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mcbladeface said:
I'd argue that in the current premier league era, the 'huge amounts' of prize money we've received would barely be enough to improve a couple of positions to PL standard let alone an entire first team. Throw in improving squad depth to offset the inevitable injuries, upgrading training grounds to competitive levels and improving academies? A typical championship club would need the money of 3 or 4 PL promotions to afford it.

It's not an excuse, we've been absolutely diabolically shite and our recruitment laughable but at the same time, let's not pretend the PL isn't broken.

And it's going to get worse. Whatever we're calling the new system, the spending cap based on turnover is going to be ridiculous.
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This. The objectives of the PL are a) quieten down the upstarts so that we can say we’re trying to even the playing field, b) manipulate the rules to get MC, Newcastle, Chelsea etc off the hook and finally c) keep the elite clubs unopposed so that their backers are happy. It’s all a stinking cesspit of protectionism, vested interests and bullshit. I’m in no hurry to get back there frankly.
 
steve26272 said:
as an owner to hit P&S of £105m over 3 years requires you to put in almost £3m of your own money every month

In what other walk of life, be it business or just your mortgage and bills against your wages does that happen, or is sustainable?

Not sure how they sort out his shit out, but can see a situation soon where every year one or 2 clubs a season go into administration, and not Bury or Halifax, but Everton, Forest, Leicester us etc
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We will be fine because, as has been pointed out, we don’t have the wage bill. People can moan all they like about the recruitment but, paying the purchase price is the easy bit, and its amortized. The simply ridiculous wages demanded by, and paid to, bog standard squad players now are (thankfully) the reason we haven’t signed any high profile players. Wages come out of the P&L - hence the FFP issues suffered by Forest and Everton etc.
 
I can see Ipswich doing quite well actually. The momentum they have from back to back promotions can't be underestimated, and Portman Road will be a tough place to visit for a lot of teams.
 
Stretch said:
I can see Ipswich doing quite well actually. The momentum they have from back to back promotions can't be underestimated, and Portman Road will be a tough place to visit for a lot of teams.
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They are already down, the gap is too big, they have momentum and a good manager but they have a lot of overperforming players in the Champ, no chance can players like Chaplin step up in the Prem.
Leicester will also drop down again due to an impending FFP penalty.
We are in a era where EFL promoted teams and relegated EPL teams constantly swap places.
 
Younger Dryas Blade said:
They are already down, the gap is too big, they have momentum and a good manager but they have a lot of overperforming players in the Champ, no chance can players like Chaplin step up in the Prem.
Leicester will also drop down again due to an impending FFP penalty.
We are in a era where EFL promoted teams and relegated EPL teams constantly swap places.
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I don't see why they couldn't do what we did a few years back. Our relative success that season was built around a team and management who understood the system perfectly and adapted it just enough to cope with PL opponents. McKenna will be smart enough to know which players will be good enough, having spent time in and around the PL as as coach before. It's also more common for one promoted team to stay up, than for all 3 to go straight back down.

Anyway this is all academic until we see who they sign, but I just have a feeling they will do ok.
 
mcbladeface said:
It's going to get more common but it'll need to happen a few times in a row before the PL acknowledge that maybe there's a problem let alone do anything to address it. Next year Leicester will stay up so that'll reset the clock.
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Points deduction and transfer embargo might be the deciding factor
 
Keen Blade said:
So , Metal blade , have you stopped going to the Lane ?

And Silent , you seem to agree with the "money spoiling the game" viewpoint but I think you attend home & away.
What's your philosophy ?
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I have missed one home game (attended a wedding in Ireland) and missed 5 away games this season.

I agreed with what Derek Dooley said in 1992 "I dont agree with having a Premier League, but if there one then I would like us to be part of it".

I am more disillusioned with football in general but still love my club. The gap between the first and second tier have become much bigger than I had imagined in 1992. I am praying for the Euro Super League to happen so that the Premier League will become a less unforgiving place to be in.
 
Silent Blade said:
I have missed one home game (attended a wedding in Ireland) and missed 5 away games this season.

I agreed with what Derek Dooley said in 1992 "I dont agree with having a Premier League, but if there one then I would like us to be part of it".

I am more disillusioned with football in general but still love my club. The gap between the first and second tier have become much bigger than I had imagined in 1992. I am praying for the Euro Super League to happen so that the Premier League will become a less unforgiving place to be in.
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Yes , also still love my club and desperately want everything that's best for it - I would also like to see a reduction in the damaging recruitment decisions which it really can't afford.
I'm glad you mentioned the Euro League idea coz I'd completely forgotten about it.
Let some of the elite 8-10 clubs saunter off + we should have a chance of being in the top domestic league.
Opponents will say that a great deal of TV money would be lost (which is true) but so what ?
In 2019 I thought "wow , we're in the PL and have access to real money for the first time in our history - won't it be great !"
But now I've come to understand that the TV money passes straight through the clubs to the players via wages and in fact the newly promoted club doesn't even have a competitive transfer budget.
So I agree with you.
If we know that under the present owner (which means for the foreseeable future) we are not going to be an elite club in any Euro League , then a breakaway would suit us.
 
How many goals did O.G get for us this season? Can we sign him?! That would narrow the gulf between us and Burnley I reckon. 😉🤣
 
Stretch said:
I can see Ipswich doing quite well actually. The momentum they have from back to back promotions can't be underestimated, and Portman Road will be a tough place to visit for a lot of teams.
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It has parallels with us in the 2019/20 season. We were widely written off and still did well.

I can see Ipswich starting off ok but then being ‘found out’. It depends how many points they amalgamate early doors as to whether they’ll stay up or not.
 
The European Super League won’t happen because the Premier League won’t allow it as it will destroy their empire, plus football will fall on it’s feet which will hinder revenue. Come on, don’t you think it would’ve happened already? 🤷‍♂️
 
While on the one hand in agreement with most of the posts on here about todays game
I think that if not for these faults, we'd still be watching football Sunday morning in the Parks.....:rolleyes:
 

We need to start a breakaway from the Prem League and form our own competitive league with some others
 
Better off hoping for a new owner with more money than how football operates changing or SUFC launching a breakaway league.
 
Going into Christmas, two of the promoted teams are in the relegation zone and the other is hovering just above it. With Wolves likely to get a new manager bounce I think there's a very real chance all 3 promoted teams could go straight back down again.

Yet I haven't heard a peep about it from the media. Are they scared to even think about it? Do they not want to admit that The Greatest League In The World might not be all that great if promoted teams keep going straight back down? This is going to happen more and more unless the PL money is distributed more evenly throughout the pyramid.

Can't wait for next season if we do go up!
 
Just seen some rumours about a takeover - anyone in the know?
 
Proper Blade said:
Going into Christmas, two of the promoted teams are in the relegation zone and the other is hovering just above it. With Wolves likely to get a new manager bounce I think there's a very real chance all 3 promoted teams could go straight back down again.

Yet I haven't heard a peep about it from the media. Are they scared to even think about it? Do they not want to admit that The Greatest League In The World might not be all that great if promoted teams keep going straight back down? This is going to happen more and more unless the PL money is distributed more evenly throughout the pyramid.

Can't wait for next season if we do go up!
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All I am hearing is how the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham and Forest are in the top 10 despite having spent a fortune just to get there.
 
The gulf is becoming huge.
However, last season was only the 2nd time it’s ever happened in the Premier League era.

Twice in 32 years isn’t exactly alarming.
Admittedly, if it happened 2 or 3 consecutive years, it would be.
 
mattbianco1 said:
The gulf is becoming huge.
However, last season was only the 2nd time it’s ever happened in the Premier League era.

Twice in 32 years isn’t exactly alarming.
Admittedly, if it happened 2 or 3 consecutive years, it would be.
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The point is that there's a good chance it could happen two years in a row. And out of the current top three in the Championship, I wouldn't back any of them to stay up as it stands
 
Proper Blade said:
The point is that there's a good chance it could happen two years in a row. And out of the current top three in the Championship, I wouldn't back any of them to stay up as it stands
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There's also a good chance it won't though 🤷🏻

Leicester are performing better than any of us 3 did last season.

Ipswich are 2nd bottom and within 4pts of teams up to 15th.

At this stage last season, Burnley were 2nd bottom and 7pts off 15th.
 
It’s the top 5 or 6 clubs that sell the Premier League around the world, the rest of the also rans that change over the years don’t really matter.

If they wanted a truly competitive league, it would take drastic changes, which I can’t see happening any time soon.
 

YES Blade said:
It’s the top 5 or 6 clubs that sell the Premier League around the world, the rest of the also rans that change over the years don’t really matter.

If they wanted a truly competitive league, it would take drastic changes, which I can’t see happening any time soon.
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Two things that might make the premier league more competitive outside of the top clubs.

1) A reasonable wage/salary cap: Bring the wage limit down so big teams stop signing superstars on 200k a week etc, which allows them to outbid lesser premier league teams for players.

2) Get some proper financial regulations that stop lesser premier league clubs having to sell their best players to make ends meet: I'm not a fan of the current FFP/PSR rules and these new rules (whenever they get implemented) about spending a percentage of your revenue don't sound good either.

Will they do the above to make the premier league better, absolutely not.

EPL don't care about anything other than the money generated by the big six, who themselves can't allow teams like Villa or Newcastle (just to name 2) to get anywhere near the premier league title.
 
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