Still think we need a replacement for Vini - not necessarily like-for-like, but someone prepared to sit deeper than Arblaster would. Alzate probably the best option I've seen mentioned.

Alzate apparently £6-£8m. We’re not at that level budget wise.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Alzate apparently £6-£8m. We’re not at that level budget wise.

And you know those two things how?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

View attachment 216024View attachment 216025By my count with no more big sales we need (assuming we have signed Barry):

1x RB
1x CB
1x DM
1x CM (covered by squad players at the club)
1x RW

RB - IMO this has to be a new signing, there is no one already at the club who is good enough/available often enough for even a backup role to Seriki. The new signing has to be at least competing with Seriki for the starting RB spot.

CB - I haven’t seen enough of Baptiste or Sasnauskas to say they can play as Anel’s backup. I think we need to sign a new backup CB and would go with an older head. The squad lacks a bit of experience and I think a Holding style signing is the way to go.

DM - From what I can gather Selles prefers a playmaker type over a destroyer (more Norwood than Souza). I think Arblaster can player this role for us but will likely miss the start of the season. Blacker played there first half last night and Hampson in the second half, I don’t think either are ready for first team football. Perhaps Blacker could have been backup to Arblaster if there weren’t so many question marks over his fitness, however I think we need to make this a new signing.

CM - I think the cover for CM is already at the club. Surely between Davies, Shackleton, Caceres and Marsh someone will be able to provide cover if/when needed.

RW - A bit like Seriki at RB I’m not convinced yet that Brooks is ready to start week in week out at a top Championship club. He looked good at the end of last season and last night but I think we need be bringing in a new player who is at least of the ability of JRS to compete with Brooks. Maybe Ukaki can be that guy but he is basically an unknown.

So 4 new signings needed, plus if anyone in the lineups above (plus Moore) are sold then they will need replacing.

First team players I’d actively look to move on - Tom Davies, Shackleton, RND, Grbic, Moore and Robinson

I think that sums it up perfectly, as I see it, just far more eloquently. I think the CM position can be covered like you say, I judg wonder if we need that added quality starter, the Souza replacement. I'd like to think we can get 12ish appearances out of Davies? His quality is clear when he plays.

Because Cannon, Moore and Oné scored 7 goals between them for us last season and we need a more reliable plan B. We're one Campbell injury away from disaster.

That's a really good point.

Yeah that's fair , I probably worded my message wrong , I don't mean nothing needs doing I just alot calmer than I was this time last year ,The players you list are "the loans" (apart from Brewster) which do (I think) tend to come in more towards the end of the window , I am , if we don't make big money signings, hoping for some high quality loans

I know what you mean, radio I guess we couldn't be in a much worse/harder starting point than last season though, TBF