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The Selles formation is said to be 4 - 2 -2 -2 with two number tens and over lapping full backs so from current squad what would your team be ?

Cooper
Seriki Anel Robbo Burrows
Souza Arblaster
Hamer O Hare
Canon Campbell

Bench

Peck Brooks One Moore McCallum A. Davies T Davies

Right back required 1/2 centre back 1/2, striker plus replace any out goings
 

acko17 said:
The Selles formation is said to be 4 - 2 -2 -2 with two number tens and over lapping full backs so from current squad what would your team be ?

Cooper
Seriki Anel Robbo Burrows
Souza Arblaster
Hamer O Hare
Canon Campbell

Bench

Peck Brooks One Moore McCallum A. Davies T Davies

Right back required 1/2 centre back 1/2, striker plus replace any out goings
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Didn't he switch to 4-3-3 at Reading because the 4-2-2-2 wasn't working?
 
I read that was a formation he used at Reading. Could be great for Burrows and Seriki's development if he can stay fit.

If we do go something like that, it's very attacking, and immediately draws attention to improvement needed in the middle of defence. Souza for his defensive qualities will be massively important in that formation too.
 
I don't think we can assume what tactic he'll use until pre-season gets going. His Hull side played 4-3-3 at the Lane, so it's hard to reason that he'll go 4-2-2-2, when we have first hand experience of him not playing that way.

Having read up on how he likes to play, I feel like we'd be better off with 3 in midfield. A lot of pressing is instigated by the CMs, so having a third body in there would lighten the workload. Plus it makes it easier to retain possession if there's an option to play triangles in midfield.

However, I look forward to seeing what he does with this squad, regardless of formation.
 
4-2-2-2 is his preferred system but he abandoned it at reading and hull because the players didn't suit it

I'm not sure if it works work here
The midfield have to get through a lot of work, be interesting to see what he lands on with us
 
The guys are used to 4-2-3-1 ,we just fell short because of player quality, square pegs in round holes.
Completely agree with the recruitment though
Right back
2/3 centre halves
3 attacking players ( guys who will get us off our seats again)
7 first 11 quality though please
 
Instead of coming in saying I’ll play 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2 etc, you’d like to think the first thing he would do is look at the current playing staff.

He might even draw up a list of his top 11 players and then ask himself which system would allow the maximum of those players on the field at once?

In Peck, Arblaster, Davies, Souza, Hamer, O’Hare, Brooks, Shackleton he has a lot of high end Champhionship midfield options.

Take 4-3-3 for instance or 4-2-3-1. They give him a a chance to pick as many as 5 of those midfield options. But the downside is just one striker berth.

We don’t have a lot of wingers really. We have potentially the 2 options from Bulgaria and Caceres. But do we need to adopt a system which needs wingers and welcome that expense when we have so many good midfielders?

A midfield diamond gets you 4 midfielders in. Maybe you don’t have a second striker and you have a second number ten?

———————Souza———————
Arblaster——————————Peck
————O’Hare———Hamer————

Maybe he thinks of something else original? What about 4-1-2-2-1?

You still have Brooks, Davies and Shackleton and you can rotate some of those around. I think Caceres can play as a 10 and a Blacker may well play a few games.

You’ve already 4 strikers in Campbell, Cannon, Moore and Oné for just one berth. Also Louis Marsh. How many do you need?

Then if that’s your plan A, you don’t need to carry an expensive plan B. But you’ve got Brooks, Caceres, Itaki and Nwachukwu if you want to add width. I’m not talking for a sustained period, more a 15-30 minute stint if you want to change things up.

You add Cooper, and Davies is still in contract. We’re ok at left back. Right back, you hope Seriki is fit, Shackleton is fit and perhaps even Sagdev in the mix but you do probably need a reliable experienced right back.

You definitely need another centre back to potentially partner Anel so Robbo drops down, unless you decide to refashion Souza as a ball playing centre back to get him in there.

A lot was made of the fact that Wilder didn’t really have us playing a great style despite the players and we relied too much on individuals. Perhaps rather than the players changing, perhaps a new coach will get a more creative style out of the current bunch whilst adding very little?

Personally I like the idea of that midfield with Hamer and O’Hare as 10s.

We have a full squad right now, so if some come in, you have to think other potential favourites may leave.
 
Aston max said:
The guys are used to 4-2-3-1 ,we just fell short because of player quality, square pegs in round holes.
Completely agree with the recruitment though
Right back
2/3 centre halves
3 attacking players ( guys who will get us off our seats again)
7 first 11 quality though please
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Who are we selling?

You’ll have far too many players if you add 7 first 11 players.

We have a full squad already of 22 players excluding Brewster.

www.sufc.co.uk

Retained list

Sheffield United can now confirm our retained list following the conclusion of the 2024/25 season.
www.sufc.co.uk www.sufc.co.uk

We then have 22 development players. This figures includes those that have been around the first team squad such as Oné, Baptiste, Blacker, Faxon, Sachdev, Sasnauskas plus loanees who have been close such as Buyabu, Curtis, Marsh, Hampson, Freckleton and Hackford.

So 34 players who have been with the first team.

If you’re adding 7, who’s off? We aren’t going to be carrying 41 first team options, even if some of those listed are young, many have either already played or have reached 21 already and should be playing somewhere.
 
acko17 said:
The Selles formation is said to be 4 - 2 -2 -2 with two number tens and over lapping full backs so from current squad what would your team be ?

Cooper
Seriki Anel Robbo Burrows
Souza Arblaster
Hamer O Hare
Canon Campbell

Bench

Peck Brooks One Moore McCallum A. Davies T Davies

Right back required 1/2 centre back 1/2, striker plus replace any out goings
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Stopped reading at Robbo, needs farming out to league 1,
 
I wouldn't read too much into the formation he used as he didn't have much to spend at both clubs so would have had to make do.
 
Anel Ahmedhodžić, could move on
Oliver Arblaster, first choice
Andre Brooks, this season not given enough of a chance in a correct position
Harrison Burrows, first choice
Jefferson Cáceres, complete unknown atm
Tyrese Campbell, first choice
Tom Cannon, needs a pre season personally think this lad could do well
Michael Cooper, first choice
Adam Davies, my arse nips the seat everytime he plays
Tom Davies, complete class needs fitness issues sorting
Ivo Grbic, gone
Gustavo Hamer, pure class hopefully plays central
Sam McCallum, left side back up
Kieffer Moore, honestly unless something changes he's not going to get much game time
Rhys Norrington-Davies, sorry to say he's finished
Christian Nwachukwu, complete unknown
Callum O'Hare, class starts for me
Sydie Peck, looks like he's moving ( hopefully not ) suspect agent agitation
Jack Robinson, never been more than a back up
Femi Seriki, excited by this lad
Jamie Shackleton, injury backup
Vini Souza. All hail vini 😁
 

Aston max said:
Anel Ahmedhodžić, could move on
Oliver Arblaster, first choice
Andre Brooks, this season not given enough of a chance in a correct position
Harrison Burrows, first choice
Jefferson Cáceres, complete unknown atm
Tyrese Campbell, first choice
Tom Cannon, needs a pre season personally think this lad could do well
Michael Cooper, first choice
Adam Davies, my arse nips the seat everytime he plays
Tom Davies, complete class needs fitness issues sorting
Ivo Grbic, gone
Gustavo Hamer, pure class hopefully plays central
Sam McCallum, left side back up
Kieffer Moore, honestly unless something changes he's not going to get much game time
Rhys Norrington-Davies, sorry to say he's finished
Christian Nwachukwu, complete unknown
Callum O'Hare, class starts for me
Sydie Peck, looks like he's moving ( hopefully not ) suspect agent agitation
Jack Robinson, never been more than a back up
Femi Seriki, excited by this lad
Jamie Shackleton, injury backup
Vini Souza. All hail vini 😁
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Brooks was given plenty of chances last season but he was inconsistent. One game he looked good, the next poor. He struggled to command a starting position all season despite being available for the majority of it. He worked better as an impact sub.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Brooks was given plenty of chances last season but he was inconsistent. One game he looked good, the next poor. He struggled to command a starting position all season despite being available for the majority of it. He worked better as an impact sub.
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Don't you think he was better on the left though ?
Just wonder how he'd play with a bit more freedom
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Brooks was given plenty of chances last season but he was inconsistent. One game he looked good, the next poor. He struggled to command a starting position all season despite being available for the majority of it. He worked better as an impact sub.
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He's a lad I've always had high hopes for
You can see thee are all the raw ingredients there but like a few other of the youngsters wilder might have picked them but he doesn't really develop them as players ,just makes them more cautious and game savvy
Hopefully selles can improve them as he does have a reputation for working with youngsters
 
Aston max said:
Anel Ahmedhodžić, could move on
Oliver Arblaster, first choice
Andre Brooks, this season not given enough of a chance in a correct position
Harrison Burrows, first choice
Jefferson Cáceres, complete unknown atm
Tyrese Campbell, first choice
Tom Cannon, needs a pre season personally think this lad could do well
Michael Cooper, first choice
Adam Davies, my arse nips the seat everytime he plays
Tom Davies, complete class needs fitness issues sorting
Ivo Grbic, gone
Gustavo Hamer, pure class hopefully plays central
Sam McCallum, left side back up
Kieffer Moore, honestly unless something changes he's not going to get much game time
Rhys Norrington-Davies, sorry to say he's finished
Christian Nwachukwu, complete unknown
Callum O'Hare, class starts for me
Sydie Peck, looks like he's moving ( hopefully not ) suspect agent agitation
Jack Robinson, never been more than a back up
Femi Seriki, excited by this lad
Jamie Shackleton, injury backup
Vini Souza. All hail vini 😁
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If I'm honest atm any 11 I could pick from this list plus from development etc
Cooper
Seriki-anel-baptiste- burrows
Vini-peck
Ohare-blaster-hamer ( bit controversial I know)
Campbell

Subs
Gk faxon
Rb Shackleton
Lb mccallam
Cb ??
Mid T Davies, brooks
Forward Cannon
 
Frank the tank said:
4-2-2-2 is his preferred system but he abandoned it at reading and hull because the players didn't suit it

I'm not sure if it works work here
The midfield have to get through a lot of work, be interesting to see what he lands on with us
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With the players we've currently got, 4-2-2-2 might be the best solution at the moment.

We've got O'Hare who plays best at CAM, and while Hamer (if he stays) is comfortable at LW, a lot of us (including myself) would like to see him play as a CAM.

Andre Brooks played RW last season but played at CM in the PL, could he do a job as a CAM?

Out of the four strikers currently under contract for next season, Campbell is comfortable as both a lone striker or part of a partnership, Cannon and Moore play better in a partnership, and Oné we haven't seen enough of him to judge this yet (I think Oné and Campbell could be a good pair of used correctly).

Key part of it will be who plays in those 2 CM positions in front of the back 4, because you'd want a mixture of physicality, goal threat, progressive passing and the ability to run at players with the ball.
 
I’ve been thinking for some time that 4 3 3 would suit us you need to score goals in this division to go up and our club is built on hard working players so midfield should have legs and tackles in them ultimately it’ll depend on the manager and which players are at his disposal
 
loyalblade95 said:
With the players we've currently got, 4-2-2-2 might be the best solution at the moment.

We've got O'Hare who plays best at CAM, and while Hamer (if he stays) is comfortable at LW, a lot of us (including myself) would like to see him play as a CAM.

Andre Brooks played RW last season but played at CM in the PL, could he do a job as a CAM?

Out of the four strikers currently under contract for next season, Campbell is comfortable as both a lone striker or part of a partnership, Cannon and Moore play better in a partnership, and Oné we haven't seen enough of him to judge this yet (I think him and Campbell could be a good pair of used correctly).

Key part of it will be who plays in those 2 CM positions in front of the back 4, because you'd want a mixture of physicality, goal threat, progressive passing and the ability to run at players with the ball.
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Yeah i think so too
I'm not quite sure how a 4-2-2-2 works as I've never seen a team play it but I guess the four midfielders woukd have to have clearly defined roles and excellent fitness, with a lot of short sprints and an emphasis on pressing in numbers
As you say ( focusing on that midfield) the two 6's we have plenty of candidates with Blaster and Peck sounding like the kind of players selles prefers and for the 8's hamer and o hare seem perfect with others like Davies and brooks filling in
Cannon and Campbell dont seem like the most energetic of pressers though and you wouldn't imagine Moore has the legs so aside from the fact we need three defenders it seems we need three attackers as well so we could see a lot of movement unless selles adapts his tactics around the players he has
 
Frank the tank said:
Yeah i think so too
I'm not quite sure how a 4-2-2-2 works as I've never seen a team play it but I guess the four midfielders woukd have to have clearly defined roles and excellent fitness, with a lot of short sprints and an emphasis on pressing in numbers
As you say ( focusing on that midfield) the two 6's we have plenty of candidates with Blaster and Peck sounding like the kind of players selles prefers and for the 8's hamer and o hare seem perfect with others like Davies and brooks filling in
Cannon and Campbell dont seem like the most energetic of pressers though and you wouldn't imagine Moore has the legs so aside from the fact we need three defenders it seems we need three attackers as well so we could see a lot of movement unless selles adapts his tactics around the players he has
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I think Stockport used it a few times towards the end of the season but I don't know if they carried on using it in the playoffs?
 

acko17 said:
The Selles formation is said to be 4 - 2 -2 -2 with two number tens and over lapping full backs so from current squad what would your team be ?

Cooper
Seriki Anel Robbo Burrows
Souza Arblaster
Hamer O Hare
Canon Campbell

Bench

Peck Brooks One Moore McCallum A. Davies T Davies

Right back required 1/2 centre back 1/2, striker plus replace any out goings
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I don't think we need more than one McCallum
 
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