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You are absolutely correct, but this won’t go down well with the premature ejaculators. If we don’t get more than 92 points they will consider it a failure no matter what developments for the future are taking shape.
I can take not getting promoted if we establish a playing style and see players improving as the season goes on. The long term reward will be far bigger than the short term reward and give us a better chance of going up and staying up.
 

I can take not getting promoted if we establish a playing style and see players improving as the season goes on. The long term reward will be far bigger than the short term reward and give us a better chance of going up and staying up.
Why did you have to bring me into it?
 
I can take not getting promoted if we establish a playing style and see players improving as the season goes on. The long term reward will be far bigger than the short term reward and give us a better chance of going up and staying up.
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You are absolutely correct, but this won’t go down well with the premature ejaculators. If we don’t get more than 92 points they will consider it a failure no matter what developments for the future are taking shape.
Slav was given until November before he got his P45. Our fans aren't noted for their patience. We demand instant success.

Luckily Hecky proved to be the right man at the right time, but the binning of Slav's project after four months of the season implies that we can forget all about three-year plans. It's probably immediate promotion or the dole queue these days.
 
Dušan Kerkez who also had a cushy couple of spells at Limassol in Cyprus.
There's multiple teams in Limassol, he was specifically with AEL, Chris Coleman was their manager last season. They've been dreadful for a while. Aris are now the top dogs in Limassol with Apollon behind them. All 3 teams play at the same stadium, the Alfa Mega or as I call it the Halfa Mega.
 
I can take not getting promoted if we establish a playing style and see players improving as the season goes on. The long term reward will be far bigger than the short term reward and give us a better chance of going up and staying up.
Sounds good in theory. The one problem though is invariably when these players get to a good standard the big fish come swimming around and we flog them either because we want the money or the players head is turned. Then we are back in the Premiership still without these newly developed world beaters
 
Watching all the external antics and seeing the fines, We need to start acting like a premier league club in the championship and less like a league one team punching above our weight that loves a pint and shouting “lads lads lads”.

Which will always be the culture when wilder is in charge, because he loves the underdog tag. Thats what our football has been, scared, overplaying at the back football with a few tackles to get us going.
 
Slav was given until November before he got his P45. Our fans aren't noted for their patience. We demand instant success.

Luckily Hecky proved to be the right man at the right time, but the binning of Slav's project after four months of the season implies that we can forget all about three-year plans. It's probably immediate promotion or the dole queue these days.
That was under a different owner. Maybe the new ones have some idea what long term planning is, although offering Wilder a new contract last year suggest they might not.
 
I can take not getting promoted if we establish a playing style and see players improving as the season goes on. The long term reward will be far bigger than the short term reward and give us a better chance of going up and staying up.
Fully agree with this.

Wilder has done wonders in previous years on getting Utd into the premier league and finishing nearer the top. As time went on you got the feeling that next level would not be achievable and certain signings proved that.

We really need a new manager who can sign skilful ,composed and fit players needed for the top league.
 
Slav was given until November before he got his P45. Our fans aren't noted for their patience. We demand instant success.

Luckily Hecky proved to be the right man at the right time, but the binning of Slav's project after four months of the season implies that we can forget all about three-year plans. It's probably immediate promotion or the dole queue these days.
Slav's system involved wingers and the management decided to not give him wingers on transfer deadline day. Difficult to judge him.
 
That was under a different owner. Maybe the new ones have some idea what long term planning is, although offering Wilder a new contract last year suggest they might not.
I guess they had no option with that. It was pushed for and we were top of the league at the time. Can't really just take over the club and then not give the fan favourite manager what he's demanding.
 
Is another rumour true? The owners/board of Sheffield United have interviewed sausage roll twice. That certainly would be very interesting, it would upset the wendyites if true or is someone somewhere stirring it. I think the latter could be some twat in leeds.
It would upset me as well, 3 home wins all last season. When did this clown become a good manager, not fit to wipe Wilders boots.
 
I can take not getting promoted if we establish a playing style and see players improving as the season goes on. The long term reward will be far bigger than the short term reward and give us a better chance of going up and staying up.
The major flaw to your argument, and it's a rather big one with respect is as others have said, we've got one more season with decent parachute payments. There's no guarantee that if we go up next season or the season after we'll be stronger than now.

The signings of these lads from Bulgaria may well be the next Ndiaye or David Brooks. I've no issue with their signings but I do have an issue if the current or next manager is not able to sign who he wants. If signings are data driven over a managers choice then I have concerns that the players will not be used by the manager, whoever he is.

Of course if they're good enough then logically a manager would be crackers not to use them. We know in January the board financed the signings of several players Wilder wanted. Maybe after most of those haven't come off the board have decided even more so that signings have to be data driven, but we're going to need several players for next season ready to go into the team and all I'm saying is that I'd like those to be who the manager wants.

It's early days to judge the board on recruitment but I'd also assume that the lads we've bought have cost into the millions combined, not big money by any means but much more than £100,000 or whatever the fee was for Ndiaye and same for Peck, Brooks on a free.

I think if the board decides to remove Wilder then they need to clearly state their vision more than they have at present because I'm uncertain of their plan other than vague statements like "we intend to improve every aspect the club" A fans forum allowing questions from the fans would be a great idea.

Also I do think there's some fans on here who are just overly critical of people with opposing views or just throw out insults unnecessarily. We're all Blades fans on here, we're all entitled to an opinion too.
 

These three data led signings have become the fulcrum of the entire operation simply because one of them was signed in between the play off defeat and anything. Else happening

By all accounts they are long term strategic gambles with no effect on this seasons budget or pressure on tre manager to play them

If wilder is going it's be cause he blew what had been a very good job up to the point in the season when he decided to give us all a big fuck you and play Robinson alongside anel

They were targeted as a weakness by Oxford Plymouth and Millwall and that was autos gone and were then exposed in the play off final when a mentally broken team had its first meaningful attack and couldn't believe the time and space afforded to gleefully get back Into a game they had looked like they didn't want to be involved in

He then showed his captains credentials by taking part in a fifth mental capitulation resulting in a fifth defeat in a crunch game where the other team scoring had resulted in our souls being taken and the hard work of an entire season was gone

So if he's been sacked he deserves it and I hope he's haunted by it for the rest of his life ,every time he bumps into a Blade in the boozer I hope it's the only question people ask him for the rest of his days
 
Stating the obvious, but some on here seem to struggle

We will sign established players as well as AI data kids

there I said it

So all the Fanny’s and bed wetters who think our team next season will be Bulgarian 20 year olds, it wont

Buy 10 for £100k each, 1 comes good = great business

They don’t amass that wealth by been fuckin stupid
 
These three data led signings have become the fulcrum of the entire operation simply because one of them was signed in between the play off defeat and anything. Else happening

By all accounts they are long term strategic gambles with no effect on this seasons budget or pressure on tre manager to play them

If wilder is going it's be cause he blew what had been a very good job up to the point in the season when he decided to give us all a big fuck you and play Robinson alongside anel

They were targeted as a weakness by Oxford Plymouth and Millwall and that was autos gone and were then exposed in the play off final when a mentally broken team had its first meaningful attack and couldn't believe the time and space afforded to gleefully get back Into a game they had looked like they didn't want to be involved in

He then showed his captains credentials by taking part in a fifth mental capitulation resulting in a fifth defeat in a crunch game where the other team scoring had resulted in our souls being taken and the hard work of an entire season was gone

So if he's been sacked he deserves it and I hope he's haunted by it for the rest of his life ,every time he bumps into a Blade in the boozer I hope it's the only question people ask him for the rest of his days
That last paragraph Frank. I just don't get that at all. If you think it's time for a change that's your opinion and shared by others too although not by the majority on my view. However he's done his best for the club, he's one of our best ever managers and has given the fan base some of the best memories we've had unless you're old enough to remember us winning things back in 1925.

You don't know he's been sacked as you put it, and if he has been sacked it's very subjective to say he deserves it and we don't know why, if he goes, why he's gone unless the owners tell us and I suspect it's largely to do with recruitment not the failure to go up.
 
That last paragraph Frank. I just don't get that at all. If you think it's time for a change that's your opinion and shared by others too although not by the majority on my view. However he's done his best for the club, he's one of our best ever managers and has given the fan base some of the best memories we've had unless you're old enough to remember us winning things back in 1925.

You don't know he's been sacked as you put it, and if he has been sacked it's very subjective to say he deserves it and we don't know why, if he goes, why he's gone unless the owners tell us and I suspect it's largely to do with recruitment not the failure to go up.
If he's gone ,he's gone because tge Americans recognise that he bottled promotion
He picked a mentally and physically weak centre back pairing that spread indecision and panic throughout the team

Every one could see it but Chrissy knew best
Well you reap what you sow
 
Cha
Stating the obvious, but some on here seem to struggle

We will sign established players as well as AI data kids

there I said it

So all the Fanny’s and bed wetters who think our team next season will be Bulgarian 20 year olds, it wont

Buy 10 for £100k each, 1 comes good = great business

They don’t amass that wealth by been fuckin stupid
The argument against that logic re wealth and stupidity is chairman like Chansiri and decisions like what Birmingham did in sacking a manager in 5th and appointing Wayne Rooney. I appreciate Birmingham have since gone up and look strong.

There's also a lot more money that goes into signings than a transfer alone like agents fees and of course wages for ten players. You're right I'm sure we're not only going to sign players from Bulgaria but I think fannies like me as you put it are concerned that the recruitment is going to be data led, not by the manager or coach who decides on the tactics. It's got to be a two way process and maybe it will be at this moment in time I'm concerned on recruitment.
 
If he's gone ,he's gone because tge Americans recognise that he bottled promotion
He picked a mentally and physically weak centre back pairing that spread indecision and panic throughout the team

Every one could see it but Chrissy knew best
Well you reap what you sow
I agree on Robbo playing every week was frustrating. I don't know why Wilder didn't play Holding.
 
Stating the obvious, but some on here seem to struggle

We will sign established players as well as AI data kids

there I said it

So all the Fanny’s and bed wetters who think our team next season will be Bulgarian 20 year olds, it wont

Buy 10 for £100k each, 1 comes good = great business

They don’t amass that wealth by been fuckin stupid
We can only have 4 of the special work permits 👍
 
Cha

The argument against that logic re wealth and stupidity is chairman like Chansiri and decisions like what Birmingham did in sacking a manager in 5th and appointing Wayne Rooney. I appreciate Birmingham have since gone up and look strong.

There's also a lot more money that goes into signings than a transfer alone like agents fees and of course wages for ten players. You're right I'm sure we're not only going to sign players from Bulgaria but I think fannies like me as you put it are concerned that the recruitment is going to be data led, not by the manager or coach who decides on the tactics. It's got to be a two way process and maybe it will be at this moment in time I'm concerned on recruitment.
Fatha chancer must be kickin himsen for letting little dejphy get some of the fam money, stopped feeding the bell end now - he was born into it not made it.

I reckon no one has set eyes on the 3 data kids, but if they identify a guy for £5m in say French league I would expect scouts to get out there

Plus we will pick up UK loans, surplus - poss Forest lads?
 
Is another rumour true? The owners/board of Sheffield United have interviewed sausage roll twice. That certainly would be very interesting, it would upset the wendyites if true or is someone somewhere stirring it. I think the latter could be some twat in leeds.

Not sure what he’s done to be on a short list?

6 home wins from 23 games

Surely there are better options than Rohl?
Hopefully bollox?
 
Fact is we have 1 more season of parachute payments before these US investors have massively overpaid £110 million for probably a mid- table Championship club. Hence the infighting amongst them ….. and the fans!!

It’s Shit or Bust .,.. no room for error!


Infighting between the investors?
 
Cha

The argument against that logic re wealth and stupidity is chairman like Chansiri and decisions like what Birmingham did in sacking a manager in 5th and appointing Wayne Rooney. I appreciate Birmingham have since gone up and look strong.

There's also a lot more money that goes into signings than a transfer alone like agents fees and of course wages for ten players. You're right I'm sure we're not only going to sign players from Bulgaria but I think fannies like me as you put it are concerned that the recruitment is going to be data led, not by the manager or coach who decides on the tactics. It's got to be a two way process and maybe it will be at this moment in time I'm concerned on recruitment.

If the manager cannot adapt their tactics to the players they are provided with, then they're probably a shit manager. There are a lot better managers than Wilder or whoever we might get that are guilty of this, one just needs to look at international level where you do not get the luxury of a transfer budget. God rest his soul but if Sven had looked at the presence of having all of Terry, Campbell, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes (plus other pretty solid CB/CM options) at the same time and thought "hmm, I could play 3-5-2 and get these all on the park in natural positions at the same time" rather than going full Mike Bassett, we might win a major trophy
 

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