Outgoing? Chris Wilder

[Blade56]

It wasn’t, it wasn’t by any means awful either

It was turgid, a slow motion season. We knew when we topped the league with points in hand Wilder would bottle and he did. We knew when the second goal was disallowed at Wembley we’d go into survival mode and we did.

we are sacking him after a really great season

It was an awful season to experience.

Sorry Bb got to disagree

 

[YES Blade]

It was an awful season to experience.

Sorry Bb got to disagree

Agreed, for the most part it was like watching a team battling to stay up, not pushing for automatic promotion

 

[Darthblade]

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its not me !

 

[Brownieblade]

It was turgid, a slow motion season. We knew when we topped the league with points in hand Wilder would bottle and he did. We knew when the second goal was disallowed at Wembley we’d go into survival mode and we did.

It was an awful season to experience.

Sorry Bb got to disagree

Must be a slight misread mate, I was saying it’s not like we are sacking him after a great season

 

[Selly]

I really hope you're right. It's a big decision coming by the board in who they appoint next. If fifteen games into next season and we are below mid table it will dent their credibility and half of this forum will be frothing at the mouth for the next change in manager.

If we aren't in the top 6 after 15 games there will be a lot of doom mongers around.

 

[Aston max]

 

[Blade56]

Agreed, for the most part it was like watching a team battling to stay up

That spot on, never felt like we were fighting for promotion, more like hanging on

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

If Chris is going, thank you for all the great memories and your work turning a club around going nowhere fast in 2016. If I ever saw you in the street, at the ground you get a thank you from me, also from when he was a player at the Club. But in my humble opinion I think we need a change from top to bottom at the Club. The fitness levels need improvement drastically. I’m sure the Board have noticed this and appoint a top team to get the players in shape. Fresh ideas on the pitch are required, quicker players which may need to be brought in from Europe and beyond. If a new Manager is incoming I hope it’s the right choice. I know I may get slagged off but I think we missed a chance to do this with Slav. He basically was lied to by the Board and wasn’t able to implement his exciting style of play with the players at his disposal. I’m excited and anxious at the same time, looking forward to the new season.

 

[cooperblade]

Regardless of your views on CW's performance last season, I think it's quite hard to make a strong case that replacing him now as we enter our final season with a big chunk of parachute payments is the most likely way of achieving promotion. I think we should probably be leaning more towards short-term thinking now and then moving to a more medium-term view if we don't get promoted.

It would need something unexpected to happen for this season not to be our best chance of promotion in the next decade and I'd rather go tried and tested in that scenario.

I also think that making this decision (whichever way they go but particularly if they sack him) in mid-June is really poor.

 

[NerdyBlade]

I'll say this though if the Wilder rumours are true - who is actually available that would a) want the job and b) is going to be okay with the new owners transfer strategy?

I can't think of anyone available that we have a chance of getting or that would take the risk?

 

[ATL Recs]

Regardless of your views on CW's performance last season, I think it's quite hard to make a strong case that replacing him now as we enter our final season with a big chunk of parachute payments is the most likely way of achieving promotion. I think we should probably be leaning more towards short-term thinking now and then moving to a more medium-term view if we don't get promoted.

It would need something unexpected to happen for this season not to be our best chance of promotion in the next decade and I'd rather go tried and tested in that scenario.

I also think that making this decision (whichever way they go but particularly if they sack him) in mid-June is really poor.

be better than sacking him in November

 

[Ron_Justice]

I'll say this though if the Wilder rumours are true - who is actually available that would a) want the job and b) is going to be okay with the new owners transfer strategy?

I can't think of anyone available that we have a chance of getting or that would take the risk?

Someone suggested earlier that Rubén Sellés had been interviewed. Risky, but his philosophies seem to align with a modern, data driven approach.

 

[ATL Recs]

I'll say this though if the Wilder rumours are true - who is actually available that would a) want the job and b) is going to be okay with the new owners transfer strategy?

I can't think of anyone available that we have a chance of getting or that would take the risk?

Dont think youve quite grasped this AI lark Spidey- AI is not going to be the strategy its going to be a part of the strategy - the three signings so far have been brought in for development - very much an experiment the rest of the startegy is not out in the public domain yet but does include human interface in picking scouting and chasing players

 

[chesblade]

How can anyone on here say he's going if the meetings today and board is split, can only assume they are speaking to board members who want him gone

 

[54yrblade]

How can anyone on here say he's going if the meetings today and board is split, can only assume they are speaking to board members who want him gone

If the board are split over him being here, then it's hardly solid backing for him whatever the result from today.

 

[The Fox]

How can anyone on here say he's going if the meetings today and board is split, can only assume they are speaking to board members who want him gone

Given that the board are closed knit and say very little I very much doubt there's any truth in thier thinking or opinion .

 

[paidsy]

For me if they are split he has to go. As the first sign of any trouble he will be gone anyway.

 

[blade_ben]

Regardless of your views on CW's performance last season, I think it's quite hard to make a strong case that replacing him now as we enter our final season with a big chunk of parachute payments is the most likely way of achieving promotion. I think we should probably be leaning more towards short-term thinking now and then moving to a more medium-term view if we don't get promoted.

It would need something unexpected to happen for this season not to be our best chance of promotion in the next decade and I'd rather go tried and tested in that scenario.

I also think that making this decision (whichever way they go but particularly if they sack him) in mid-June is really poor.

2 more years of parachute

 

[Youngand70]

Well Caceres and Nwakuchuku had no less impact than Wilder's signing of Harry Clarke, so

Could add Cannon to that as well and oh how much did he cost?

 

[HarryHaslam]

For me if they are split he has to go. As the first sign of any trouble he will be gone anyway.

And if they are in agreement that he stays, you are in agreement too?

 

[TJ blade]

Harry Clarke did at least play for us.

Over use of the word play, he was on the pitch, and that's all credibility I can give him, there is one other word I can use... shite!

 

[paidsy]

And if they are in agreement that he stays, you are in agreement too?

Of course if they think he should stay then he should. I don't think he should, but I have no relevance to any of it and I am not the one chucking millions of my own cash into it.

Clearly if there's a split it's going to increase scrutiny on everything and elevate the risk of him getting canned in the middle of the season. If they start the season with him they may as well finish it with him so if there's any feeling they should make a change it should be done now or he should be backed and everyone move on.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

It was turgid, a slow motion season. We knew when we topped the league with points in hand Wilder would bottle and he did. We knew when the second goal was disallowed at Wembley we’d go into survival mode and we did.

It was an awful season to experience.

Sorry Bb got to disagree

Last season was awful to experience. Deary me I think we've reached peak entitlement

 

[Blade56]

Given that the board are closed knit and say very little I very much doubt there's any truth in thier thinking or opinion .

Been tighten than a a ducks bum so far

 

[NerdyBlade]

Dont think youve quite grasped this AI lark Spidey- AI is not going to be the strategy its going to be a part of the strategy - the three signings so far have been brought in for development - very much an experiment the rest of the startegy is not out in the public domain yet but does include human interface in picking scouting and chasing players

No I get that - but it's very much a case of if Wilder isn't happy with the split, why would another manager be?

 

[Blade56]

2 more years of parachute

I thought it was 1 payment of £35m

 

[Shadota]

For me if they are split he has to go. As the first sign of any trouble he will be gone anyway.

That's the thought process I hope is followed. It would be terrible if the club were to start their preparations for the season, with a manager at the helm whom only has support from half the board.

If they aren't all in agreement that he is the right man for the job, they need to get their shit together and find someone who they do all agree on.

 

[dc_blade]

I'm in favour of making a change and going in a new direction this summer but some of the anti-Wilder stuff is bizarre. It's like people egg each other on to make the most extreme comment.

He's a good manager. He had a good season and got close to promotion. He also showed some of his shortcomings and I'm pretty convinced he's not the man to manage a team with Premier League ambitions. But from reading some of this you'd think he narrowly avoided relegation.

 

[paidsy]

That's the thought process I hope is followed. It would be terrible if the club were to start their preparations for the season, with a manager at the helm whom only has support from half the board.

If they aren't all in agreement that he is the right man for the job, they need to get their shit together and find someone who they do all agree on.

If they are split and proceed with him anyway then they are absolutely totally at fault for any disappointment that follows.

 

[HarryHaslam]

Of course if they think he should stay then he should. I don't think he should, but I have no relevance to any of it and I am not the one chucking millions of my own cash into it.

Clearly if there's a split it's going to increase scrutiny on everything and elevate the risk of him getting canned in the middle of the season. If they start the season with him they may as well finish it with him so if there's any feeling they should make a change it should be done now or he should be backed and everyone move on.

Seems very strange that you are saying if he holds onto his job he should be backed and everyone needs to move on when you were literally on every match day thread ready to pounce soon as a goal went in to say he needs sacking, like every week you were wanting him gone from his job.

Good to see you now think that is the wrong approach and everyone including you needs to move on and back him fully if he remains in the job