Player Suggestion McBurnie on loan

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Fair enough, I was looking at the wrong stats, seemingly! I stand corrected!

There's no doubt McBurnie was better than Canon at the same age. My point really being that despite Canon being perceived as being poor, he is young and can certainly improve on what's already a decent return last season (albeit when he was wearing a Stoke shirt).

Cannon needs to play as a two. McB is different gravy to Moore in terms of linking up, particularly with his feet. He’s also a far better finisher.

For me, Moore could play the James Hanson sub role for us.
 

If we do sign a striker it will be a Moore type to rotate
We already have cannon and Campbell and I cant see us signing. Third unless one gets injured

So.if not mcburnie then it will be riis from Preston or similar
 
I've never understood where this myth comes from that Mcburnie is good with his feet?

Yes he has a good physical presence and is strong in the air, but the ball so often bounced 3 meters away from him when he went to control or dibble.

I want to see us build a fluid, quick attacking force as Plan A and I just do not think this is ever going to be the answer.
 
A fit McBurnie’s a decent championship striker, sounds like a cheap deal, knows the club etc. so not necessarily a bad signing.

Bigger worry for me is that Wilder’s still going after the same players that aren't / weren’t good enough to progress & establish us in the top flight. With Campbell, Cannon, Moore & McB that means no space for One which is a shame as he has more raw potential. Hope he gets a loan this time.

It also suggests we’ll be sticking with the 442, having no control in midfield & playing up to the big man. Again, short term thinking if that’s the case & doesn’t set us up to be successful if we were to get promoted.
 
A fit McBurnie’s a decent championship striker, sounds like a cheap deal, knows the club etc. so not necessarily a bad signing.

Bigger worry for me is that Wilder’s still going after the same players that aren't / weren’t good enough to progress & establish us in the top flight. With Campbell, Cannon, Moore & McB that means no space for One which is a shame as he has more raw potential. Hope he gets a loan this time.

It also suggests we’ll be sticking with the 442, having no control in midfield & playing up to the big man. Again, short term thinking if that’s the case & doesn’t set us up to be successful if we were to get promoted.
We wouldn’t be getting promoted under that mentality. Going 442 playing hoofwaffe ala pulis.
 
I'm guessing that CW has suggested he wants to strengthen the front-line, the board has said "Sound but you've only got X to spend and you know we have to strengthen other places first", so makes sense to bring in a free striker who is a known quantity and hopefully means we aren't spaffing any more money in the wrong places.

This! Absolutely this!

This is precisely what I was trying to say, when I queried whether we could afford a different type of striker, and suggested cost might be an issue, only you've said it a lot better than me!

I wasn't for a minute suggesting that McBurnie's some sort of cheap option, just that it's easier and cheaper to acquire his services, as a known quantity on a free, than it is to seek out new players who are unknown quantities, and pay transfer fees for them.

As you say, we've got other areas to strengthen, and it makes sense to save time and money where we can, by appointing someone we already know, and with no transfer fee involved. It doesn't mean it's parochial or backwards, like a lot are saying, it's just practical.
 
Even if he does come back, Wilder needs to establish some sort of style going forward. We’ve got such a diverse set of strikers but it doesn’t seem we play a system that fits them most of the time. Top goalscorer finishing on 11-13 goals in a side that finished with 90 points doesn’t make sense to me…
Tbf, didn't Ndiaye only get 15/16 league goals when we got promoted under Hecky?

Pretty sure the top scorer that season was Gyokeres, and he was the only player to hit 20+ league goals wasn't he?

For a team that finished on 100 points with the best attack, how many did Piroe score for Leeds, 18, 19?, 7/8 more goals and 10 extra points.
 
I've never understood where this myth comes from that Mcburnie is good with his feet?

Yes he has a good physical presence and is strong in the air, but the ball so often bounced 3 meters away from him when he went to control or dibble.

I want to see us build a fluid, quick attacking force as Plan A and I just do not think this is ever going to be the answer.
Interesting! I always thought the opposite to be fair.
He was a cracking player in his Swansea days, very tidy with his link-up play and also a real fox in the box (mostly Billy Sharp type tap-ins).
When we signed him we tended to use him as a target man, pressuambly because he's tall! I don't see that as his game at all. He may be tall but he's like a streak of piss and not particularly strong. He showed that he could link up very well with technical players like Illiman, Gibbs White and McAtee, and he's wasted as a battering ram type, mainly because he has to foul the defender to get anywhere near the ball.
Would I want him back? Nah - too slow, too injury prone, and we'd only lump it up to him if he signed :-(
 
7 goals from his first 87 league games. Then 19 from his last 59 games. As I said before, if it means we get rid of Moore then I’m fine with it as Moore was a huge downgrade on McBurnie. Just need to find someone to buy Cannon now. Maybe swap him for someone’s dog?
 

Generally by which metrics?
Probably the metrics you’d judge a striker of his skillset by in terms of role in the attacking third, role in build-up play, aerials won, chances created, goals, assists, wider role in the team, the kind of other stuff that isn’t measured by metrics. Also my eyes.
 
Whilst ever Wilder is in charge this is the sort of signing we can expect, time after time.

I though we were supposed to be bringing in players by using modern data-driven methods? He was/is a useless cart horse with little natural ability whose primary aim is to fight with the opposing centre halves.

This signing would be the end of the line for me with Wilder. For God's sake, get him sacked and move forward.

utb
 
Whilst ever Wilder is in charge this is the sort of signing we can expect, time after time.

I though we were supposed to be bringing in players by using modern data-driven methods? He was/is a useless cart horse with little natural ability whose primary aim is to fight with the opposing centre halves.

This signing would be the end of the line for me with Wilder. For God's sake, get him sacked and move forward.

utb
Jesus mate 🤣
Its only a rumour.
 
I do understand that this is looking more behind than forward, however, it'd be difficult not to assume the board are at least considering the end of parachute payments if we fail to win promotion and McBurnie is a decent asset at this level without having to pay a penny in a transfer fee.

He was involved in 25% of our dismal record of 35 goals last season at Premier League level, scoring 3 and assisting 6, in 21 appearances. The season prior at this level scoring 13 and assisting in 2, in a season primarily around getting the ball to, or creating space for Ndiaye.

If we got promoted, we'd be nowhere near him but we are where we are. I'd have no issues with going for him on a 2 year deal with an agreeable salary. He's useful and would be useful to us in both boxes this coming season, whether he starts or comes off the bench. The board have already given a bumper fee of 10m which, at this point, looks to have missed the mark. A sensible bit of spending here adds someone to the squad that, whether you like him or not, would score, assist and defend for Sheffield United this coming season.
 
Some people on here are just on another planet. McBurnie was generally very good for us, and he would be again.
I feel this isn't right

He has a couple of good patches for us and a couple of bad ones. One in the EPL under Wilder and one in the Championship when he sorted himself out under Hecky.

At no stage has he looked like the player he did when we signed him.

How much is he? If he's a couple of million then he's a decent punt but it worries me that he's a player Wilder struggled to use well previously and also a player with huge fitness issues. We can't have two of our four strikers unable to play full games or every game And that's without including Moore in the equation.
 

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