25/26 Front of shirt sponsor - Midnite

[blade_ben]

And what's it matter

You’re the one saying it’s a keeper kit. It’s a training kit. When did we last have a keeper top with long sleeves!

 

[The Crab]

The sponsorship got me 25% of a few Covid tests for overseas trips so it was fine by me

I’ve got a few boxes in the garage you can have for mates rates.

I’ve just got Vern to “check” the use by dates…

 

[Gimli]

I see adds for crypto currency but don’t go buy any
How many baldies went to Istanbul having had Dr Cinik as a sponsor?

It do appreciate gambling is a problem, and if you have been affected I’m sorry for that

But truth be told 99% on here won’t give a toss if a lad bought with this sponsorship money scores the winner to send us up

I think that’s a fair point, but then I would ask (this is just devils advocate btw) where do we draw the line on what is acceptable - smoking and (maybe) alcohol sponsorships I believe are banned as the obvious health risks mean promoting it is considered harmful but people are still free to buy cigarettes, should gambling not be considered in the same bracket?

What if a ‘gentleman’s club’ wanted to sponsor a shirt? Should that be allowed? After all people are free to go there or not as they wish…

 

[CrookesBlade]

Used to love spotting slightly obscure shirt sponsors in real life. Move into a new house - it’s got a Baxi boiler (PNE), at work printing off meaningless documents on a Mita copier (Villa), go to Spain and the fridge in the room is a a Teka (Real Madrid). What’s that beer hiding in the back of the fridge in the off licence? It’s a Quilmes (Boca and River Plate)

Don’t get the same thrill when yet another pop up for a gambling company you recognise from a PL clubs shirt

 

[Bladeloyal]

You’re the one saying it’s a keeper kit. It’s a training kit. When did we last have a keeper top with long sleeves!

You can get long sleeve keeper kits ever season .last post on the subject .and when would anyone train in a long sleeve top unless your nesh

 

[blade_ben]

You can get long sleeve keeper kits ever season .last post on the subject .and when would anyone train in a long sleeve top unless your nesh

Just to prove a point… !

 

[Houston_Blade]

when would anyone train in a long sleeve top unless your nesh

Erm……

 

[Bladeloyal]

Just to prove a point… !

That's the sweatshirt with the pockets I've got one

 

[Rodley]

Unitedights moaning about Midnite being misppelt can sod off to Meddowhall as far as I’m concerned, anywhere but Bramhall Lane

 

[Bladeloyal]

Erm……
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Nesh

 

[blade_ben]

That's the sweatshirt with the pockets I've got one

“when would anyone train in a long sleeve top unless your nesh“

 

[Bladeloyal]

“when would anyone train in a long sleeve top unless your nesh“

I don't train in it ,poor fashion outfit

 

[Bladeloyal]

Leave it there lads ,training top ,sweatshirt goaly top overcoat , it's something with a new logo on probably printed just as a test

 

[Rufus Smalls]

That's a goaly shirt

Stick or wag ?

 

[Bladeloyal]

Stick or wag ?

Wag

 

[CrookesBlade]

I think that’s a fair point, but then I would ask (this is just devils advocate btw) where do we draw the line on what is acceptable - smoking and (maybe) alcohol sponsorships I believe are banned as the obvious health risks mean promoting it is considered harmful but people are still free to buy cigarettes, should gambling not be considered in the same bracket?

What if a ‘gentleman’s club’ wanted to sponsor a shirt? Should that be allowed? After all people are free to go there or not as they wish…

In isolation you are unlikely to develop a problem gambling habit if your team has a gambling firm on the shirt. You might be more inclined to bet with them if they are linked to your team, or you know the name and view them as reputable if you bet anyway.

As a whole though it’s part of a massive problem that normalises problematic betting. The football league is sponsored by betting firms and it’s mentioned constantly in coverage, odds pop up at half time during the ads, “it matters more when there’s money on it” etc. It becomes part of your match day routine, you think every one else is doing it as well and it becomes ingrained in the culture.

Some people will inevitably make the link that they aren’t enjoying the game if there is money at stake.

The solution, for me, is to ban ads for betting like they have for smoking. People will seek it out if they really want it.

 

[Gimli]

In isolation you are unlikely to develop a problem gambling habit if your team has a gambling firm on the shirt. You might be more inclined to bet with them if they are linked to your team, or you know the name and view them as reputable if you bet anyway.

As a whole though it’s part of a massive problem that normalises problematic betting. The football league is sponsored by betting firms and it’s mentioned constantly in coverage, odds pop up at half time during the ads, “it matters more when there’s money on it” etc. It becomes part of your match day routine, you think every one else is doing it as well and it becomes ingrained in the culture.

Some people will inevitably make the link that they aren’t enjoying the game if there is money at stake.

The solution, for me, is to ban ads for betting like they have for smoking. People will seek it out if they really want it.

Completely agree

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Wag

Playing goalie wag, you had to be a box to box midfielder, a sweeper and a goalie all in one. Be worth around £100m in today’s transfer market.

 

[steve26272]

I think that’s a fair point, but then I would ask (this is just devils advocate btw) where do we draw the line on what is acceptable - smoking and (maybe) alcohol sponsorships I believe are banned as the obvious health risks mean promoting it is considered harmful but people are still free to buy cigarettes, should gambling not be considered in the same bracket?

What if a ‘gentleman’s club’ wanted to sponsor a shirt? Should that be allowed? After all people are free to go there or not as they wish…

To be fair if a gentleman’s club did advertise it would probably be the highest grossing shirt sponsorship deal ever!

Agree tho, fine line between business and morals, sadly football doesn’t do morals as it don’t pay the bills

 

[Blade56]

I'd love to know what percentage of the fans against us having a gambling company sponsor us watch the funny Paddy Power videos?

I couldn’t give a toss, people should be able to gamble or not gamble, smoke or not smoke, etc.

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm just glad it's not one of the Chinese ones where they player big Chinese letters on the shirt.
At least this logo is very inoffensive

 

[JT89]

You’re the one saying it’s a keeper kit. It’s a training kit. When did we last have a keeper top with long sleeves!

All of last seasons keeper tops were available with long sleeves.

 

[54yrblade]

Dear owners

Orange away kit with black trim, sponsored by Hendos, would look spectacular

'Make it so'

Thank you

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

What a strange and frightening new world we find ourselves in, where the main shirt sponsor is secured well before the season starts.

 

[mattbianco1]

What a strange and frightening new world we find ourselves in, where the main shirt sponsor is secured well before the season starts.

Don't worry, it'll still go tits up.

David Brooks has gone to West Brom, Tommy Doyle is going to Birmingham. We'll run out of ex-players to target soon

 

[Gin&Juice]

Sounds like a 70’s Pam Grier or Fred Williamson film i’d totally watch at 2am. For that reason i’m on board.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

One stipulation of the sponsorship is that all home games have to be played at midnight.

Sorry and all that.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

If I am being really picky, I'm not a fan of the font. But in general it's just another firm that most people have never heard of like the vast majority of our sponsors this century, so as long as they're paying us a fair whack for it who cares.

 

[cooperblade]

This thread highlights what a terrible job the betting firms' PR departments have done in terms of publicising the work they've all done on responsible gambling. It's a fascinating insight into how people read things, believe them and they become received wisdom even when they're not true.

There are multiple references to people being bombarded with gambling ads at half-time of games when pre-watershed gambling advertising around live sport ended in 2019 with the "whistle to whistle" ban. People have talked about the pop-ups they get for gambling brands who sponsor Premier League teams when there's only one (maybe two at a push) gambling brands who would be looking to acquire UK customers. There's mention of a strapline that was withdrawn maybe 10 years ago. Several people have said "I hope they don't put Midnite on the kids shirts" when gambling brands never appear on kids' shirts. Posters have said gambling isn't well regulated when it's incredibly heavily regulated - you literally have to prove you can afford it before you can spend significant sums of money.

It's come 20 years too late and some operators have behaved disgracefully in the past (so to some extent the companies deserve all the stick they get) but I know from personal experience how seriously most firms now take safer gambling and the amount of effort they put into it. Some of the firms who've been criticised in this thread are spending enormous amounts of money on things like AI models to identify customers who may get into problems with gambling so they can make the necessary interventions.

 

[S5Blade]

This thread highlights what a terrible job the betting firms' PR departments have done in terms of publicising the work they've all done on responsible gambling. It's a fascinating insight into how people read things, believe them and they become received wisdom even when they're not true.

There are multiple references to people being bombarded with gambling ads at half-time of games when pre-watershed gambling advertising around live sport ended in 2019 with the "whistle to whistle" ban. People have talked about the pop-ups they get for gambling brands who sponsor Premier League teams when there's only one (maybe two at a push) gambling brands who would be looking to acquire UK customers. There's mention of a strapline that was withdrawn maybe 10 years ago. Several people have said "I hope they don't put Midnite on the kids shirts" when gambling brands never appear on kids' shirts. Posters have said gambling isn't well regulated when it's incredibly heavily regulated - you literally have to prove you can afford it before you can spend significant sums of money.

It's come 20 years too late and some operators have behaved disgracefully in the past (so to some extent the companies deserve all the stick they get) but I know from personal experience how seriously most firms now take safer gambling and the amount of effort they put into it. Some of the firms who've been criticised in this thread are spending enormous amounts of money on things like AI models to identify customers who may get into problems with gambling so they can make the necessary interventions.

Unfortunately, even the best PR firms would struggle to get anyone to change their mind. What the betting companies have to work against, in terms of rules, regulations etc is absolutely mind blowing.