'It's an absolute disgrace'

[Rodley]

CW bob on as usual

 

[The Crab]

a Wednesday fan phoned in wanting to talk about how good they were playing.

Pity they got interrupted by the news flash about Germany invading Poland…

 

[Slim Man]

Part timer.

I know, I even arrived 5 minutes late as well

 

[OLDBLADE43]

I for one cant belive that members of an away following show signs of unhappiness towards said football team they have spent hundreds of pounds to follow

Shame on anyone who showed any signs of disgruntlement 2000 loyalty points deducted and go straight to Jail

It appears CW cant play the there on 60k a week with big hitters card anymore especially against little old Oxford

So has to Create a siege mentality against his own fans who have done a 200+ Mile round trip

Honestly CW can get to Fuck with those comments he reckons blades fans should worship the ground he walks

don't you mean the ground the team walks on?

 

[metalblade]

Our Chrissy is very sensitive is the pressure getting to him maybe? By all accounts most fans clapped at the end but one or two might have gone OTT. Maybe CW wants to take a long hard look at himself in future before having a go at fans who have paid hard earned money on travel and tickets to support the team only to be served up a load of rubbish. At the end of the day if the team don't perform he takes the can and owns it. It doesn't wash with me him having a go at fans who may have had to scrimp and save to pay for the day out, OK for CW he has £4m in his bank account they don't, maybe if he was an ordinary fan he'd understand better why one or two were upset.

One thing is certain having a pop at fans never ends well especially when your team has just put in a shit performance when they had a great chance to put some daylight between us and Leeds. Criticise the players if they make the wrong choices and play like drunks end of the day he is the bloke to make changes he has no excuse of kids on the bench now, maybe a good Warnock style bollocking was deserved at HT or some messages on to the pitch with the subs rather than standing there with his thumb up his arse wondering what to do.

 

[William Large]

Some of the worst mouthy mardy twattts at games over the past few seasons, in my experience, have been those around my age group, 40 plus.

Yeah I have to agree that being a twat isn’t restricted to age. It’s more the entitled behaviour I meant.
There are some proper dregs of society watching most clubs and we have more than our fair share.

 

[Yoonited]

It's obviously to try and stir the fans out of their grey matchstick men and cats and dogs coma and rile them up to get behind the lads on Tuesday
Shame he has to do this but well you know our fans have high expectations

It's not obvious to me.
He could instead say what he means rather than the almost veiled threats proffered.
I don't condone player abuse and they need protection from it so Wilder was right to do so.
He falls over by being too sensitive at times.Bit of a mardy arse who struggles to communicate effectively.
Enigmatic for me.

 

[JJBlade]

Deflection and blame someone else tactic, there's another group of people who specialise in this, they're called narcissists

 

[Nick Jansky]

CW bob on as usual

What?! He’s bobbed on someone?? That’s a bit out of order, not to mention unhygienic. I know he’s got a thing about back doors but that’s taking it too far.

 

[Jon Bon II]

I feel a bit guilty now for turning the telly off and marching into the kitchen to make a cuppa, muttering 'fuckerdy, fuckerdy, fuckerdy fuck' under my breath. Jam tarts are a disgrace!

 

[Gin&Juice]

Deflection and blame someone else tactic, there's another group of people who specialise in this, they're called narcissists

come on lad.

 

[Shawy24]

Wilder is quick to criticise the fans.

Twice this season at home (Burnley and Hull) after the final whistle he's been quick to run down the tunnel and not acknowledge the fans.

It would take a great deal for me to criticise our away support. That's not some sort of freebie they are on.

It's time Wilder grew up.

I can count on the finger of one finger the time that Wilder has acknowledged any fault of his own in tactics, selection, motivation, management or signings since he became our manager.

 

[Zipwire]

The salient facts here.

Chris Wilder rebuilt a new team pretty much from scratch last summer, has put us through in the top two most of the season despite starting off two points behind the rest, and rebuilt a lot of trust with the fan base who thought he was a busted flush at the of last season and should have been sacked (myself included)

We drop points at a well drilled and well organised Oxford side at a ground where plenty of others struggled this season and the world has fallen in.

I’ve seen plenty of poor performances during the last 40 odd years that have been deserving of the players getting pelters. Losing a game for the first time in 8 games isn’t that time.

Having looked at the stuff on here after the match Saturday, it felt like there was one or two who actually seemed satisfied we lost as it meant they could come on here and spout utter fucking crap.

Empty Vessels make the loudest noise

 

[robbiez666]

I agree it's idiotic to turn on the players considering how well we're doing in the league.

But, I'd also say that Wilder is as mardy and as unreasonable as some of the worst fans.

We all remember the sandwich incident. Or his Banner antics.

David Squires on … a day in the life of Chris Wilder, the other Earl of Sandwich

Our cartoonist on why officials might want to keep their lunch hidden when talking to the Sheffield United manager

www.theguardian.com

 

[JayGreen17]

Let’s face it Wilders going to blow promotion having spent all season in the top 2…….

Is he, will he?

My heart says no, my head says the players and Wilder need to be not so complacent and passive in games hoping for the quick transition, and a moment of magic to score then hang on for a win,

The absolute drop off in attitude and application from Coventry to Oxford was stark and if the team wasn’t so bipolar then maybe the fans opinions wouldn’t follow suit.

He’s achieved nothing yet but he keeps blabbing on about the number of wins and the amount of points… they will mean NOTHING, if we don’t end up in the top 2 and gaining promotion.

Tomorrow is a MASSIVE game and is a MUST win.

 

[thehet]

Who? You're making stuff up again. I doubt there's anyone on this forum that hasn't booed at some point. I spent most of last season doing it.

I don’t boo the players, but I love watching other people do it because the whole concept of doing it is so ridiculous and I like laughing at people behaving in such a primitive way. Next time it happens, just look at someone who is booing & you’ll see what I mean, it’s rare to get the opportunity to witness another person looking quite so witless. Or try doing it in the mirror, I guarantee you’ll laugh at what a dick you look

Well there you are Cheesey

 

[Houston_Blade]

It was a bit like losing 1-0 to Rotherham that time the other year, hardly worth abusing players over but I imagine it was 1 or 2 idiots who’d had a bit too much beer and marching dust. Wilder is right to want to protect the players but it’s being blown a bit out of proportion really.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

I agree that Wilder can say what he likes, I've never said he can't. I was replying to your first post stating that it's wrong for fans to be negative and that it makes them entitled. My opinion is that he is far too quick to start rating the performance of supporters. This is far from an isolated incident.

If players are personally abused, the abusers are fair game. I've worked in a lot of customer facing environments and the customer is allowed to show dissatisfaction, within the boundaries my employer sets as allowed

Apologies for not responding sooner, & in in many ways the ‘debate has ‘moved (on?)’

I’m struggling to see where I stated , or even implied “it’s wrong for fans to be negative”

Your initial response took umbrage with my stating “Behave like a twat & expect to be treated like a twat” You now, contradict yourself by stating “If players are personally abused, the abusers are fair game” - perhaps more eloquently stated than my effort but in essence an identical sentiment?

Equally I did not equate “entitlement” with any negativity from the fanbase but with some folks (arrogant?) assumption that we ‘should’ / would beat Oxford. Somewhat paradoxically this has also been implicitly levelled at the players / management.

I can’t / won’t disagree with your view “ the customer is allowed to show dissatisfaction, within the boundaries my employer sets as allowed”
As I previously stated (some of ) the “dissatisfaction” was ‘off the scale’ to a level that was / is unacceptable- Wilder (as the de facto “employer”) in the immediate aftermath highlighted that “boundaries” had been crossed & chose to not “allow” that to go unchallenged.
Whether this was wise is a moot point - I commended him for doing so, you feel differently.
Any-road must dash & ‘brush up’on punctuation afore Slim Man gets their 2nd wind

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Let’s face it Wilders going to blow promotion having spent all season in the top 2…….

Is he, will he?

My heart says no, my head says the players and Wilder need to be not so complacent and passive in games hoping for the quick transition, and a moment of magic to score then hang on for a win,

The absolute drop off in attitude and application from Coventry to Oxford was stark and if the team wasn’t so bipolar then maybe the fans opinions wouldn’t follow suit.

He’s achieved nothing yet but he keeps blabbing on about the number of wins and the amount of points… they will mean NOTHING, if we don’t end up in the top 2 and gaining promotion.

Tomorrow is a MASSIVE game and is a MUST win.

In what respect do the number of games we have won and the amount of points we have accumulated mean nothing?

At the very least , they ensure that we are guaranteed a place in the playoffs but are still in with a good chance of automatic promotion .

At the start of this season most Blades fans including myself would never have thought that this would be the case , given the squad that we had and the general feeling of doom and gloom which pervaded the club as a result of our abject performance in the previous season .

The fact that CW and those around him have turned this around and put us in the position we are now in has to be recognised as an enormous achievement by anyone’s standards .

Yes , the guy can be prickly , ultra sensitive and less than sensibly behaved at times but these characteristics should not be allowed to detract from that he has overseen a revival which has seen our club gain respect and recognition as compared to the laughing stock we had become .

 

[Loco Blade]

It’s us isn’t it . Bell ends fighting ( semi v hull , play off v hud ) coked up clowns . I love the aways but we have a contingent of supporters at aways who frankly are embarrassing

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Agree with Wilder - although I haven't actually heard officially what was said to players I can only imagine a few idiots have insulted players inappropriately. Probably the same fans who've watched Hamers free kick against Coventry on repeat. I get that emotions run high this time of the season but there's no excuse for abusing players in the position we're in.

Things may change again for worse or better after the Millwall game. We could be third or could be top again and 4 points above Leeds and the fan love-in and positivity will start all over again....

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Agree with Wilder - although I haven't actually heard officially what was said to players I can only imagine a few idiots have insulted players inappropriately. Probably the same fans who've watched Hamers free kick against Coventry on repeat. I get that emotions run high this time of the season but there's no excuse for abusing players in the position we're in.

Things may change again for worse or better after the Millwall game. We could be third or could be top again and 4 points above Leeds and the fan love-in and positivity will start all over again....

Feeling disappointed at Oxford is fine but any vitriol is inappropriate. At the end of the day neither Wilder nor the players wanted to lose. It was an 'ah well you can't beat them all" moment.

The fact that teams like Oxford and Hull who have both struggled this season have beaten us is a testament to what a great league the championship is.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

He’s achieved nothing yet but he keeps blabbing on about the number of wins and the amount of points… they will mean NOTHING, if we don’t end up in the top 2 and gaining promotion.

Have they changed how league positions are decided now???
Call me old fashioned, but I thought us gaining more points than anybody else in the league was good thing.

 

[ATL Recs]

Criticism of Saturdays result/performance - completely acceptable

The suggestion in some corners that our season is now over when we are sat in 2nd with 6 games left is completely over the top - I beleive it is this that CW was calling out - and he isn`t wrong.

No he is referencing some idiots at the game

 

[ATL Recs]

Reminiscent of Trippier giving it to the Newcastle fans after the game at Bournemouth last season

 

[Maidenhead]

I agree that Wilder can say what he likes, I've never said he can't. I was replying to your first post stating that it's wrong for fans to be negative and that it makes them entitled. My opinion is that he is far too quick to start rating the performance of supporters. This is far from an isolated incident.

If players are personally abused, the abusers are fair game. I've worked in a lot of customer facing environments and the customer is allowed to show dissatisfaction, within the boundaries my employer sets as allowed

So you're a "customer" of United and you're therefore allowed to show dissatisfaction?

Maybe we should have one stand for customers and another for supporters so that the players know which one to go to and which one to avoid?

Supporters get behind the team, even when things aren't going well. The clue is in the name.

Customers are entitled to exercise their customer rights, and to be honest we'd be better off without them.

 

[Maidenhead]

If a team plays poorly and gets beaten, then every fan base in the country will criticise their team and voice their feelings. Sheffield United’s support is no different, surprised it’s even a talking point. Look at the Leeds supporters at the moment, they have meltdowns when they draw a game.

They need to take accountability and put in decent performances, if the result doesn’t follow then our support will accept that…but we shouldn’t be expected to applaud half arsed, shit performances after spending money to watch them.

Yet in every game played there can only be one winner, and absolutely no one can be be at their best every time that they go to work.

If we have a poor performance, shrug it off and move on to the next one.

Obvious lack of effort is one thing but an off day in terms of performance/result has to be accepted as "just one of those things" and a good boss (supporter) will just be giving encouragement to "get back on the horse"

Fortunately we have had many more good days than bad ones this season, and given where we were back in August I consider that a bloody miracle.

 

[Carlton Blade]

So you're a "customer" of United and you're therefore allowed to show dissatisfaction?

Maybe we should have one stand for customers and another for supporters so that the players know which one to go to and which one to avoid?

Supporters get behind the team, even when things aren't going well. The clue is in the name.

Customers are entitled to exercise their customer rights, and to be honest we'd be better off without them.

Again, I wholeheartedly disagree with people thinking they can grade somebody's support (apart from Nick Jansky obviously). You, nor anyone else has any say over how people choose to act once they are in a stadium. Watching United, or any team play is a choice, that costs money. It's not something people are given for free if they display loyalty.

What you're saying is that the team 'deserve' unreserved support and that's a completely valid opinion.

 

[Grey Blade]

Customers are entitled to exercise their customer rights, and to be honest we'd be better off without them.

I would regard myself as a football customer when I watch any game on TV that doesn't include United (and to a lesser extent Harrogate Town) and it doesn't really matter how I react in my own home.

In general terms as a customer it is possible to be critical without being abusive - and this is where supporters who act primarily as customers go wrong.

It seems to me the team needs support (and a boost) when we go a goal down but this is when least support is forthcoming and usually greeted by silence and anger. There's a lot of truth in 'you only sing when you're winning'.

 

[Antonb]

You can understand his point, however just get your head down and move on. He’s coming from his side of the football team and himself. People paid quite a bit of money to get down there to watch so you’re going to get a number that are really unhappy. I was fed up and I watched it on the tele! It reminded me of Rotherham at home when we went up anyway. Hopefully the team will respond and get over the line.