That's on Wilder

[Vass Borbokis]

Wilder needs to take blame for a change, instead of blaming others.
Saying players went 'off plan' but doing absolutely nothing about it until we went from 2-0 to 2-2.
Poor choices, he makes the decisions, so he should take the blame. It's too early for him to be blaming the players. Hope that back door isn't boarded up yet.

 

[Torrix1889]

No, the bedwetter threads concern the owner and the takeover, this one concerns today's game and how in the eyes of many, the manager got it wrong. We all know about his previous stint, more highs and lows than we care to mention, and I doubt there's many of us not hoping we can experience those highs again.

in my opinion, with a wealth of talent on the pitch and on the bench he got it wrong, I'm neither pissing nor shitting the bed over that, just expressing an opinion. It's kind of the backbone of message boards

As to the term 'bedwetter' it was mildly amusing at first but due to it's misuse and over use, it's boring as fuck now. We need to come up with something better, any ideas?

I said he got it wrong so we agree then. Again, it is almost a brand new suad, we have to give them time to get into gear, some don't have the patience obviously.

It's the second game of the season, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet.

Agree, bedwetters is probably not appropriate, let's say fannies instead.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

I said he got it wrong so we agree then. Again, it is almost a brand new suad, we have to give them time to get into gear, some don't have the patience obviously.

It's the second game of the season, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet.

Agree, bedwetters is probably not appropriate, let's say fannies instead.

Fannies . Olden but golden.

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

Wilder needs to take blame for a change, instead of blaming others.
Saying players went 'off plan' but doing absolutely nothing about it until we went from 2-0 to 2-2.
Poor choices, he makes the decisions, so he should take the blame. It's too early for him to be blaming the players. Hope that back door isn't boarded up yet.

I agree, he watched us go 'off script' and did nothing to change it. Comes out afterwards and blames the players, pathetic.

Wilder used to be brave until he scuttled out of the backdoor, this version ain't anywhere close to the Wilder that would throw on forwards when we were a goal up, hanging on.

He's not the same guy.

 

[Mendi]

Should have never got the job.

 

[prescotblade]

We have a very mixed team especially with some of the loans we have, they are here to develop and an aspect of this is recognising where they are going wrong.
Not sure criticism should be made public, but for some it motivates. Anyway what would be the purpose of the interviews if nothing was said. You would have fans complaining that he’s not recognising the faults of players.
Who would be a manager with the amount of scrutiny they come under. Guess the money is worth it.

 

[moody1889]

Today's fuck up was more on the players than Wilder.

Too many of them resting on their laurels after the first half.

Was flicking the ball around like we were Brazil at one point in the first half it was like men against boys.

If they had kept going at them it could have been 4 or 5 before half time.

But for some reason we just didn't turn up second half.

 

[Bl4desutd]

No, the bedwetter threads concern the owner and the takeover, this one concerns today's game and how in the eyes of many, the manager got it wrong. We all know about his previous stint, more highs and lows than we care to mention, and I doubt there's many of us not hoping we can experience those highs again.

in my opinion, with a wealth of talent on the pitch and on the bench he got it wrong, I'm neither pissing nor shitting the bed over that, just expressing an opinion. It's kind of the backbone of message boards

As to the term 'bedwetter' it was mildly amusing at first but due to it's misuse and over use, it's boring as fuck now. We need to come up with something better, any ideas?

So……have you wet the bed or not?

 

[Maurice Maurice]

So……have you wet the bed or not?

You didn't read the post, did you

 

[Bladesman]

Wilder needs to take blame for a change, instead of blaming others.
Saying players went 'off plan' but doing absolutely nothing about it until we went from 2-0 to 2-2.
Poor choices, he makes the decisions, so he should take the blame. It's too early for him to be blaming the players. Hope that back door isn't boarded up yet.

Rare for him to hold his hands up when he gets something wrong. He is prepared to throw the squad under the bus instead though.

 

[nopigfansintown]

There's a growing number of entitled, moaning fannies that support us these days. Veruca Salts. The ground is like a morgue unless we score and, what's worse, at the first sign of adversity people turn. "I demand a win; if I don't get it I'll throw a strop and cry and cry and cry". A lot of this board has turned already because a team that's barely been together a week isn't the finished product - despite two wins and a draw so far this season. What happened to the old Blades fan ethos: you know, actually getting behind the team and management amd making it hostile for opponents? The Wilder, Warnock, Bassett haters are plain weird btw.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Wilder needs to take blame for a change, instead of blaming others.
Saying players went 'off plan' but doing absolutely nothing about it until we went from 2-0 to 2-2.
Poor choices, he makes the decisions, so he should take the blame. It's too early for him to be blaming the players. Hope that back door isn't boarded up yet.

That's the part that annoyed me. He said the players went off plan and lost control of the game in the second half, but he did nothing to change that. It was obvious they were going to score and after they did, he did nothing. He brought on a defender first, when the problem was the midfield constantly losing possession. Then they got a man sent off and he waits to bring on more. That was the signal to change up, throw attacking bodies on and push for the third.

That was Hecky management. Wait for the inevitable and then make changes, instead of stopping it by making changes. The fact he acknowledged what happened but wouldn't take responsibility annoyed me. That's pure arrogance.

That was crap in game management. Pure and simple. Plan A, when plan A doesn't work, stick to plan A because plan A was working earlier.

It's only game 2 and it's going to be a long season, but that was a chance to make up for all the horror shows at Bramall Lane last season, and give the fans a reason to walk out happy. That was unacceptable from Wilder.

 

[crazyblade1889]

There's a growing number of entitled, moaning fannies that support us these days. Veruca Salts. The ground is like a morgue unless we score and, what's worse, at the first sign of adversity people turn. "I demand a win; if I don't get it I'll throw a strop and cry and cry and cry". A lot of this board has turned already because a team that's barely been together a week isn't the finished product - despite two wins and a draw so far this season. What happened to the old Blades fan ethos: you know, actually getting behind the team and management amd making it hostile for opponents? The Wilder, Warnock, Bassett haters are plain weird btw.

Funny that when we beat a very poor Preston side and a league 1 team in the cup fans were talking of new contracts for wilder and stating what a good job he’d done this summer which was all very premature, but fans who were disappointed after today and can see Wilders shortcomings are called entitled and bedwetters. Maybe too early to make a call on how this season will play out but can’t have it both ways that we can judge on one good performance but can’t criticise on one bad one!

 

[The Crab]

There's a growing number of entitled, moaning fannies that support us these days. Veruca Salts. The ground is like a morgue unless we score and, what's worse, at the first sign of adversity people turn. "I demand a win; if I don't get it I'll throw a strop and cry and cry and cry". A lot of this board has turned already because a team that's barely been together a week isn't the finished product - despite two wins and a draw so far this season. What happened to the old Blades fan ethos: you know, actually getting behind the team and management amd making it hostile for opponents? The Wilder, Warnock, Bassett haters are plain weird btw.

Don’t think I’ve ever “hated” a manager to be honest.

For me, yes we might only be three games in (a poor Preston side, Wrexham reserves and QPR) but it’s the same old issues with substitutions.

QPR were getting dicked first half, so they did what any side whether it’s pro or Sunday league should do, they tinkered with the shape and nullified our threat. We didn’t respond to that in my view.

Having said that poor substitution timings and choices aren’t just on Wilder, Hecky was as bad.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

There's a growing number of entitled, moaning fannies that support us these days. Veruca Salts. The ground is like a morgue unless we score and, what's worse, at the first sign of adversity people turn. "I demand a win; if I don't get it I'll throw a strop and cry and cry and cry". A lot of this board has turned already because a team that's barely been together a week isn't the finished product - despite two wins and a draw so far this season. What happened to the old Blades fan ethos: you know, actually getting behind the team and management amd making it hostile for opponents? The Wilder, Warnock, Bassett haters are plain weird btw.

Wouldn't disagree and i guess it's to be expected after spending 3 of the last 5 seasons in the PL. Even more so when (despite the we've got no money narrative) when you look at what our team cost/weekly wage bill compared to 75% of the Championship...

I know it's hardly scientific but the demographic of our fan base does seem to be getting younger, and with that comes a very different mindset and attitude.

I've been seeing it with kids football. Just because some kid makes a mistake and you point it out and discuss it with them, their first reaction is that criticism = you think they're shit. Same round here. Saying Wilder fucked up, Burrows played badly doesn't mean we're bed-wetting - we're just discussing where it fucked up....

But the quietness of the ground when the pressure is on, i think you can directly correlate that to the bi-weekly hammerings we got last year! Think we all need some rehabilitation and a winning streak to put that behind us.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Don’t think I’ve ever “hated” a manager to be honest.

For me, yes we might only be three games in (a poor Preston side, Wrexham reserves and QPR) but it’s the same old issues with substitutions.

QPR were getting dicked first half, so they did what any side whether it’s pro or Sunday league should do, they tinkered with the shape and nullified our threat. We didn’t respond to that in my view.

Having said that poor substitution timings and choices aren’t just on Wilder, Hecky was as bad.

Sensible review! You ever thought about applying to be on the coaching staff?

 

[AWetFlannel]

Don’t think I’ve ever “hated” a manager to be honest.

For me, yes we might only be three games in (a poor Preston side, Wrexham reserves and QPR) but it’s the same old issues with substitutions.

QPR were getting dicked first half, so they did what any side whether it’s pro or Sunday league should do, they tinkered with the shape and nullified our threat. We didn’t respond to that in my view.

Having said that poor substitution timings and choices aren’t just on Wilder, Hecky was as bad.

Can barely remember seeing Klopp or Pep change the shape when things aren't working, and they rarely make subs to force it to happen either.

They trust the players and the plan they started with, expect the players to wrestle back control of the game and they usually do. When it doesn't work, I'm sure their forums are full of people saying "it's obvious to anyone x should have been done".

Had we made the subs early, people would find something else obvious that we should've done.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Wouldn't disagree and i guess it's to be expected after spending 3 of the last 5 seasons in the PL. Even more so when (despite the we've got no money narrative) when you look at what our team cost/weekly wage bill compared to 75% of the Championship...

I know it's hardly scientific but the demographic of our fan base does seem to be getting younger, and with that comes a very different mindset and attitude.

I've been seeing it with kids football. Just because some kid makes a mistake and you point it out and discuss it with them, their first reaction is that criticism = you think they're shit. Same round here. Saying Wilder fucked up, Burrows played badly doesn't mean we're bed-wetting - we're just discussing where it fucked up....

But the quietness of the ground when the pressure is on, i think you can directly correlate that to the bi-weekly hammerings we got last year! Think we all need some rehabilitation and a winning streak to put that behind us.

Got no data, but I'm fairly sure the demographics of every fan base will be getting older.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Got no data, but I'm fairly sure the demographics of every fan base will be getting older.

Fair point, and maybe it's my advancing years, but there seemed to be a lot more 'young uns' yesterday than i remember from last season..

 

[The Crab]

Sensible review! You ever thought about applying to be on the coaching staff?

Haha I’m already committed to Sundays

 

[CarlMcBlade]

After the first 15 minutes everybody was deliriously happy with the O’Hare/Hamer combination. We simply couldn’t believe our luck in being able to sign this pair of outrageous talents, who were systematically tearing QPR a new arsehole. Then it dawned me on why nobody else was seriously in the market for them…We seem to have a couple of hide and seek champions on our books.
It was no coincidence that when our attacking midfield threat subsided…our defensive problems began.
QPR bossed the midfield for a large chunk of the game, even with 10 men they were still coming forward. Yes, the defending was calamitous but our inability to control the game from the middle of the park especially against 10 men was quite alarming.

 

[The Crab]

Can barely remember seeing Klopp or Pep change the shape when things aren't working, and they rarely make subs to force it to happen either.

They trust the players and the plan they started with, expect the players to wrestle back control of the game and they usually do. When it doesn't work, I'm sure their forums are full of people saying "it's obvious to anyone x should have been done".

Had we made the subs early, people would find something else obvious that we should've done.

Fair point well made, but I’d counter that with Pep and Klopp have better players to work with

 

[Old Programme seller]

I know why CW Moore but the amount of decent service he got plus the gaping gap there was there’s no wonder they had a lot more of the game 2nd half. It’s funny every time Wilder has signed a big striker it’s never really worked out.

 

[Jan Age]

Our problem as been for a number of years now…

We simply don’t have a plan b

If plan a works it looks great

QPR adapted and we didn’t respond

This wilder love in has to stop he’s limited

 

[ekke287]

If wilder can see players not sticking to the script it is 100% his job to rectify it. It’s one of the main parts of his job.

I manage people at work, and if they stop listening / carrying out their projects then I’m accountable to my boss. I can’t just go back and say, well I told them but they didn’t listen sorry.

It’s like he’s afraid to piss off his big names while simultaneously being happy to throw them under the bus.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Our problem as been for a number of years now…

We simply don’t have a plan b

If plan a works it looks great

QPR adapted and we didn’t respond

This wilder love in has to stop he’s limited

And we can't accept having a limited manager, it's unacceptable. We need to get in a top, world class manager like Scott Parker or Daniel Farke.

 

[BladeInIreland]

If it was any other team we would be saying "they got alot of good players in but it's going to take time to gel". I think I like many got a bit carried away after beating a poor Preston side.

Wilder needed to make changes in players and shape but maybe he thought our best chance given the lack of game and training time together was to stick with what little we have done.

 

[Bladeulike]

My heart sank when I saw the return of the Bermuda Triangle of passing back to the gk then back out again, sideways across the pitch and back the the gk. We didn’t see it against Preston and have no idea why we have reverted to it now. It’s either a crap tactic or a tactic at which we are really crap. Either way, let’s just drop it and get the ball up the pitch where we have some talented midfielders instead of the inevitable hoof over the top to try and catch the opposition on the break. QPR taught us a lesson in crisp, effective, purposeful midfield play and surely we have the squad now to emulate that.

Agree that it’s far too early to start calling for anyone’s head and the team still barely know each other. However, in our ‘clear out’ let’s also clear out ‘building from the back’ when we clearly suck at it.

 

[TJ blade]

Wilder said the players went off script

Well alter the script then Wilder!!

 

[John Street West Terrace]

We fell back into old habits & sat way too deep in the second half and encouraged them to press onto us . We needed to be 20 yards further up the field , personally I would have brought JRS & Brewster on to feed off Moore with some pace to get behind their backline as he was just isolated the second & feeding off scraps as we’d retreated that far .
But all said & done we should have seen that out as they were two very poor goals we conceded , the 2nd particularly .
Not the end of the world by a long shot , but hopefully some lessons to be learned there . We all know this division is a tough one & a marathon not a sprint , 2 wins & a draw in a week after the massive squad overhaul we’ve had doesn’t warrant calls for replacing a manager .
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