One last Job Sharon

[Champagneblade]

It’s very difficult and a tad unfair to judge Neil’s Prem record.

Marco Silva for example has waltzed into PL jobs and he’s also enjoyed jobs at clubs with serious cash.

Warnock has pretty much exclusively managed clubs he’s had to take there himself and subsequently clubs who had poor top flight budgets who were everyone’s tips for relegation.

We went down by 1 goal under him, didn’t we? Rob Styles either not making up intent as a rule or not refusing a blatant assault on Luton Shelton by Gabriel Heinze and we’d have been safe. Not to mention Tevez, he can count himself unlucky.

He got QPR up, they binned him when he wasn’t even in the bottom three, appointee Mark Hughes who spent money never afforded to Warnock and he took them down.

Who else? A caretaker stint at Palace? Notts County after he’d taken them up two divisions? Cardiff after he’d taken them up himself again?

All expected to go down. All with poor budgets when he was manager.

He’s not got an offer from someone like Villa for instance yet Gerrard waltzed in there a mere novice and don’t talk to me about Lampard’s easy ride to the top table.

So I get the conclusion, but I find it an unfair one on the whole due to the mitigating circumstances.

 

[Davalon]

Mid 70s, failed every time been in this league, drags the clubs name through the mud with his behaviour, and plays a brand of football that hasn't had any impact whatsoever in this league for nigh on 15 years.

But hey, upandat'em, Blade etc etc.

Backwards doesn't begin to explain it. The outlook of a notable section of our fanbase depresses me.

 

[S6Blademan]

It’s very difficult and a tad unfair to judge Neil’s Prem record.

Marco Silva for example has waltzed into PL jobs and he’s also enjoyed jobs at clubs with serious cash.

Warnock has pretty much exclusively managed clubs he’s had to take there himself and subsequently clubs who had poor top flight budgets who were everyone’s tips for relegation.

We went down by 1 goal under him, didn’t we? Rob Styles either not making up intent as a rule or not refusing a blatant assault on Luton Shelton by Gabriel Heinze and we’d have been safe. Not to mention Tevez, he can count himself unlucky.

He got QPR up, they binned him when he wasn’t even in the bottom three, appointee Mark Hughes who spent money never afforded to Warnock and he took them down.

Who else? A caretaker stint at Palace? Notts County after he’d taken them up two divisions? Cardiff after he’d taken them up himself again?

All expected to go down. All with poor budgets when he was manager.

He’s not got an offer from someone like Villa for instance yet Gerrard waltzed in there a mere novice and don’t talk to me about Lampard’s easy ride to the top table.

So I get the conclusion, but I find it an unfair one on the whole due to the mitigating circumstances.

I think it is all relative

Look at someone like Graham Potter what has he done to deserve the chelsea job? Got Brighton to mid table

Why should he get a job over a wilder who has achieved more than potter

Eddie howe struggled to get another prem Gig and only got newcastle because Emery turned them down

 

[S6Blademan]

Mid 70s, failed every time been in this league, drags the clubs name through the mud with his behaviour, and plays a brand of football that hasn't had any impact whatsoever in this league for nigh on 15 years.

But hey, upandat'em, Blade etc etc.

Backwards doesn't begin to explain it. The outlook of a notable section of our fanbase depresses me.

Like i said thats all far better than where we are at right now

 

[Davalon]

Like i said thats all far better than where we are at right now

We all know it's just spam anyway but maybe try a bit of imagination at least.

 

[wavy-blade]

Gone to Wendy

 

[diode_blade]

On a different slant, I would perhaps think about bringing Knilly back to the coaching staff, if he would come back.
Just a thought.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

I'll be the one to say it... yes.

We would get some identity, some fight, some tactical improvements and a bit of a siege mentality going. Which would be a significant improvement on what we have at the moment.

Yes we would definitely still go down, but we would have a chance of getting 12 points.

Yes,I'd at least hope he'd sort out some kind of defensive strategy,got to be an improvement and a bit of siege mentality wouldn't go amiss.

 

[alcoblade]

Go through his record in the league we currently find ourselves in.

The one time he had any reasonable resource he was above the relegation zone when sacked.

 

[alcoblade]

It’s very difficult and a tad unfair to judge Neil’s Prem record.

Marco Silva for example has waltzed into PL jobs and he’s also enjoyed jobs at clubs with serious cash.

Warnock has pretty much exclusively managed clubs he’s had to take there himself and subsequently clubs who had poor top flight budgets who were everyone’s tips for relegation.

We went down by 1 goal under him, didn’t we? Rob Styles either not making up intent as a rule or not refusing a blatant assault on Luton Shelton by Gabriel Heinze and we’d have been safe. Not to mention Tevez, he can count himself unlucky.

He got QPR up, they binned him when he wasn’t even in the bottom three, appointee Mark Hughes who spent money never afforded to Warnock and he took them down.

Who else? A caretaker stint at Palace? Notts County after he’d taken them up two divisions? Cardiff after he’d taken them up himself again?

All expected to go down. All with poor budgets when he was manager.

He’s not got an offer from someone like Villa for instance yet Gerrard waltzed in there a mere novice and don’t talk to me about Lampard’s easy ride to the top table.

So I get the conclusion, but I find it an unfair one on the whole due to the mitigating circumstances.

This.

And like us, Cardiff were robbed too.

 

[Stegosaurus]

It’s very difficult and a tad unfair to judge Neil’s Prem record.

Marco Silva for example has waltzed into PL jobs and he’s also enjoyed jobs at clubs with serious cash.

Warnock has pretty much exclusively managed clubs he’s had to take there himself and subsequently clubs who had poor top flight budgets who were everyone’s tips for relegation.

We went down by 1 goal under him, didn’t we? Rob Styles either not making up intent as a rule or not refusing a blatant assault on Luton Shelton by Gabriel Heinze and we’d have been safe. Not to mention Tevez, he can count himself unlucky.

He got QPR up, they binned him when he wasn’t even in the bottom three, appointee Mark Hughes who spent money never afforded to Warnock and he took them down.

Who else? A caretaker stint at Palace? Notts County after he’d taken them up two divisions? Cardiff after he’d taken them up himself again?

All expected to go down. All with poor budgets when he was manager.

He’s not got an offer from someone like Villa for instance yet Gerrard waltzed in there a mere novice and don’t talk to me about Lampard’s easy ride to the top table.

So I get the conclusion, but I find it an unfair one on the whole due to the mitigating circumstances.

Hi Stegosaurus here

100% agree

People seem to forget how close it was when we went down. 1 goal and a bunch of dodgy decisions throughout and the West Ham thing.

And as you said, he was sacked early with QPR while doing an acceptable job.

 

[steve26272]

Go through his record in the league we currently find ourselves in.

Agree

So your looking to replace a bloke who you think isnt good enough for the Premier league, and propose to replace him with a bloke thats proven hes not good enough for the Premier league

I said at the time we should sack Warnock if we stay up, keep him if we go down - may seem backwards but hes good at taking teams there, but not keeping them there

Add to that the EPL has moved on, playing out from the back, high pressing etc

If you think we get labelled agricultural and aggressive now, what would we be under Neil

Not wanting to slate someones idea without an offering however, I would see if we can get Hastenhuttl, with Neil in a DoF role or something if you must

 

[wizadry]

The one time he had any reasonable resource he was above the relegation zone when sacked.

Fair enough Alco, I’ve said my piece on Neil many many times before, I’m not going to put every fucker through it again for all our sakes but it’s a clear no from me mate.

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

alans a cunt

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I'd take him back on a short term contract until the end of the season while a search started for a long-term successor for Hecky. I don't think for an instant Warnock would keep us up, but my God we wouldn't see these limp pathetic performances that we've seen all season. We'd be organised, we'd have some fight in us and the players wouldn't dare give up. I imagine he'd also give some massive bollockings in the changing room at full and half time, and on the training pitch. I think McBurnie would hugely benefit from Warnock being in charge. Whilst I'm never a believer in looking to the past and going back, Warnock would at least see us to the end of the season with a bit of identity and pride. I don't think it would ever happen as I don't think his ego would want another relegation on his CV.

 

[alcoblade]

Agree

So your looking to replace a bloke who you think isnt good enough for the Premier league, and propose to replace him with a bloke thats proven hes not good enough for the Premier league

I said at the time we should sack Warnock if we stay up, keep him if we go down - may seem backwards but hes good at taking teams there, but not keeping them there

Add to that the EPL has moved on, playing out from the back, high pressing etc

If you think we get labelled agricultural and aggressive now, what would we be under Neil

Not wanting to slate someones idea without an offering however, I would see if we can get Hastenhuttl, with Neil in a DoF role or something if you must

I’m not really keen on the idea of Warnock coming back, but you can be certain that we couldn’t be any worse than we are right now.

We don’t possess a single redeeming feature, we have absolutely zero identity now. Courtesy of Bergen Blade ;

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

No.Warnock’s PL record is terrible.

 

[Nagima]

No.Warnock’s PL record is terrible.

You have to view the context. He never had much money either. That PL team just needed a striker. I wouldn't bring him in at this stage. What I would do is poach Mark Robins from Coventry and tell him to work away on developing a style and system we can identify with.

 

[Nah den]

It can't get any worse can it. So whether it's Warnock or someone else we need someone to shake things up, get some fight and desire into these players. Coming out after Saturday and saying we were comfortable until the second went in (or words to that effect) is sending completely the wrong message to the players and fans. They need a rocket, some direction, a clear plan. Probably won't keep us up, but we won't have given up in October, which is what it feels like now.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Carrick

did a great job at Boro last season & after a rocky start ( having lost their two main goalscorers) seems to have got them back on track. Even though we are premiership, doubt he would see us as much of a step up from his current job. Good shout though.

 

[brownblade]

Yes. For the laugh

Then if he kept us up it would be story of the season

He'd get us at least 15 points

Maybe we could get a tonne of ridiculous sponsors on (newly-popular) Warnock's match day tracksuits, to keep us solvent a few more years.

 

[brownblade]

How though when you are saying replace the manager so we can stay in the premier league? Make your fucking mind up!

He's probably lost track of which account he/she has logged in with

 

[Esteban Cambiasso]

Definitely have him back, were going down regardless and at least it wouldn't be dull. Paddy kenny and jags back till the end of the season, 2 nil down at home against forest, do we sure up the defence and try and keep the score down, nope let's bring 5 strikers and fleck to headbut Gibbs-White, cause a riot and get the game called off.... that's entertainment

 

[steve26272]

I’m not really keen on the idea of Warnock coming back, but you can be certain that we couldn’t be any worse than we are right now.

We don’t possess a single redeeming feature, we have absolutely zero identity now. Courtesy of Bergen Blade ;

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Don’t disagree with that

But, Hecky has proved himself (1playoff, 1 auto) he can operate in the championship

Don’t see point in sacking at cost HJS to replace them so we end on 17 points instead of 12, if we accept NW won’t keep us up

Either someone who has a chance of keeping us up, or someone for next season

Seen Birmingham a few time this season, Eustace has impressed if we’re plotting for next year and it’s not PH

 

[Snowflake]

It has worked at almost every job he has had go luck at his CV

He is one of the most decorated english managers ever

Not too many PL successes on his cv. There must be a reason for that.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I don’t hate this idea. If nothing else it’d be entertaining! Would only be a contract to the end of this season - giving us ample time to appoint the long term solution. The odds would be completely against Warnock to keep us up, but he’d love that, and if he pulled it off it’d be the best possible way to finish his career and drive off into the sunset. Roll the dice.

 

[alcoblade]

Don’t disagree with that

But, Hecky has proved himself (1playoff, 1 auto) he can operate in the championship

Don’t see point in sacking at cost HJS to replace them so we end on 17 points instead of 12, if we accept NW won’t keep us up

Either someone who has a chance of keeping us up, or someone for next season

Seen Birmingham a few time this season, Eustace has impressed if we’re plotting for next year and it’s not PH

The problem with making a change now is that we’d hate the next manager by the end of the season anyway. Warnock would tick the box until the end of the season. Lots of negatives though too

 

[Half Bond Jls]

Don't talk wet. F#@£ing Warnock jeez. Leave the past in the past.

 

[s20Blade]

It has worked at almost every job he has had go luck at his CV

He is one of the most decorated english managers ever

All them just avoided relegation medals?

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

Nope, if we are going to go for a short term patch up the team kind of manager, then there is a lot better the Warnock, Allardyce being the obvious one.