The Selles formation

[Dellas Cowboys]

The Selles formation is said to be 4 - 2 -2 -2 with two number tens and over lapping full backs so from current squad what would your team be ?

Cooper
Seriki Anel Robbo Burrows
Souza Arblaster
Hamer O Hare
Canon Campbell

Bench

Peck Brooks One Moore McCallum A. Davies T Davies

Right back required 1/2 centre back 1/2, striker plus replace any out goings

I'm swapping Moore in for Cannon personally

 

[Rodley]

Didn't he switch to 4-3-3 at Reading because the 4-2-2-2 wasn't working?

Did he realise they have wingers in League One too?

 

[TJ blade]

The Selles formation is said to be 4 - 2 -2 -2 with two number tens and over lapping full backs so from current squad what would your team be ?

Cooper
Seriki Anel Robbo Burrows
Souza Arblaster
Hamer O Hare
Canon Campbell

Bench

Peck Brooks One Moore McCallum A. Davies T Davies

Right back required 1/2 centre back 1/2, striker plus replace any out goings

Robinson!... fuck that!

 

[Mattblade68]

Ruben Selles take me home , to the place we belong.
When we get there , we' ll be singing , grease chip butty , all night long.
Ruben Seller take me home,to the place we belong
Ruben Seller take me home to the place we belong.

 

[Youngand70]

Ruben Selles take me home , to the place we belong.
When we get there , we' ll be singing , grease chip butty , all night long.
Ruben Seller take me home,to the place we belong
Ruben Seller take me home to the place we belong.

 

[Pawk Patrol]

You forgot McBurnie.

And Grbic…

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

When back fours came to the fore in the early’60’s , they were almost always used with a single holding midfielder in a 4 -1-2 - 3 or 4- 1 -3 -2 line up .

This formation brought a great deal of success to a number of teams including those of England in the ‘66 World Cup and the best ever Blades team of the early ‘70s .

Granted , this formation asks a lot of the 1 and in Nobby Styles in England’s case and Trevor Hockey in ours ,both teams had outstanding exponents of this role .

This formation allows for five creative / attack minded players to be on the pitch at the same time and it surprises me that very few teams use it , particularly when at home against weaker opposition .

There were any number of games last year when I believe such a system could and should have been deployed and would have resulted in a much better outcome both in terms of the result and the entertainment value .

 

[ancientblade]

When back fours came to the fore in the early’60’s , they were almost always used with a single holding midfielder in a 4 -1-2 - 3 or 4- 1 -3 -2 line up .

This formation brought a great deal of success to a number of teams including those of England in the ‘66 World Cup and the best ever Blades team of the early ‘70s .

Granted , this formation asks a lot of the 1 and in Nobby Styles in England’s case and Trevor Hockey in ours ,both teams had outstanding exponents of this role .

This formation allows for five creative / attack minded players to be on the pitch at the same time and it surprises me that very few teams use it , particularly when at home against weaker opposition .

There were any number of games last year when I believe such a system could and should have been deployed and would have resulted in a much better outcome both in terms of the result and the entertainment value .

that great early 70s side under john harris mainly played 424 with a 442 set up when we hadnt got the ball hockey won the ball looked for tc then it was switched to either woody or salmons then in to the box for dearden and reece will never forget the 2 victories we had against leeds in 70 and 71 completely ripped em apart in both games

 

[robbiez666]

Didn't he switch to 4-3-3 at Reading because the 4-2-2-2 wasn't working?

League 1 hoof. Most teams were bypassing the press. By going over it.

 

[Torrix1889]

League 1 hoof. Most teams were bypassing the press. By going over it.

That was what we resorted to in the 0-3 to Selles' Hull at the Lane. Couldn't cope with the press so just started hoofing it.

4-3-3 would be my preferred line up every day of the week.

 

[Newbury Blade]

Do you think Selles knows how shit Robbo is? Having been skipper and an ever present in the latter part of the season. Just hope he's done his homework. Don't believe the hype!

Well he saw him play against Hull.

 

[dexter101]

League 1 hoof. Most teams were bypassing the press. By going over it.

So does this mean that playing this way only works if the opposition are too proud to revert to long ball football?

Genuinely curious about this.

We also don't have the quickest full backs at the moment so if we did this, surely we will just get picked off by those teams who play to win rather than wedded to an attractive style of football?

 

[Blade56]

I don’t understand all these formations, I’m just used to Wilderball and Warnockball…..l

 

[robbiez666]

So does this mean that playing this way only works if the opposition are too proud to revert to long ball football?

Genuinely curious about this.

We also don't have the quickest full backs at the moment so if we did this, surely we will just get picked off by those teams who play to win rather than wedded to an attractive style of football?

He changed the formation to drop another midfielder in the middle, which solved it. He seems quite good at adapting to the circumstances.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

So does this mean that playing this way only works if the opposition are too proud to revert to long ball football?

Genuinely curious about this.

We also don't have the quickest full backs at the moment so if we did this, surely we will just get picked off by those teams who play to win rather than wedded to an attractive style of football?

From what I've seen/read about Selles since his appointment, he seems to favour closing down teams quickly to win the ball back or enforce errors under pressure. On the flip side he then either wants the team to play quick passes to get around teams closing them down in the same manner, or hold onto the ball and drive forward with it if no one is closing them down (Hallelujah, I've been asking for this for years. No more static subbuteo football.

I'll be interested how Campbell will cope with this. If he could only manage 60-65 minutes under Wilder playing his style of football, there's no way he'll last the same playing Selles' way. On the other hand O'Hare should thrive in this system as this is exactly how he likes to play.

Track back and tackle ️
Quick passes under pressure ️
Keep the ball and dribble with it ️

 

[dexter101]

From what I've seen/read about Selles since his appointment, he seems to favour closing down teams quickly to win the ball back or enforce errors under pressure. On the flip side he then either wants the team to play quick passes to get around teams closing them down in the same manner, or hold onto the ball and drive forward with it if no one is closing them down (Hallelujah, I've been asking for this for years. No more static subbuteo football.

I'll be interested how Campbell will cope with this. If he could only manage 60-65 minutes under Wilder playing his style of football, there's no way he'll last the same playing Selles' way. On the other hand O'Hare should thrive in this system as this is exactly how he likes to play.

Track back and tackle ️
Quick passes under pressure ️
Keep the ball and dribble with it ️

It seems like it has the potential to be a really exciting (successful is a different matter) season on this basis.

Its always the difficulty isn't it, new ideas, which players can make it and which can't.

You would like to think Campbell has been brought back to general fitness with a season of being well managed. With a good pre season, will he get fitter or is 60 minutes the best he can do?

I am looking forward to seeing more of O'hare. Would suit Anel if we can keep him and Seriki and Burrows.

It does seem like someone who requires a high level of fitness is taking over a squad which I wouldn't personally list fitness as a core strength...

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

So does this mean that playing this way only works if the opposition are too proud to revert to long ball football?

Genuinely curious about this.

We also don't have the quickest full backs at the moment so if we did this, surely we will just get picked off by those teams who play to win rather than wedded to an attractive style of football?

Apparently a previous player under Selles described matches in his team as like basketball games - end to end.

 

[Aston max]

I don’t understand all these formations, I’m just used to Wilderball and Warnockball…..l

This was my centre half philosophy !!

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

It seems like it has the potential to be a really exciting (successful is a different matter) season on this basis.

Its always the difficulty isn't it, new ideas, which players can make it and which can't.

You would like to think Campbell has been brought back to general fitness with a season of being well managed. With a good pre season, will he get fitter or is 60 minutes the best he can do?

I am looking forward to seeing more of O'hare. Would suit Anel if we can keep him and Seriki and Burrows.

It does seem like someone who requires a high level of fitness is taking over a squad which I wouldn't personally list fitness as a core strength...

Funnily enough Burrows, Anel, Seriki and O'Hare were the same players who I immediately thought of when it came to who would most likely suit this system. Arblaster and Hamer would fit in well too, but we're only likely to see two of O'Hare, Hamer and Arblaster in any match if Selles is true to his word of not playing people out of position.

 

[dexter101]

Funnily enough Burrows, Anel, Seriki and O'Hare were the same players who I immediately thought of when it came to who would most likely suit this system. Arblaster and Hamer would fit in well too, but we're only likely to see two of O'Hare, Hamer and Arblaster in any match if Selles is true to his word of not playing people out of position.

Makes the bench look strong if one of those 3 is there.

Obviously depends if Hamer is still here too.

I have watched the U21s a few times on youtube but do they tend to play the same style of football as the first team?

Few names in there who will be interesting to see how they develop to a new style of football too. Marsh, seems to be someone who although on the slighter side, has a bit of an engine and skill to work into this style of play?

 

[ancientblade]

if selles likes the attacking overlapping full backs seriki and burrows will suit his system perfectly one of our main problems last season was that both rak-saki and hamer had to come back inside to get crosses in under this set up both players can whip early crosses in from the outside im quite optimistic with selles dont think wilders system suited.a lot of them

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Opened this thread and thought it was probably about a 70's film probably starring Robert Redford probably wearing a kipper tie and sunglasses indoors.

 

[Lowen]

4-2-2-2 is the gold standard mythical formation for any manager who is influenced by the German counter-pressing style and it rarely works in practice. Would be a red flag if he tried to embed it in pre season because he’ll inevitably have to switch to the more conventional 4-3-3 that he’s used more often.

 

[Lmaobob]

I would have Peck at the side of souza

Arblaster and Hamer in the 2 attacking positions.

Peck is better defensively, Arblaster better offensively

Peck would need to cover the full backs when they're overlapped so i think it'd be a perfect fit