Sack Wilder

[Digs blade]

3 unbeaten well done Blades.

Sorry let me find something to moan about FFS

 

[Mag-83]

Decent point away point at Norwich. Still unbeaten. Good performance. If it was not for the shitty, negligent manner in which the club is run we would be on 5 points.

 

[MobileBlade]

Decent point away point at Norwich. Still unbeaten. Good performance. If it was not for the shitty, negligent manner in which the club is run we would be on 7 points.

Win your home games, draw your away games and you go up automatically. Of course some will counter balance the others and of course you won't win 23 home games and draw 23 away but average that and you get 92 points. Less our 2 points we are on for 90 points which will get us automatic.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

It speaks volumes about what the management team think of Brewster that he was overlooked for 3 possible substitutions today (Slimane, JSR and Campbell) and we persisted with the one dimensional tactic of Moore on his own instead of bringing him off for Brewster.

Absolutely. Confuses me that we've set up this season to play nippy energetic football, yet have a big lump at CF... You'd think this system is set up for a Brewster-type player. The fact Wilder isn't even bringing him on when Moore looks exhausted tells you all you need to know.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Osula in this team gets us 20+ goals....

 

[ancientblade]

Utter rubbish, Trusty is a liability. Watch how Sargent leaves him for dead for their goal.

apart from their goal trusty was fine but sergeant is sharp and pacy wish we had him at the lane

 

[AWetFlannel]

Re Trusty it’s more of a moan as to not having anybody better, he’s barely League One standard, we should have better, that’s it.

So far it’s been a very misshapen group on the pitch at times, square pegs round holes etc. Frustrating when the talent is obviously there on the pitch but struggled to maintain any fluency and structure after OK first halves. Not sure what is so controversial.

In a thread called "sack Wilder" you mentioned "the way he's utilising players", one of which being "starting Trusty FFS".

Now you're moving the goalposts, trying to make out you were just moaning about not having better, which isn't true.

He's never played in league one and was Birmingham's player of the season in the Championship. By what measure can you possibly decide he's barely league one standard?

What's controversial is the astounding rate that fans come out with utter nonsense when we don't win a game. Just think before you post!

 

[1987]

Re Trusty it’s more of a moan as to not having anybody better, he’s barely League One standard, we should have better, that’s it.

So far it’s been a very misshapen group on the pitch at times, square pegs round holes etc. Frustrating when the talent is obviously there on the pitch but struggled to maintain any fluency and structure after OK first halves. Not sure what is so controversial.

OK, you've not got a clue then I take it. Just brainless waffle.

 

[true99blade]

In a thread called "sack Wilder" you mentioned "the way he's utilising players", one of which being "starting Trusty FFS".

Now you're moving the goalposts, trying to make out you were just moaning about not having better, which isn't true.

He's never played in league one and was Birmingham's player of the season in the Championship. By what measure can you possibly decide he's barely league one standard?

What's controversial is the astounding rate that fans come out with utter nonsense when we don't win a game. Just think before you post!

We aren’t the lower mid-table Birmingham of 2 seasons ago. He’s been absolutely wretched for us. If you think he’s good that’s fine, I strongly disagree.

 

[Yewsman]

Last season the defence was dreadful shipping over 100 goals. All the best teams are built on a strong defence. We have been crying out to get the defence fixed but we are still playing Anel, JLT and Trusty who were basically last seasons defence. Our weakest point was high balls into box from which we conceded I don't know how many goals but this was only part of the problem. I know wd have gone to 4 at back but only new recruit in central defence is Souttar who looks promising but defence still looks far from watertight. Must get this sorted as big priority. Not sure CW has grasped this. Bit like his first promotion to PL when he ignored fact we needed to sort midfield.

 

[true99blade]

You've not got a clue then? It's just brainless waffle.

Right, is logging into a forum to get wound up and respond to “brainless waffle” a favourite pastime?

 

[1987]

Right, is logging into a forum to get wound up and respond to “brainless waffle” a favourite pastime?

God no.

 

[alcoblade]

Last season the defence was dreadful shipping over 100 goals. All the best teams are built on a strong defence. We have been crying out to get the defence fixed but we are still playing Anel, JLT and Trusty who were basically last seasons defence. Our weakest point was high balls into box from which we conceded I don't know how many goals but this was only part of the problem. I know wd have gone to 4 at back but only new recruit in central defence is Souttar who looks promising but defence still looks far from watertight. Must get this sorted as big priority. Not sure CW has grasped this. Bit like his first promotion to PL when he ignored fact we needed to sort midfield.

He's brought in two left backs, a centre half and a right back. It's pretty obvious he's grasped it.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Last season the defence was dreadful shipping over 100 goals. All the best teams are built on a strong defence. We have been crying out to get the defence fixed but we are still playing Anel, JLT and Trusty who were basically last seasons defence. Our weakest point was high balls into box from which we conceded I don't know how many goals but this was only part of the problem. I know wd have gone to 4 at back but only new recruit in central defence is Souttar who looks promising but defence still looks far from watertight. Must get this sorted as big priority. Not sure CW has grasped this. Bit like his first promotion to PL when he ignored fact we needed to sort midfield (when we finished 9th)

Just a small addition

 

[Bladezz]

Wilder got it right today.

O’Hare was dreadful. We played with 10 men away at Norwich and got a point.

 

[Shadota]

The biggest problem with CW, is his inability to adapt.

Last week and today, it's become obvious quite early, that subs were needed. Last week it was within 5 minutes of the 2nd half, today it was at half time (in my opinion). And yet we've sat and done nothing to change the course of the match in our favour until there was around 20 minutes left.

O'Hare should not have started the 2nd half today for me. He struggled to keep possession, was continually moving into areas where he had no chance of getting the ball, and a few times, he tried some over-elaborate 1-2 with Hamer, when there was a far more sensible pass available. Could have brought JRS on, put Hamer central, Brooks on the left and JRS on the right. Instead we left him on to flounder and struggle for another 20 mins or so.

I think some of the issues we're seeing on the pitch, will disappear with time, and as players get more accustomed to each other. However, if Wilder doesn't improve himself, and his ability to use his bench to change a game for the better, I could see him hitting the road sooner rather than later.

 

[Bladesman]

The biggest problem with CW, is his inability to adapt.

Last week and today, it's become obvious quite early, that subs were needed. Last week it was within 5 minutes of the 2nd half, today it was at half time (in my opinion). And yet we've sat and done nothing to change the course of the match in our favour until there was around 20 minutes left.

O'Hare should not have started the 2nd half today for me. He struggled to keep possession, was continually moving into areas where he had no chance of getting the ball, and a few times, he tried some over-elaborate 1-2 with Hamer, when there was a far more sensible pass available. Could have brought JRS on, put Hamer central, Brooks on the left and JRS on the right. Instead we left him on to flounder and struggle for another 20 mins or so.

I think some of the issues we're seeing on the pitch, will disappear with time, and as players get more accustomed to each other. However, if Wilder doesn't improve himself, and his ability to use his bench to change a game for the better, I could see him hitting the road sooner rather than later.

I'd understand more if he didn't have options on the bench, last season he had hardly any to call on. This season he has now got options to change things up and isn't doing it or doing it yet.

 

[10-0 win]

Subs are usually not first choice for a reason

 

[10-0 win]

Subs may easily make us weaker. Trust those who actually see players training every week.

 

[peakblade]

Every time we draw or god forbid lose its always been the same on here , either wrong team selected ,wrong subs
used or badly timed subs . when we have been winning in the past and made a sub or two and ended up drawing
you can guarantee some clown will pop up with the why change it remark -- hindsight eh.... utb

 

[William Large]

Absolutely. Confuses me that we've set up this season to play nippy energetic football, yet have a big lump at CF... You'd think this system is set up for a Brewster-type player. The fact Wilder isn't even bringing him on when Moore looks exhausted tells you all you need to know.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Osula in this team gets us 20+ goals....

I mean there is optimism and then there is optimism. I have never seen anything in Osula to suggest that he would get 20+ goals in this team.
Unless you mean in this team in League 2, or in this team over 5 years.
All about opinions mind.

 

[Bladesman]

Subs may easily make us weaker. Trust those who actually see players training every week.

Yes must much better to do nothing and just watch the team throw away a win against 10 men QPR.

 

[Bladezz]

Yes must much better to do nothing and just watch the team throw away a win against 10 men QPR.

We conceded a set play and a bit boot up the pitch

Unfortunately for the Wilder haters not much he can do about this.

 

[gordoncharles]

We conceded a set play and a bit boot up the pitch

Unfortunately for the Wilder haters not much he can do about this.

It's not about the goals that are conceded. Anyone can make an unforced error or an opponent can wallop in a pot-shot from 30 yards.

Against QPR, in particular, even more so than today, practically everyone had seen it coming because we had surrendered the initiative and our opponent was very much on top, making goals for them a lot more likely. Today we were just about on top for the majority till we ran out of steam, a bit of a worry in itself.

I still think the balance of the team is wrong with this Southgate-like insistence on fitting players into a system that doesn't suit them. Brooks doesn't look like an inverted winger - maybe he will become one over time, who knows, but for now he would be much more effective on the left, a position where Hamer is wasted. And though Robinson obviously wasn't there today I imagine there's a few like me who see a warning light flashing on the dashboard when he's a centre half in a back four.

I didn't want Wilder back, and what happened last season backed that up, but I certainly give him whatever credit he has earned for moving on all the mentally scarred two-time losers from our PL debacles, and managing to assemble a competitive and talented (though not complete) squad from the ruins.

He still has some way to go to prove that he's capable of getting those players to perform as a team, though it's been reasonably encouraging.

Does this make me a hater?

 

[1987]

I think it's high time people stopped prefacing comments with "I never wanted him back' or some other variant. It's been long enough

 

[Bert]

When the time eventually comes we need to look at the bloke at Lincoln.

 

[JJBlade]

Win your home games, draw your away games and you go up automatically. Of course some will counter balance the others and of course you won't win 23 home games and draw 23 away but average that and you get 92 points. Less our 2 points we are on for 90 points which will get us automatic.

Less the two we chucked away against QPR = 88

 

[MobileBlade]

Less the two we chucked away against QPR = 88

23 x 3 = 69
23 x 1 = 23
69 + 23 = 92
92 - 2 = 90

We played 1 home and 2 away so we should be on 5 less 2 = 3.

We have 3 so 90

 

[JJBlade]

23 x 3 = 69
23 x 1 = 23
69 + 23 = 92
92 - 2 = 90

We played 1 home and 2 away so we should be on 5 less 2 = 3.

We have 3 so 90

But we can't get 23 home wins after losing two points against QPR

 

[Fatlad666]

The biggest problem with CW, is his inability to adapt.

Last week and today, it's become obvious quite early, that subs were needed. Last week it was within 5 minutes of the 2nd half, today it was at half time (in my opinion). And yet we've sat and done nothing to change the course of the match in our favour until there was around 20 minutes left.

O'Hare should not have started the 2nd half today for me. He struggled to keep possession, was continually moving into areas where he had no chance of getting the ball, and a few times, he tried some over-elaborate 1-2 with Hamer, when there was a far more sensible pass available. Could have brought JRS on, put Hamer central, Brooks on the left and JRS on the right. Instead we left him on to flounder and struggle for another 20 mins or so.

I think some of the issues we're seeing on the pitch, will disappear with time, and as players get more accustomed to each other. However, if Wilder doesn't improve himself, and his ability to use his bench to change a game for the better, I could see him hitting the road sooner rather than later.

What a load of bollocks , don't worry I've sent you tenner pants for men 40 pack, should be with you tomorrow via amazon. Can't believe you are moaning by getting a point at Norwich away.

 

[MobileBlade]

But we can't get 23 home wins after losing two points against QPR

Think about it. Swap Preston and QPR around.