Hecky's post match verdict

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…but even if we sack him whoever comes in hasn’t got a single player anywhere near PL level and only a few that would cut it int championship. Clubs f**ked under princes stewardship. Yeh sacking Hecky will give fans a short term bit of blood but the club is on a downward spiral unless we get new owners. Even then out of contract players will walk thinking it’s not their fault and it will take 4/5 seasons to rebuild the squad after however long it takes to get the club sold.
 



"yes i could say something about the referee but what's the point?" even though i just have.
 
Agreed mate, but we all suspect it will now be over fairly soon.
Shame, but I'd like to see us stop slagging him off and wish him well.
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I don't think it is that people don't wish him well. I personally respect him as a person, I think he comes across well and for what it's worth, I feel that he genuinely cares about the club and his players....

But it only gets you so far doesn't it... you can't keep a bloke on sentiment alone and at the detriment of the club.

He's put of his depth and he doesn't have the experience to manage a team against the class that we are up against. The structure of the management team as a whole lacks experience at this level and we haven't recruited a large analyst team to support the inexperience either...

Fail to prepare means prepare to fail.

I wish him nothing but well, but unfortunately he has to walk from the club now if he isn't sent marching. He has a championship promotion on his CV now and will walk back into Football League employment without problem.... That is if he isn't overly proud! He's a coach and still has a role to play in developmental football at the club.
 
I don't think it is that people don't wish him well. I personally respect him as a person, I think he comes across well and for what it's worth, I feel that he genuinely cares about the club and his players....

But it only gets you so far doesn't it... you can't keep a bloke on sentiment alone and at the detriment of the club.

He's put of his depth and he doesn't have the experience to manage a team against the class that we are up against. The structure of the management team as a whole lacks experience at this level and we haven't recruited a large analyst team to support the inexperience either...

Fail to prepare means prepare to fail.

I wish him nothing but well, but unfortunately he has to walk from the club now if he isn't sent marching. He has a championship promotion on his CV now and will walk back into Football League employment without problem.... That is if he isn't overly proud! He's a coach and still has a role to play in developmental football at the club.
He’s on a 5 year contract so he’ll wait to get his 2 years paid up. I would
 
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Just get him sacked. My old man's a nice fella but I wouldn't want him managing United either.

Stop with this 'hes a nice guy bollocks'. Hes not doing it for charity, hes getting paid very well for doing a piss poor performance (along with the team for that matter). But starting a PL game with Fleck and Norwood and Thomas at lb is just inexcusable. Just sack him please.
 
"There are always positives... Nogood' pointing & armwaving was excellent today and his short, square/bacwards passing was sublime. If everone took a leaf from his book we'd be even better than we are!!"
 
He’s on a 5 year contract so he’ll wait to get his 2 years paid up. I would

I wouldn't expect his to be that black and white personally. I would think (or at least hope) that the club will have learnt from the Wilder fall out.....

I'm sure that there will be a pay out due, but not the the extent of his remaining years.
 
I don't think it is that people don't wish him well. I personally respect him as a person, I think he comes across well and for what it's worth, I feel that he genuinely cares about the club and his players....

But it only gets you so far doesn't it... you can't keep a bloke on sentiment alone and at the detriment of the club.

He's put of his depth and he doesn't have the experience to manage a team against the class that we are up against. The structure of the management team as a whole lacks experience at this level and we haven't recruited a large analyst team to support the inexperience either...

Fail to prepare means prepare to fail.

I wish him nothing but well, but unfortunately he has to walk from the club now if he isn't sent marching. He has a championship promotion on his CV now and will walk back into Football League employment without problem.... That is if he isn't overly proud! He's a coach and still has a role to play in developmental football at the club.
Totally agree, pal.
We have to move on but there is a lot more pain to go through before anything gets better at the club. We are all angry tonight but sometimes you need to take a step back and realise where you are. There are a lot of club worse off than us and it's no good guessing and fearing the worst by saying "we'll go down two divisions" or "we won't even do well in the Championship" because there is no evidence of that, in fact you could say that there is evidence to the contrary.
Buckle up. Long way to go.
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Hecky …. Listen this is best league in world and we are getting there until sending off we were in game..

Me to Hecky …..fuck off
 
…but even if we sack him whoever comes in hasn’t got a single player anywhere near PL level and only a few that would cut it int championship. Clubs f**ked under princes stewardship. Yeh sacking Hecky will give fans a short term bit of blood but the club is on a downward spiral unless we get new owners. Even then out of contract players will walk thinking it’s not their fault and it will take 4/5 seasons to rebuild the squad after however long it takes to get the club sold.

And also... if he was due a full pay off. He is on around a £1m a year, with 3 years remaining on his contract. The club would strike a deal on severance and the would probably get a maximum 2/3s of that.

But even £3m isn't a ridiculous pay off when he earnt the club three figure millions this year.
 
"Thought Oli getting sent off changed the game tbh, we matched Burnley in all departments, we move on to liverpool, it's another game, another chance of 3points " "Paul!, a message from PA , can you go and pick Neil Warnock up on your way home?, can't afford taxis, thanks!"
 



All this Hecky is a nice guy so show some respect is nonsense He is a lucky man to even be in charge of the blades. He's not good enough and never was.
How does the first point contradict the second? He can be both a decent bloke deserving of respect and not good enough to be our manager...
 
How does the first point contradict the second? He can be both a decent bloke deserving of respect and not good enough to be our manager...
I'm not sure he's a decent bloke and if he's still not walked by Monday he deserves no respect
 
I'm not sure he's a decent bloke and if he's still not walked by Monday he deserves no respect
What makes you think that?

If he walked would he get respect or would he get the derision aimed at Wilder after he did the same?
 
All this Hecky is a nice guy so show some respect is nonsense He is a lucky man to even be in charge of the blades. He's not good enough and never was.
He , at least , helped us go down with a little bit of dignity from the prem when others were jumping ship - he then turned the Slav shitshow around and miraculously finished in the playoffs- then he got us promoted to the prem and earned the money that at least stabilised a club arguably on the road to insolvency ,whilst those above him tried their level best to off load the club to any old shitester - as well as letting our proud club enter into a transfer embargo by not paying bills because said shitester didn’t pay the prince the £2m he was earmarking for club survival .

He received not one bit of strategically planned help to get us over then line - but the prince came out to say he kept Berger and IN when in actual fact they decided not to go . The same prince who only showed up when we were up and in the cup semi .

He hasnt been seen since .

Our manager has also arguably been on the end of one of worst pre season transfer planning in prem history . A total disgrace.

So yes - he does need to go because he is drowning - he has made mistakes and he seems to be bewildered with it all , as do his players .

…. But please , don’t give the crap that he was never good enough .
 
…and give up millions in compensation ? Would you ?

We can stop all this “oooh but yeah what a nice bloke” bollocks then.

Wilder tried to resign three times before the prince finally let him and he still gets pelters for that. He knew he’d had enough and he felt he couldnt turn it round. He actually did his best by the club for offering to step aside and let someone else do it.

Says a lot about the integrity of the two that one of them seemingly isn’t willing to do the best for the club.
 
There's no point in insulting the bloke. He's given it everything with poor resources and made mistakes. He's a good man (imo) and deserves a bit of respect as he leaves as there was never any hope for this season to start with.
Let's show some class. It costs nothing.
Good luck Hecky.
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Agree he doesn’t deserve insults but he does deserve negative criticism.

Of course there’s hope otherwise what was the poor in being promoted. We’re Sheffield United, spent most of our history in the top flight, the size of our clubs suggests we should be playing at PL level.

These are supposed to be decent Championship level players. We have better individual players than Luton Town and spent more than them but watch their matches, they are competitive every game and try to win.

If they can play as a team giving full effort then why can’t we.
 
He , at least , helped us go down with a little bit of dignity from the prem when others were jumping ship - he then turned the Slav shitshow around and miraculously finished in the playoffs- then he got us promoted to the prem and earned the money that at least stabilised a club arguably on the road to insolvency ,whilst those above him tried their level best to off load the club to any old shitester - as well as letting our proud club enter into a transfer embargo by not paying bills because said shitester didn’t pay the prince the £2m he was earmarking for club survival .

He received not one bit of strategically planned help to get us over then line - but the prince came out to say he kept Berger and IN when in actual fact they decided not to go . The same prince who only showed up when we were up and in the cup semi .

He hasnt been seen since .

Our manager has also arguably been on the end of one of worst pre season transfer planning in prem history . A total disgrace.

So yes - he does need to go because he is drowning - he has made mistakes and he seems to be bewildered with it all , as do his players .

…. But please , don’t give the crap that he was never good enough .

I agree with a large percentage of what you have written, but in terms of the top flight he hasn't done anything to prove the bold otherwise to be incorrect.

He's had injuries, but he can't hide behind them when he is playing people out of position and tactically setting us up to fail (so to speak).

The summer was poor in terms of preperatiom, however despite the ridiculous surroundings of the Berge and Ndiaye sales... the manager did still have spendo's, £55m to be more precise. Now okay, in terms of PL spendo's, this isn't a luxury budget..... but I feel it could have been spent a little better. We bought young, but we bought inexperience, we bought a lack of physicality and height.... We would have probably had more success buying grit and determination, as opposed to gambling for the future.

Hecky had an opportunity to place his own tactical stanp on things, to change certain elements up and tweak the system in his recruitment.... and he chose not to.

We know every week that we are under the cosh, we are playing the best in the world at the end of the day. But nothing changes in our approach to the game! We play players out of position and we are attempting the same dire tactics every week..... We aren't going to outclass them with this squad, so you make us hard to play against and hard to beat.

Don't get me started on his failure to change things up during games. I get it, we don't have a gifted bench.... but what we do have is fresh legs and athleticism. When the opponent throws the dice and lobs on 5 high quality subs, why sit and wait to act??. Half the team is suddenly packed with energy against our tired legs. But he has persevered and it has cost us multiple times this season already....

This level is too much for Hecky in my opinion and it isn't a personal bash on the bloke, because I personally feel his heart is in the right place. He's simply out of his depth.

So in terms of PL football.... I will openly say that I dont think he is good enough.
 
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…but even if we sack him whoever comes in hasn’t got a single player anywhere near PL level and only a few that would cut it int championship. Clubs f**ked under princes stewardship. Yeh sacking Hecky will give fans a short term bit of blood but the club is on a downward spiral unless we get new owners. Even then out of contract players will walk thinking it’s not their fault and it will take 4/5 seasons to rebuild the squad after however long it takes to get the club sold.

The Wilder team didn’t have any players at PL level but were challenging for a Champions League spot.

Luton have lower quality players than us but look at how they are tackling the season. They thrive/ enjoy being underdogs where as we are scared and give up. The players just need leadership and tactics playing to their strengths.
 
Listen …(undoes lid of water bottle. Takes drink. Replaces lid. Undoes lid again. Takes another drink). Listen, you just have to look at their windows…
 
We can stop all this “oooh but yeah what a nice bloke” bollocks then.

Wilder tried to resign three times before the prince finally let him and he still gets pelters for that. He knew he’d had enough and he felt he couldnt turn it round. He actually did his best by the club for offering to step aside and let someone else do it.

Says a lot about the integrity of the two that one of them seemingly isn’t willing to do the best for the club.
It would only be best for the club if there is a replacement who could make a group of limited talent players have more talent. I am not sure CW leaving made us any better in the short term.
 



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