Where do Supporters come in all this Chaos?

[Houston_Blade]

I am sure the S6 followers could see the logic in that! lol

Producing quality product for ROI is a value reflected in both divisions. While we remain a yo yo club, these income streams will be important to our survival as a football club and a business
Maybe my optimism is aiming too high, and too far into the future?
Like you said, it’s a ‘nice to have’.

I can’t believe how well we’ve done out of the academy in the last 25 years, I’ve done casual scouting in the past for both Blades and Pigs at younger age groups and both clubs identify and attract good footballers locally. But we seem to churn out more quality youngsters than they do by a distance.

I know a few of the ones in recent history have come to us late from other clubs (Osula, Jebbo, Ndiaye, Brooks, One, Jags, Tonge, Lankshear, Peck, Beattie (Jevan) etc.). It’s this secondary market where we’ve seen a lot of return on investment recently. We have some good local lads in the team at the moment who could be worth big money in years to come.

There’s no huge secret in how we recruit locally, we give scouts a profile and they send lads along for assessment, 2 lads I’ve recommended are u15 at the moment and still apparently doing well, some others u13 and u14 have potential but loads can go wrong before they get to an age to realise that potential.

I recommended a kid to us and the pigs and he signed for pigs because we faffed him around, he’s 13 now, in my opinion he’ll be a first teamer before he’s 18 but his dad was concerned that he’s at the wrong club to move into the first team and thinks he’ll end up jumping ship and being part of a tribunal at some point in the next few years.

 

[Charlieblade]

I can’t believe how well we’ve done out of the academy in the last 25 years, I’ve done casual scouting in the past for both Blades and Pigs at younger age groups and both clubs identify and attract good footballers locally. But we seem to churn out more quality youngsters than they do by a distance.

I know a few of the ones in recent history have come to us late from other clubs (Osula, Jebbo, Ndiaye, Brooks, One, Jags, Tonge, Lankshear, Peck, Beattie (Jevan) etc.). It’s this secondary market where we’ve seen a lot of return on investment recently. We have some good local lads in the team at the moment who could be worth big money in years to come.

There’s no huge secret in how we recruit locally, we give scouts a profile and they send lads along for assessment, 2 lads I’ve recommended are u15 at the moment and still apparently doing well, some others u13 and u14 have potential but loads can go wrong before they get to an age to realise that potential.

I recommended a kid to us and the pigs and he signed for pigs because we faffed him around, he’s 13 now, in my opinion he’ll be a first teamer before he’s 18 but his dad was concerned that he’s at the wrong club to move into the first team and thinks he’ll end up jumping ship and being part of a tribunal at some point in the next few years.

Maybe our success is in the coaching side, and scouting too of course?

 

[SwissBlade]

The final comment by the seller? Is that a new public statement?
Not one I’ve heard before.

I posted on the basis that there was only one public statement by each party to the sale.

As i said, I was paraphrasing

How many statements do you need?

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Or less info?
Some people are really wound up by not knowing the ins and outs, which would actually probably wind them up further.
If they had no info whatsoever, then one day some blokes turned up on the pitch in suits and a scarf fresh from the club shop, with Gaz announcing them as new owners, those people would be much happier.
As it stands it's a choice, whether to hang on every rumour and be wound up or not.

 

[The Crab]

Ban Bovril it stinks!

Bovril is lovleh

 

[The Crab]

I’m not wound up, I’d just like some degree of certainty regarding any potential incomings in January

 

[wak1889]

Some interesting points. The only one I find myself at odds with, is club support for the women’s game. The club assumes very little costs compared to the benefits of supporting grass roots football development, and good business practices as an option for further future income from entertainment values. We obviously have different opinions on it.

It's not just uniteds women's team it's the whole movement around women's football where everyone is championing it as this huge developing sport in the UK that is only going to get bigger, when in reality it just piggy backs off the mens game , if the women's game had to stand on it's own 2 feet and had no affiliation to a professional men's club in the same way mens amateur football has , and they had to generate their own income entirely from their own infrastructure and identity as a completely separate entity and build their own ground etc and they were still getting 40-50,000 to watch arsenal ladies then I would tend to agree that it's a rapidly developing sport , as it stands now it is propped up massively by the men's game and the media love in with it , amateur mens grassroots football get a fraction of the media attention the women's game gets

 

[originaltrueblade]

A NEW GROUND!?
Nope!

Maybe a new stadium on the EXISTING grounds and flip it 90 degrees.

Nope

 

[Bell4]

I'm quite a simple chap...... I'll go with the proposal to Bring Back Fingering

This tbh

Fingering in a lost art - I was taught my methods by Janice Withernshaw behind the curtain before and at the end of our Drama lessons . Stayed with me for life .

 

[Jacobsenthecrab]

As a Championship club a cat 1 academy makes little financial sense. The cost of running one is much higher than a cat 2 and although we’ve done well out of ours in terms of transfer fees it’s far from a guarantee.

If our revenue dropped to ‘normal’ championship level of around £25m then a large chunk of that goes on the academy and it gets to the point where anyone half decent has to be sold to fund it. As a PL club it’s easily swallowed but below that it’s a burden.

The main reason is that no one can take our players on the cheap and we can recruit non Cat 1 players for very little, financially it’s a no-brainier.

 

[Charlieblade]

The main reason is that no one can take our players on the cheap and we can recruit non Cat 1 players for very little, financially it’s a no-brainier.

Opinions will always vary, but I believe the expense is worth it, in the long term. If we can retain EPL status, so much the better.

 

[Charlieblade]

It's not just uniteds women's team it's the whole movement around women's football where everyone is championing it as this huge developing sport in the UK that is only going to get bigger, when in reality it just piggy backs off the mens game , if the women's game had to stand on it's own 2 feet and had no affiliation to a professional men's club in the same way mens amateur football has , and they had to generate their own income entirely from their own infrastructure and identity as a completely separate entity and build their own ground etc and they were still getting 40-50,000 to watch arsenal ladies then I would tend to agree that it's a rapidly developing sport , as it stands now it is propped up massively by the men's game and the media love in with it , amateur mens grassroots football get a fraction of the media attention the women's game gets

Media tend to be irresponsible whatever you or I might think. I have a different opinion, but no one is right all the time.
Thank you for an interesting and valid contribution.

 

[Charlieblade]

As i said, I was paraphrasing

How many statements do you need?

Two public statements by the parties concerned is quite sufficient. As I said elsewhere, anything else simply encourages more speculation, especially from a click bait happy media.

 

[ZLB]

What is the chaos?

Lots of people chatting shit. Just fucking enjoy a good season.

 

[Houston_Blade]

The main reason is that no one can take our players on the cheap and we can recruit non Cat 1 players for very little, financially it’s a no-brainier.

Based on the additional compensation you receive at cat 1 v cat 2? I was under the impression it’s only a few extra £k per year of training. Could be wrong though.