CONFIRMED Rubén Sellés - Three year deal

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In fairness to Wilder, you still have to win those games. We were doing a better job of it than everyone else until late in the season.

Look at clubs like WBA, Watford, Boro, Norwich, Blackburn who often have really good players but can't be consistent.

The football was poor though and there were massive red flags over fitness and inability to play for 90+ minutes.
I agree. I’m not saying Wilder had nothing to do with it. More, I think our edge was largely down to better players being able to produce something, rather than tactical or managerial superiority. This is evidenced somewhat by only picking up 1 point from the dozen or so available, when we played teams with players as good as ours.
 

I really think we should treat this with cautious optimism.

As discussed, this will be his first time managing whats likely to be on Paper, a top 4 club (assuming he gets the backing to replace any players we need to sell).

His CV shows he has been surrounded by lots of different structures, taking on lots of different roles. He will definitely make use of international markets - something a lot of fans have wanted us to do succesfully more often (Not Bennie Traore's).
 
Just to be pedantic, due to starting the season with a minus two points deduction, winning the "three games" (Oxford, etc.) that get mentioned, would have us ending the season on 99 points, still not enough for automatic, and still having to go to Wembley.

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I like Chris Wilder, he rescued us from that turgid period in League One, taking us all the way to competing in the top flight (little old Sheffield United pulling back a last-gasp equaliser, against the mighty Manchester United, thanks to Oli McBurnie), I wish him well and hope he is happy in what ever he decides to do, whether that is continuing in management, or becoming a TV pundit, or retiring.

But we have to back the new manager, whoever that is. If it is Selles, as expected, then he has a big job on his hands, because expectations will be high and we don't have enough pace in the team to play the style he prefers, in my opinion. But we have to back him, as fans.

We have to get behind the team, every game, as always.
 
Just to be pedantic, due to starting the season with a minus two points deduction, winning the "three games" (Oxford, etc.) that get mentioned, would have us ending the season on 99 points, still not enough for automatic, and still having to go to Wembley.

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I like Chris Wilder, he rescued us from that turgid period in League One, taking us all the way to competing in the top flight (little old Sheffield United pulling back a last-gasp equaliser, against the mighty Manchester United, thanks to Oli McBurnie), I wish him well and hope he is happy in what ever he decides to do, whether that is continuing in management, or becoming a TV pundit, or retiring.

But we have to back the new manager, whoever that is. If it is Selles, as expected, then he has a big job on his hands, because expectations will be high and we don't have enough pace in the team to play the style he prefers, in my opinion. But we have to back him, as fans.

We have to get behind the team, every game, as always.

We always had to beat Burnley. That was the season make or break and we just couldn't do it. P4 W0 v top 2. For a team that was flying it was unacceptable (along with the way we lost that game as well). Imo.
 
The board and him have to get off to a good start otherwise he fans will turn, it won't be pleasant
Whooooo not the fans turning !

We the fans need to accept some short term pain in order to drag our club up the modern standard expected on today’s world. It’s not going to happen over night there is no quick fix.

Shoes off in the car park demanding John from the local butcher who likes a pie to be new manager is so short term thinking it’s cringe worthy.

Give it time even if results drop off if we can see a clear strategy for the next 3 years I’m happy.
 
So are we becoming the Man Utd of the championship? A bunch of self entitled mardy expectant babies?
It’s a disease pretty much across all fans of all clubs. I’m not old enough to know if there was a moment when people started really caring more about their club - professionalism? - but it’s definitely gone on a while it’s just the big difference now is that we’re all so online. The most extreme voices are the loudest.
 

Whooooo not the fans turning !

We the fans need to accept some short term pain in order to drag our club up the modern standard expected on today’s world. It’s not going to happen over night there is no quick fix.

Shoes off in the car park demanding John from the local butcher who likes a pie to be new manager is so short term thinking it’s cringe worthy.

Give it time even if results drop off if we can see a clear strategy for the next 3 years I’m happy.
I completely agree. Unfortunately that just won't happen if things don't start well. It's not how most football fans work. It's not how the world works these days. Instant gratification or nothing.
 
I completely agree. Unfortunately that just won't happen if things don't start well. It's not how most football fans work. It's not how the world works these days. Instant gratification or nothing.
Well we are gonna have to accept some pain and suck it up
 
One goal per game?
I thought he was some sort of attacking genius or summat.
And let's not forget that three of those bastards were at Bramall Lane in a fluke win that had nowt to do with tactics but everything to do with spoz
Say you didn't watch the game without telling us you didn't watch the game
 
Just to be pedantic, due to starting the season with a minus two points deduction, winning the "three games" (Oxford, etc.) that get mentioned, would have us ending the season on 99 points, still not enough for automatic, and still having to go to Wembley.

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I like Chris Wilder, he rescued us from that turgid period in League One, taking us all the way to competing in the top flight (little old Sheffield United pulling back a last-gasp equaliser, against the mighty Manchester United, thanks to Oli McBurnie), I wish him well and hope he is happy in what ever he decides to do, whether that is continuing in management, or becoming a TV pundit, or retiring.

But we have to back the new manager, whoever that is. If it is Selles, as expected, then he has a big job on his hands, because expectations will be high and we don't have enough pace in the team to play the style he prefers, in my opinion. But we have to back him, as fans.

We have to get behind the team, every game, as always.
When we kicked off at Oxford we were 4 points ahead of the other two
If we had beat them the pressure was really on them and at the time Lees had looked like they were wobbling .
Taht three games capitulation took the pressure off them and the rest of the season was a stress free procession
 
Well we are gonna have to accept some pain and suck it up
Thing is this isn’t the run of the mill situation. Those fans who didn’t want Wilder’s return are loving it which is fair enough, but others feel that replacing a hugely successful manager with Selles is an unbelievable gamble. Only thing I can see is that relationships must have broken down, Wilder can be quite balshy! It does put a different perspective on this change than for most clubs and yes many will be saying “I told you so” if we aren’t in the top 2 come November. Much as I think we are doing the wrong thing, we have to give them a chance but promotion this season is the absolute minimum we should expect if they feel Selles is better than Wilder as pretty sure Wilder would get us up in this crucial season for finances.
 
We have to support Selles whether we wanted him or not. I would have liked a more proven candidate tbh but I can see promise with Selles. It's a huge gamble and I'm surprised the board think he's the best candidate for the job. As I say though, I'll give him my backing.

I'll miss Wilder a lot, I think he's been very harshly treated and it's a gamble I hope pays off. I have my doubts.
 
Thing is this isn’t the run of the mill situation. Those fans who didn’t want Wilder’s return are loving it which is fair enough, but others feel that replacing a hugely successful manager with Selles is an unbelievable gamble. Only thing I can see is that relationships must have broken down, Wilder can be quite balshy! It does put a different perspective on this change than for most clubs and yes many will be saying “I told you so” if we aren’t in the top 2 come November. Much as I think we are doing the wrong thing, we have to give them a chance but promotion this season is the absolute minimum we should expect if they feel Selles is better than Wilder as pretty sure Wilder would get us up in this crucial season for finances.
I don't think there's been any relationship break down. It's simply that the owners don't see Wilder as the man to see our their vision of where they want this football club to go.

They've probably looked at his transfers. The way he gets the team to play and subsequent performances. The system he chooses and team selections. His in game management. His conduct on and off the pitch.

They've probably looked beyond just results and the final league position and decided that he is not the man they want to take us up and probably isn't the man they think can keep us up.

They want to modernise this club from top to bottom and have probably decided that Wilder is not a modern manager and never will be.

They probably all get on fine and agree on a lot of things. Unfortunately for Wilder football is a ruthless business and they just don't see him as the man they want to carry out their long term plans.
 
Any new manager is a gamble. Most thought Adkins was going to be fantastic until it turned out he was woefully inept.

This feels like the start of a new post-Wilder era. I'm excited to see what direction Selles takes us (and hoping it's upwards with high intensity attacking football). Bring on next season!
 
When we kicked off at Oxford we were 4 points ahead of the other two
If we had beat them the pressure was really on them and at the time Lees had looked like they were wobbling .
Taht three games capitulation took the pressure off them and the rest of the season was a stress free procession
People say the 2 points didn't matter but I really do think it played a part. It gave us far less room for error. Imagine being 6 points clear for that game and losing wouldn't be as bad. The pressure clearly got to us that week
 

I don't think there's been any relationship break down. It's simply that the owners don't see Wilder as the man to see our their vision of where they want this football club to go.

They've probably looked at his transfers. The way he gets the team to play and subsequent performances. The system he chooses and team selections. His in game management. His conduct on and off the pitch.

They've probably looked beyond just results and the final league position and decided that he is not the man they want to take us up and probably isn't the man they think can keep us up.

They want to modernise this club from top to bottom and have probably decided that Wilder is not a modern manager and never will be.

They probably all get on fine and agree on a lot of things. Unfortunately for Wilder football is a ruthless business and they just don't see him as the man they want to carry out their long term plans.
Away with your common sense theory 😉
 
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