Stephen Bettis speaks to local Media

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Certain people on here will actively look for things to blame the club for, and if there isn’t anything they will make things up.

The club gets things wrong because “the club” is a collection of human beings. I also get things wrong for the same reason. After all, “to err is human”. In fact the only people who don’t are those that constantly whine about the club because, of course, they are perfect in every way.

Even when the club gets things right....for some reason they still get wrong.

Found it just typical that the Prince does an interview explaining our transfer policy going forward,
he specifically said ALL the Berge and N'Diaye money would be spent in addition to the original plan.
He wouldn't reveal the amount we have for spending but said it was substantial.

Immediately after the interview
Those that complain that the club never communicate we the ones insisting "he's lying"
and "you're gullible if anyone things we going to spend any money to try and replace N'Diaye and Berge"
and "he's determinate to see us relegated because he wants to take the money and run" with insults like Poundland Prince and Bogroll Prince.
If I won 500 million on the lottery there's no way I'd invest in SUFC, I'd probably end up fighting with some of our self-entitled fans.

Amazingly I even heard the comments "we always sell our best players" and "we never spend anything in the transfer window".
Here's me thinking, under the Prince don't think we've sold any of our best players in the last 5 years
and we were one the highest spenders in the Premier League not ling ago spending 110 million in 2 years on transfers.

Assume it's psychological trauma from selling Currie, Sabella, Edwards, Deane, Fjortoft even Kevin McDonald...kicking in
especially we you realise we didn't make any effort to replace these players. At least Hamer for Berge and Archer for N'Diaye is a decent attempt.

Regards the Bettis interview, lets not forget it was done with the incentive of improving club/ fan relations, so naturally there's going to be a bias slant on it
where Bettis bigs up his achievements and explains away his mistakes as "just one of them things, can happen to anyone".

However I do know someone who's opinion I trust and he knows Bettis really well, both professionally and personally.
He assured me that Bettis is a sound, really nice guy and assured me he's also good at his job. Told me we're in good hands.
 

The tricky thing is that the majority of us wish that football didn’t run like the business that it is. Yes we’d all like the club to remain solvent and “live within our means”, but we also want to keep our best players especially when they are as exciting as Ndiaye. It’s difficult to agree with Bettis that selling our players for a profit is a big positive because we all just want to go to the Lane and see the best players. It’s pretty hard to be a fan following a club in modern football- knowing who the CEO is and watching him chat for 30 mins is not why any of us got into football.

Agree with the sentiment but that's not realistic.
Football stopped being a sport decades ago.....now it's big business controlled by agents.
A least with N'Diaye he followed his heart and didn't leave for the money.

There's a pecking order and even a club like Spurs constantly fail to keep any of their best players.
Lost Berbatov, Modric, Bale, Kane. They all wanted to leave for greater things. Imagine being a Spurs fan knowing anyone with world class talent will be sold.

Even Liverpool are a selling club and you can imagine in a few years Man City will be forced to sell when Haaland insists he wants to leave for Real Madrid.

Clubs like Brighton and Brentford are seen as the gold standard regards how clubs should be run.
Borussia Dortmund even advertise that it's their model. Buy really good players....improve them into world beaters.....then sell at a big profit.
 
The tricky thing is that the majority of us wish that football didn’t run like the business that it is. Yes we’d all like the club to remain solvent and “live within our means”, but we also want to keep our best players especially when they are as exciting as Ndiaye. It’s difficult to agree with Bettis that selling our players for a profit is a big positive because we all just want to go to the Lane and see the best players. It’s pretty hard to be a fan following a club in modern football- knowing who the CEO is and watching him chat for 30 mins is not why any of us got into football.
Spot on, but it is what football has become. We either accept that or we find a different hobby.
 
Slow, inactive, unacceptable window on the whole. We looked disorganised and best, skint for the most and negligent at our worst. We must look like a Sunday league outfit operationally, to the professionalism of Premier League club hierarchies.

No matter of positive signings, Hamer, Archer or whoever - for however good they may be - will gloss over how poor the leadership of the club were. Silent for the most past, save for an accountant on twitter, who once told by the manager of the club to be quiet, continued anyway. Shambles.

Bettis' defensiveness here will be personal pride, but they were poor.
I bet if you won £10 million on the lottery you’d moan like fuck that you hadn’t won £20 million. Lighten up Mr negative and look beyond your very biased nose🥴
 
However I do know someone who's opinion I trust and he knows Bettis really well, both professionally and personally.
He assured me that Bettis is a sound, really nice guy and assured me he's also good at his job. Told me we're in good hands.

But 🐍 don’t have hands? :)
 
Yes I understand it much better now - the club did everything perfectly but it's so complicated and deals take so long and there are so many parties involved and we couldn't possibly have done anything differently. It is never the club's fault - us idiots just don't understand football that's all. That's why we started a Premier League season with a midfield of Basham, Osborn and Norwood. We couldn't possibly have done it any differently.

Am I starting to understand it a little better?
Must have listened to a different interview to me🤨
 
A signed contract is exactly that . How can someone ignore a legal contract . Smells of Radio North Korea this BS . Stop hiding behind Hecky 😤
Signing a contract is no use unless you hand it over to the other party. He said that the contract was agreed but not signed
 
I bet if you won £10 million on the lottery you’d moan like fuck that you hadn’t won £20 million. Lighten up Mr negative and look beyond your very biased nose🥴

A long time ago I walked into the tap room of my local at the time ( I was on leave and hadn't been in for a while) and saw the latest pub manager who had been handed the keys and failing miserably to properly give it a go. He had a face like thunder and was being a right arsehole with everybody. I said to my mate 'who's that miserable bell end?'. Mate told me his name and said you wouldn't believe that he won £75k on the lottery last weekend would you? Apparently, Mr Charmless had found out that he had won the lottery the previous Saturday night and thought he was going to get nearly a quarter of million. However he soon learnt to that due to there being a higher number of winners than usual with 5 and bonus ball, he 'only' won £75k. He was gutted. Even when others tried to tell him to cheer up you have just won £75k....you miserable fucker....
Some people on here remind me of him. Glass always half empty.

Last I heard of him (years later) was that his long suffering wife had walked out in him and shacked up with a new younger fella. Good on her I thought.
 
Having just listened to the interview, I feel that Bettis comes across as honest, realistic and pragmatic. Understandably, he sounded a lot more confident on the topics within or close to his brief - transfer window, training ground, injuries issue - than on those that are more remote to him - ie takeover - on which I felt he floundered a bit before giving the correct answer that he isn’t really involved.

On the transfer window, I’m of the opinion that the club has dealt well with the things that it can realistically control. I think we have to recognise that a lot of what happened this summer is not in the direct control of the club. I don’t think this is an excuse on the part of the club - it’s a realistic assessment that is often overlooked on this forum. He also gave answers that were grounded in the reality of running a commercially viable football club.

The cyclical debates about whether we’re better or worse off at the beginning of this season than at the end of last are largely pointless. Things that were outside of our control happened that meant we could not start the season as we finished the last if we are to continue to run the business responsibly. In any event, we will never know what might or might not have happened with different permutations of options. The only question we can reasonably ask is as to whether we played the cards we were dealt as well as we could, and I think that, pretty much, we did.

Well done to Bettis on answering the questions clearly, and on giving an insight on what’s actually involved in the complexity of running of a football club.
 
Having just listened to the interview, I feel that Bettis comes across as honest, realistic and pragmatic. Understandably, he sounded a lot more confident on the topics within or close to his brief - transfer window, training ground, injuries issue - than on those that are more remote to him - ie takeover - on which I felt he floundered a bit before giving the correct answer that he isn’t really involved.

On the transfer window, I’m of the opinion that the club has dealt well with the things that it can realistically control. I think we have to recognise that a lot of what happened this summer is not in the direct control of the club. I don’t think this is an excuse on the part of the club - it’s a realistic assessment that is often overlooked on this forum. He also gave answers that were grounded in the reality of running a commercially viable football club.

The cyclical debates about whether we’re better or worse off at the beginning of this season than at the end of last are largely pointless. Things that were outside of our control happened that meant we could not start the season as we finished the last if we are to continue to run the business responsibly. In any event, we will never know what might or might not have happened with different permutations of options. The only question we can reasonably ask is as to whether we played the cards we were dealt as well as we could, and I think that, pretty much, we did.

Well done to Bettis on answering the questions clearly, and on giving an insight on what’s actually involved in the complexity of running of a football club.

Very much agree.
 
A long time ago I walked into the tap room of my local at the time ( I was on leave and hadn't been in for a while) and saw the latest pub manager who had been handed the keys and failing miserably to properly give it a go. He had a face like thunder and was being a right arsehole with everybody. I said to my mate 'who's that miserable bell end?'. Mate told me his name and said you wouldn't believe that he won £75k on the lottery last weekend would you? Apparently, Mr Charmless had found out that he had won the lottery the previous Saturday night and thought he was going to get nearly a quarter of million. However he soon learnt to that due to there being a higher number of winners than usual with 5 and bonus ball, he 'only' won £75k. He was gutted. Even when others tried to tell him to cheer up you have just won £75k....you miserable fucker....
Some people on here remind me of him. Glass always half empty.

Last I heard of him (years later) was that his long suffering wife had walked out in him and shacked up with a new younger fella. Good on her I thought.
I only took her on cos she said she had £75k .
 

So takeover unlikely before Jan which means potential buyers will wait to see what division we are in as that will impact the purchase price or put them off completely.

Prince banks parachute payments if we do go down or prem money if we stay up (no lose).

Then we challenge for promotion again Prince waits edging bets we get to prem again and price goes up.

And so on and so forth while we go up and come down.
 
Staton asking the difficult questions that less established mediums have been unable to ask. Quality stuff. Should have happened weeks ago.

Edit - SB gets more cockney the more anxious he gets

Yeah I thought the tough questions were asked and he answered them.

Whether folk like the answers is another question. He was never going to say it was a crap window. And in some respects he’s right.

The things I’d have pushed harder on were the embargo (pretty shameful imho), and the contracts. Iliman and Sander didn’t want to sign, which I can readily accept. But what about ever other bugger? 🙄
 
Correct, I don’t believe him, especially the bit about our owner being a benevolent caretaker. This is the guy that tried to sell us to Mauriss and Dozy? Give me a break.

We can draw our own conclusions here. An employee of the Prince can’t be expected to hang him out to dry in an interview.
 
I still confused by his speech. The was the s's are pronounced being one.

Very, erm, odd.
 
It is players agents that are the problem. Any player that is any good has an agent that is looking after him. I'm no expert but I guess that contracts now are so complicated, the deal for Archer being a prime example, if the rumours are true.
The players and their agents have all the power, there is very little a club can do if a player wants to leave.
Years ago most players didn't have the business acumen to get themselves good contracts. The introduction of agents changed all that.
When Brighton signed a 20 yr old Caicedo for £4m, there is no way that they thought they would eventually sell him for over £100m less than 3 years later. Clubs can't afford to give every kid they sign a mega contract, it would lead to most clubs going under, as only 1 player in a thousand, turns out to be a Caicedo.
When we signed Iliman the contract he got was most probably a very good one for the experience he had and the level he was playing at.
So those that say we should put our good youngsters on long term contracts, their agents won't let them sign unless we are paying them silly money, and remember that for every Iliman that comes along, there are 10 or more Jordan Slews.
 
Signing a contract is no use unless you hand it over to the other party. He said that the contract was agreed but not signed

He also said Illiman asked for an extra day or two to think about it, came back and decided he didn't wasn't to sign the contract.

As said previously above, you can't physically force someone to sign a contract.
 
Yeah I thought the tough questions were asked and he answered them.

Whether folk like the answers is another question. He was never going to say it was a crap window. And in some respects he’s right.

The things I’d have pushed harder on were the embargo (pretty shameful imho), and the contracts. Iliman and Sander didn’t want to sign, which I can readily accept. But what about ever other bugger? 🙄

Yes I thought generally he did alright.

The efficacy of our transfer work will ultimately be judged at the end of the season by the league table.
 
Ollie’s emotional investment in Sheffield United is greater than Ndiaye’s in OM. He’s going nowhere any time soon.

That’s apart from the fact that you have no idea about talks between Ollie, his agent & the club.

The wider football world already knows all about Ollie, that hasn’t suddenly happened because he’s gone to Vale.

So you are talking uninformed bollocks, I’m afraid.
Aye
Despite Burslem being the arse end of the arse end of the arse of England that is Stoke - somewhere that CHOOSES Jonathan Gullis to represent their ‘best interests & with limited communication networks - 1 horse drawn per week:, it just may be feasible that SUFC & their contracted employee somehow maintain contact (during a period when transfers are not possible) even if achieved by rudimentary methods - perhaps explains the dearth of (carrier) pigeons of late
 
Think he comes across well tbh, he's in a position where he'll have to say certain things about his employers whether he believes it or not regarding previous takeovers. People love a bloody scapegoat don't they. Plus he's suvvern so he's got an accent, let's deem him extremely untrustworthy 🐍

Forum's are funny places aren't they, you can't always nail the sarcasm you intend, it means you end up with half the crowd taking the piss out of something (🐍) and the other half taking it at face value and boarding the scapegoat wagon without truly knowing anything about anything...
 

Genuine question (for once)
Why is Bettis so (universally?) disparaged, denigrated & despised?

Think I may have just covered that 😄
But also, we're Blades and we just don't like the fact we're being forced to enjoy our most successful period in a good long while... under this bloke Bettis 🐍
 

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