Radio Sheffield - shit stirring bastards

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Foxy said:
No, you need one if you watch or record live broadcasts.
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Or rather, they say you need one to watch live broadcasts... however, the burden of proof is pretty highly stacked against them considering that you have no obligation to provide them with any information, nor allow them into the house. Their only means of catching you is simply by peeping in your window to see what you're watching. And they don't half get stroppy when you stick a video camera in their faces to catch them trying to bullshit you.
 

Not sure what the issue is. Surely the media's job is to report on new stories.... maybe you could call it stirring but if I was a journalist reporting on tonights dross; then of course seeing such a poor performance of course you would gage the mood of the fans. Seems pretty obvious and easy meat. That is what the media do. They report on news!

Sure some may decide not to comment but many may comment. If the guy had come near me I had told them what I thought because at half time I was fuming. It was diabolical.

Weir and his crap side have created the story. A radio station getting fans views to confirm how crap it is; is hardly something worth getting angry about. Radio Sheffield and the Star have many faults but hard to see how them asking a few fans their thoughts on a game (basically confirming how crap it was) can be seen as something to get so worked up over. Sadly think some are directing their ire in the wrong direction.
 
Deadbat said:
Not sure what the issue is. Surely the media's job is to report on new stories.... maybe you could call it stirring but if I was a journalist reporting on tonights dross; then of course seeing such a poor performance of course you would gage the mood of the fans. Seems pretty obvious and easy meat. That is what the media do. They report on news!
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As I said earlier, I don't think it was the "reporting on news" or "gauging the mood of the fans" that was the issue, more the gleeful attempts and methods of trying to influence fans into saying things that suited a specific reporting agenda.

Some people take issue with that, others don't. People are different.

I wish they would accurately report the unedited thoughts of fans more often, not just when it suits the presenter or the programme :)
 
LoughboroBlade said:
I personally don't get the constant negativity thrown Radio Sheffield's way - their interviews with staff are often good, their commentary is reasonable and their phone-ins are totally dependent on the calibre of fan that calls up.
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Don't the presenters/producers select from the callers who phone in pre radio interview?
 
Foxy said:
As I said earlier, I don't think it was the "reporting on news" or "gauging the mood of the fans" that was the issue, more the gleeful attempts and methods of trying to influence fans into saying things that suited a specific reporting agenda.

Some people take issue with that, others don't. People are different.

I wish they would accurately report the unedited thoughts of fans more often, not just when it suits the presenter or the programme :)
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...but surely people can say what they want. If they don't agree then they can view their points or disagree. It is not as it they have made people say 'we are crap' or 'we need a new manager'. Many fans feel that with or without a Radio Sheffield reporter leading them into thinking or saying that?

The Media will always take a certain angle. Always has and always will and will see a new story; positive or negative and try and get more on it. That will never change. That is their job. United are crap so of course getting fans reactions to another dire performance seems as pretty standard fare to me; same as when they got reactions to good times (play off times wins etc).

The media's aim is to get interest/listeners and sometimes they will seize on stories; good or bad. If I had been employed to work tonight for them or anyone else then I have to admit I too would have gone with the 'Weir's last chance saloon' angle. Even respected journalist such as Alan Biggs said the same. As I have said if you don't want to say anything then don't. Those that do will; as someone may have done tonight. Don't see issue whether you say it privately to a mate in the concourse, on twitter or to a Radio Sheffield presenter. How you voice your pleasure / displeasure is up to you. As I say if you don't want to respond then don't but if you do then that is your perogative.
 
I must first declare I write from a standpoint of non-attendance. Tonight I freed myself from the tyranny of throbbing veins in the temple and the r.s.i of continually clenched knuckles, choosing instead beer and burgers (see av) with other disillusioned Blades who will retire to bed this evening happy and relaxed instead of frustrated and vexed. Try it.

But, had I attended and witnessed what appears to be the latest low of the shite served up since the turn of the year, I'd be a lot more pissed off about that than some walloper from tin pot local radio trying to make a name for himself.
 
Deadbat said:
...but surely people can say what they want. If they don't agree then they can view their points or disagree. It is not as it they have made people say 'we are crap' or 'we need a new manager'. Many fans feel that with or without a Radio Sheffield reporter leading them into thinking or saying that?
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Well they could, but airing those and not hand picking and attempting to coax certain views would be better reporting would it not?

I think you are missing my point.

Deadbat said:
The Media will always take a certain angle. Always has and always will and will see a new story; positive or negative and try and get more on it. That will never change. That is their job. United are crap so of course getting fans reactions to another dire performance seems as pretty standard fare to me; same as when they got reactions to good times (play off times wins etc).
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Again, absolutely no problem with them getting reactions, that is their job.

Deadbat said:
The media's aim is to get interest/listeners and sometimes they will seize on stories; good or bad. If I had been employed to work tonight for them or anyone else then I have to admit I too would have gone with the 'Weir's last chance saloon' angle. Even respected journalist such as Alan Biggs said the same. As I have said if you don't want to say anything then don't. Those that do will; as someone may have done tonight. Don't see issue whether you say it privately to a mate in the concourse, on twitter or to a Radio Sheffield presenter. How you voice your pleasure / displeasure is up to you. As I say if you don't want to respond then don't but if you do then that is your prerogative.
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Again, absolutely no problem with people airing their views, whatever they are (that's the ethos of setting up a forum)... the gripe at hand is the methods at which certain views were coaxed and the way it was approached by an organisation which isn't supposed to have a particular agenda.

raul said:
But, had I attended and witnessed what appears to be the latest low of the shite served up since the turn of the year, I'd be a lot more pissed off about that than some walloper from tin pot local radio trying to make a name for himself.
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One is infinitely more frustrating than the other, that doesn't mean it should be the sole topic on the agenda though :)
 
May I declare an interest?

There's no doubt the vultures were circling last night. Going into the South Stand, Look North - complete with Tanya Arnold - had a camera crew there. Robert Page was sat next to Morgs at the back of the director's box. And then we had the radio-interview guy from RS.

About 30 mins. before kick-off he approached me (I was the 'Trevor' he interviewed) and a guy who sits behind me. I've got 51 years of support in and the other guy over 60, so we were hardly 'Johnny-come-latelys'.

The young guy with the mike (Johnathan, I think) was very good & professional. He gave us about 10 minutes to think about our answers to his specific questions, so we were hardly 'mugged'.

One question he put was 'What do you think the score will be, and do you think Weir will still be manager?'. I said 2-1 to Crawley and Weir will still be here on Monday, because those upstairs won't want to admit they've made yet another mistake.

The RS guy did say something interesting after our 'interview'. He pulled me to one side and lowered his voice like a pantomime conspirator (dunno why, there were hardly and fans about). He said 'Whisper it, but I'm a Leeds fan and, a few years ago we tried exactly the same as what Weir is doing with McAllister as manager - a very good technical player expecting too much from players with nowhere near his level of talent. It was an absolute disaster.'

Afterwards in the pub, several of my mates had heard me and said me and the other bloke came across really well - a total contrast to the average muppets on P & G.
 
Foxy said:
Again, absolutely no problem with people airing their views, whatever they are (that's the ethos of setting up a forum)... the gripe at hand is the methods at which certain views were coaxed and the way it was approached by an organisation which isn't supposed to have a particular agenda.
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How were they asked? Be interested. Were people not given a chance to offer an opinion or to disagree? Interesting that grafikaus said it was fair and balanced.

Sadly I don't think any of us would watch TV, listen to the radio or read the internet/papers if we felt there was an agenda there. Most have some slant, some bias or beliefs. We can choose to agree/disagree. That is the way of the world. I don't like or agree with everything I see on Sky but wont not subscribe because I simply like watching Football/Sport and can form my opinions.

Through their selection and display of the news stories, the reporters and the editors in any form of media focus their attention and influence the public's perceptions of what are the most important issues of the day. Is this agenda setting? Maybe but if journalists merely just reported what went on and did not offer opinion or try and create stories, most would be out of work.

At the end of the day if we were not embarrassingly bad then there would be no news story.
 
Linz said:
Nope. They have no right to enter your property to prove anything. And detector vans don't exist.

And anyway, we don't have an aerial. Nor a TV plugged into anything capable of receiving a signal. So even if, by some serious lapse of concentration Foxy or I did let them in the house, they can't actually prove that we need in the first place.
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I presume you can get live BBC Radio on your laptop or mobile...

It's not whether or not you do watch or listen, it's whether or not you have a piece of equipment that is capable of receiving said transmissions that counts I believe, whether or not you use it.
I don't think that saying that you never watch/listen is an excuse if you have the equipment capable of receiving audio or video transmissions.

I could be wrong, but I'm sure one of the resident legal-eagles will help out.

I guess we just don't want you guys to get fined.
 
I think you only have to read what is happening among the fans to know that the results are causing the story, the fans are reacting, and the media are making the most of it. I didn't go last night or listen as I'm not in Sheffield, but I was expecting even if we won the Weir bashing would be in full flow (rightly so), so the media levels to be high regardless.

Good luck with the licence, I haven't had one for about 3 years now, legitimately(probably) I might add. Even when I was unable to view TV as it's being broadcast (due to digital switchover), when the postie delivers a envelope stamped "Notice of Intended Prosecution" through your door, you'll realise how low they'll sink to get your/their money. I felt I had to explain to the Postie that I wasn't in trouble with the law. It is implied guilt because I didn't watch TV. I moved house last year, and one of the first jobs we did was chop the co-ax cable from the antenna to the house. Whether I can/do watch TV live on my PC is, genuinely, I don't know as I haven't tried. After a few weeks, you won't miss TV.
 
I went without a TV for a year or so when I lived in That London. I don't remember any nastiness but quite a few "are you sure you haven't got a TV?" letters.
 
No Born on Shoreham,

You are wrong. You can watch TV on nearly every mobile 'phone sold now can't you?. How would it be possible to get the licence fee from everyone who had an android 'phone or an iPhone?

I DID have an inspection from a TV licence fee chap a couple of years ago. When you have a relatively itinerant life'style', every time you sign a new tenancy, the BBC gets notified by someone, so you are bombarded with menacing letters in red ink from them about how illegal it is to watch TV without a licence.

So I thought about it and decided that I would be better off not watching TV and drawing, philandering, carousing, reading and watching DVDs etc. etc.instead. I did keep a TV set for a while, it was attached to a CD/DVD player but the aerial was capped off. When An Inspector Called, he was quite happy to see that I wasn't a TV watcher and I avoided imprisonment.

I don't like the BBC principally because for a 'tax' funded organisation it 'employs' too many sons and daughters of people who grew fat on the licence fees viz. The Dimblebys, the Snows and others and multitudes of their offspring. I think it makes many beautiful programmes for TV but it makes a lot of rubbishy padding in order to fill the 7 or 8 overstuffed channels it feels the need to run. Also they duplicate news coverage between stations like Radios 4 and 5live as if just to show they have more money than sense.

Now there exists the iPlayer I can watch what I want when I want to without being regimented into a strict timetable for my life imposed by the BBC.

I listen to the radio (for free and legally) but on Radio Sheff. I only listen to away games (the odd home game) and Grumble and Grumble.

NOW, if Foxy and Linz being such regular Bramall Lane goers have never seen the BBC reporters innocently going about their business its because logically (and helpfully) the BBC covers the United or Wednesday AWAY matches with more reporters than they have at home games. But then I suppose you go away too...

Anyway, I think it is pretty daft to consider Radio Sheffield biased against you or us.

When you get so wound up by it all, isn't that a cue to be less religious about supporting such a bad team. Go rambling, plant a garden, spot some birds. Stop wasting your money on the Blades, it will liberate your minds, believe me,

I'm a part-time supporter, Johnny come Lately for the past 40 years if you like.

ITS THE BEST WAY TO BE.
 
Seems to me the subject of this thread mirrors exactly what the OP is complaining about- someone trying to create an issue about something that is not an issue.

Shock horror - local radio solicits opinions on local football team in a mess.
 

LoughboroBlade said:
If anyone wants to listen to Walker's post-match interview with Weir in full, it's here: http://audioboo.fm/boos/1641384-suf...erpw-after-the-blades-1-all-draw-with-crawley

And no, I don't think his question where he quotes Phipps is shit-stirring either.
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At that question Weir was audibly shocked. He demanded who had said it and I detected a sense of crestfallen fear in his reaction.
Maybe he has felt untouchable until now.
He just has to see that Division 3 players do not perform at the same level as he is used to. Consequently HE has to adapt - otherwise his tenure as a manager at any football club will start and end here.

I understand where he wants to get to but he has to take a route there, not a tele- transportation.
 
Kenilworth said:
At that question Weir was audibly shocked. He demanded who had said it and I detected a sense of crestfallen fear in his reaction.
Maybe he has felt untouchable until now.
He just has to see that Division 3 players do not perform at the same level as he is used to. Consequently HE has to adapt - otherwise his tenure as a manager at any football club will start and end here.

I understand where he wants to get to but he has to take a route there, not a tele- transportation.
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To be honest , he must be very,very naive (or a very good actor) if he was shocked by the fact that those upstairs are beginning to question his credibility.

Hopefully it will stop him treating the management of SUFC as some sort of footballing experiment for him to indulge his ideas and methods on. It would be better for us if he went away and theorised on a computer football game
 
raul said:
But, had I attended and witnessed what appears to be the latest low of the shite served up since the turn of the year, I'd be a lot more pissed off about that than some walloper from tin pot local radio trying to make a name for himself.
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Actually it was worse than that.There wasn't enough passion to bring on rsi. The only passion from our four attendees was arguing with each other at half time because of our frustration. Truly awful first half which made the second half look just about decent.
 
BornOnShoreham said:
I presume you can get live BBC Radio on your laptop or mobile...

It's not whether or not you do watch or listen, it's whether or not you have a piece of equipment that is capable of receiving said transmissions that counts I believe, whether or not you use it.
I don't think that saying that you never watch/listen is an excuse if you have the equipment capable of receiving audio or video transmissions.

I could be wrong, but I'm sure one of the resident legal-eagles will help out.

I guess we just don't want you guys to get fined.
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Respectfully, you are wrong. We won't get fined because we don't and won't watch or record live broadcasts, not that they could tell even if we did, which we don't. Having equipment that can makes absolutely no difference.

I'm happy to report that at half time up here at the academy, despite losing 3-0, I didn't get a gleeful reporter attempting to cajole me into ranting about Travis Binnion.

I can also report that the first team were training this morning.
 
Because I watch TV programmes on my computer via t'internet, then OF COURSE, they can tell what I have been watching! The Police spend half their time tracking people's internet browsing habits don't they?

I would have thought any digital broadcasts and views were traceable in the same way, not that the BBC would be too interested, like I say they try a bit of blackmail via their red letters and tend to let it lie after that.

As for what 'live' broadcast means....well, I think you need a licence to watch TV at the same time it is broadcast or listed in the Radio or TV Times. Now you can flip the programme back to the start while it is 'on the air' I think there may be a legal loophole and some bored judge will have to name the legal cut-off time be it 5 minutes or 30 minutes later than the TV programme was originally aired.
 

JohnDenver said:
I've not seen anything like that outside of Man v Food. For clarity, is the burger 'garnished' with a whole bacon sandwich?

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To be fair, it's only a little bacon sandwich.
 
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