Kieffer Moore…

[HOT CURRIE 10]

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03:35.
He's closed his man down brilliantly, a good touch has taken him into the area.
Inside of him, his only option - O'Hare - has made a run in between both defenders.
Moore selects the right option in firing it across goal in the hope it takes a goalbound touch from any of the three players.
Had O'Hare peeled off to the far post, or attacked the near post he probably has a chance of finishing.

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03:40
A great run in behind and Moore's broken free again.
The pass is OK but a lot still to do from Moore. His first touch is decent, but not perfect as it takes him away from goal a bit.
He's now straining to put a first time ball into the right area, which he manages.
O'Hare, once again, has found himself in between markers and not presenting as an easy option.
The delivery is cut out.

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03:58
Hamer runs towards goal.
Reading the situation, Moore makes an intelligent run across the box dragging multiple defenders with him.
This opens up space for Hamer, who almost finds the bottom corner.

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04:34.
An intelligent run from Moore and Hamer's picked him out.
Moore, back to goal, has no obvious passing option but spots O'Hare making a lung-busting run toward the box.
He tries to execute a tricky back heel into his path but doesn't get enough purchase on it. A creative, positive decision but slightly lacking in execution.
Either way, it would have been outrageous if it had come off and far from easy.

That's just the first half.

I've seen a lot of people referring to Moore as having "an easy option to slide someone in" or "making the wrong decision."
You're going to have to point it out to me, as I'm seeing some really good CF play working off very little.

I appreciate these debates will continue unless (or until) he starts scoring... but I'd challenge that the 3 lads behind him are usually cutting inside and trying to work an angle for themselves.
None of them are getting to the byline and feeding Moore in the six yard box.

Absolutely bang on. He does a lot of work for a centre forward,his awareness is very good but doesn’t always come off and his positioning is top drawer. His finishing has been average in good positions but not long ago Mcgoldrick was missing sitters week in,week out. We love a scapegoat.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Absolutely bang on. He does a lot of work for a centre forward,his awareness is very good but doesn’t always come off and his positioning is top drawer. His finishing has been average in good positions but not long ago Mcgoldrick was missing sitters week in,week out. We love a scapegoat.

McGoldricks general play was excellent hence he was given a lot of time to find his goals. Moores is nowhere near that level and that doesn't make him a scapegoat.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Someone’s doing well, betting in a cost of living crisis

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

McGoldricks general play was excellent hence he was given a lot of time to find his goals. Moores is nowhere near that level and that doesn't make him a scapegoat.

So is Moores,I’ve seen the lot up to now this season and I’m quite satisfied. There have been too many negatives about him,there are other players not quite pulling their full weight but they are abstained from criticism. He’s doing alright.

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Someone’s doing well, betting in a cost of living crisis

 

[Aston max]

I like Moore,he brings a lot to the side in terms of hold up play plus I'd love to know how many clearance headers he's completed from opposition corners/free kicks?
But IMO changing him out for Brewster/Campbell around 70 minutes moves the attacking focus for opposition defenders ( no doubt someone will call me a dickhead for this statement !! )
I'd like to see what brooks,rak and Campbell/Brewster would bring as a front 3 and this isn't a negative for O'Hare and hamer who I think have been doing really well
We've got to understand this is a new squad who've got to gel up to now we've got positive results ATM it all looks good for the season hopefully top 6
Centre half, central midfielder and a centre forward in January

 

[KiwiBlabe]

My view from yesterday's game.

You're talking nonsense to fit your agenda.
O'Hare was surrounded by Derby players.
Moore picking him out isn't anything like as easy as you're suggesting.

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I'm in that Pic and I agree with you CM he did what he could with the options available. Moore is by no means perfect, however he does much much more good than bad. He is also wholehearted, working his socks off for the team

 

[Mumbo]

Moore is strong,always shows for the ball,gets a foot in, is no slouch and works very hard.
He’s also hesitant,makes poor choices and is shot shy.
He’s not a dependable 20 a season man but he’s not crap either.
An upgrade is of course possible but buying top quality strikers takes deep pockets.
Early days,hope he comes good.

 

[loyalblade95]

This whole Moore debate is also a bit like the Mcgoldrick situation.

It's been said on here and other platforms that if Didzy could have scored regularly, he would have played most of his career in the top flight thanks to his footballing ability to go along with that goalscoring.

Moore is in the same boat, if he scored more regularly to go along with his ability to lead the line and hold up play, he would definitely be playing top flight football every season.

 

[Slim Man]

You do know he scored 7 for Ipswich last season in just 18 games?

The odds would be tipped heavily in my favour.

No, I didn’t know that well publicised fact

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

No, I didn’t know that well publicised fact

You need to pay more attention then.

 

[Lama]

You need to pay more attention then.

He’s not going to take your bet Nuddy

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

He’s not going to take your bet Nuddy

He said anyone who thinks Moore can score 10 goals this season is lying.

I think if he reckons Moore can't score another 9 goals in the remaining 40 matches then he's lying.

 

[Sean Thornton]

WTF we are unbeaten, playing well, but lets look for a scapegoat

Brewster alone isn’t good enough for some, they need more than one scapegoat these days.

 

[Slim Man]

He said anyone who thinks Moore can score 10 goals this season is lying.

I think if he reckons Moore can't score another 9 goals in the remaining 40 matches then he's lying.

‘The way he’s playing’ means he can improve then maybe I’ll be confident in that

I’m not sure if you have difficulty understanding context or not?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

‘The way he’s playing’ means he can improve then maybe I’ll be confident in that

I’m not sure if you have difficulty understanding context or not?

So you do think he'll score 10 then.

Glad we agree.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Someone’s doing well, betting in a cost of living crisis

New take on an “actually, my Grandads dead” swerve

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Looking at his stats, he’s only really lacking in chances created. Which does tie in with people’s criticisms of him. It could also be explained by him being isolated up front, as other people have pointed out, O’hare doesn’t get close to him enough.

 

[bakeblade]

I like Moore,he brings a lot to the side in terms of hold up play plus I'd love to know how many clearance headers he's completed from opposition corners/free kicks?
But IMO changing him out for Brewster/Campbell around 70 minutes moves the attacking focus for opposition defenders ( no doubt someone will call me a dickhead for this statement !! )
I'd like to see what brooks,rak and Campbell/Brewster would bring as a front 3 and this isn't a negative for O'Hare and hamer who I think have been doing really well
We've got to understand this is a new squad who've got to gel up to now we've got positive results ATM it all looks good for the season hopefully top 6
Centre half, central midfielder and a centre forward in January

The problem is Moore is so important to us when defending set pieces, CW will be reluctant to take him off in tight games.
If we ever get into a comfortable lead then I'm sure he'd come off much earlier.

 

[Snowflake]

I think not having a striker with better footwork and mobility has already cost us at least 2 goals this season

It was a bizarre mistake not to recruit another CF

Maybe there was no one better and available than what we have. The cost of someone better than those would be really expensive.

 

[jt64]

Maybe there was no one better and available than what we have. The cost of someone better than those would be really expensive.

Or, arguably, really cheap had we not sold such a player to the first bidder

 

[Slim Man]

So you do think he'll score 10 then.

Glad we agree.

If he plays like he currently is, no not really

 

[Slim Man]

I think not having a striker with better footwork and mobility has already cost us at least 2 goals this season

It was a bizarre mistake not to recruit another CF

Agreed. I’d love to see Campbell given a run when fit. I know people will tell me he’s ’better off the right’ but we should look at creating a fluid front line.

 

[Lowen]

I wouldn’t mind seeing Rak-Sakyi given a game upfront as a way to incorporate Brooks back into the 11. Maybe dropping Moore would make it even clearer the stuff he’s bringing to the team but I feel there’s so many instances where his lack of pace or technical ability has broken down an attack. O’Hare, Hamer and even Peck are always wanting to play that through ball in behind and if Rak-Sakyi was the one going through I think he’d be converting those attacks into goals.

 

[sitwell]

He’s not going to take your bet Nuddy

Hes all mouth and emojis.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Or, arguably, really cheap had we not sold such a player to the first bidder

Who is this “such a player” of whom you speak ?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

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03:35.
He's closed his man down brilliantly, a good touch has taken him into the area.
Inside of him, his only option - O'Hare - has made a run in between both defenders.
Moore selects the right option in firing it across goal in the hope it takes a goalbound touch from any of the three players.
Had O'Hare peeled off to the far post, or attacked the near post he probably has a chance of finishing.

View attachment 193269

03:40
A great run in behind and Moore's broken free again.
The pass is OK but a lot still to do from Moore. His first touch is decent, but not perfect as it takes him away from goal a bit.
He's now straining to put a first time ball into the right area, which he manages.
O'Hare, once again, has found himself in between markers and not presenting as an easy option.
The delivery is cut out.

View attachment 193270

03:58
Hamer runs towards goal.
Reading the situation, Moore makes an intelligent run across the box dragging multiple defenders with him.
This opens up space for Hamer, who almost finds the bottom corner.

View attachment 193271

04:34.
An intelligent run from Moore and Hamer's picked him out.
Moore, back to goal, has no obvious passing option but spots O'Hare making a lung-busting run toward the box.
He tries to execute a tricky back heel into his path but doesn't get enough purchase on it. A creative, positive decision but slightly lacking in execution.
Either way, it would have been outrageous if it had come off and far from easy.

That's just the first half.

I've seen a lot of people referring to Moore as having "an easy option to slide someone in" or "making the wrong decision."
You're going to have to point it out to me, as I'm seeing some really good CF play working off very little.

I appreciate these debates will continue unless (or until) he starts scoring... but I'd challenge that the 3 lads behind him are usually cutting inside and trying to work an angle for themselves.
None of them are getting to the byline and feeding Moore in the six yard box.

I notice you don't mention the header he missed.
The chance where he should have pulled it back to the player totally unmarked in the area.
Our the chance he should have put it across 1st time instead of taking a touch and putting it behind our player running in.
Also the chance in the 2nd half where he dithered then played it to his left when the better option was to play it to his right.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I wouldn’t mind seeing Rak-Sakyi given a game upfront as a way to incorporate Brooks back into the 11. Maybe dropping Moore would make it even clearer the stuff he’s bringing to the team but I feel there’s so many instances where his lack of pace or technical ability has broken down an attack. O’Hare, Hamer and even Peck are always wanting to play that through ball in behind and if Rak-Sakyi was the one going through I think he’d be converting those attacks into goals.

This is an option, a more likely one would just be dropping O'Hare to get more pace in the team

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

I just don’t think he’s that good. How long before ‘he’s learning his role’ turns into ‘he’s just a bad decision maker’?

He won’t get the goals we need to have us finishing in the top 6, so the defence better be pretty fucking good.

Aye
That’ll be the defence (that Moore contributes to) thats conceded 3 in 6 league fixtures (2 without selecting the first choice keeper & C/H) & not conceded in last 3 games
I’ll happily go with “pretty fucking good”

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I notice you don't mention the header he missed.
The chance where he should have pulled it back to the player totally unmarked in the area.
Our the chance he should have put it across 1st time instead of taking a touch and putting it behind our player running in.
Also the chance in the 2nd half where he dithered then played it to his left when the better option was to play it to his right.

The header was a very difficult chance.
I'm sure there'll be some statistican knocking about that can tell us the XG on it but I bet it was less than 5% probability of scoring.

The rest of the things you mention, I think I addressed. The cutbacks weren't simple at all and he did what he could with them.

Watch the extended highlights and point out what I'm missing?