Outgoing? Daniel Jebbison

[Berkshire Blade]

Seen far more from both jebbo and Osula than DCL at the same age to suggest a decent future in the game.

Not to say both will be better but we need to be smart with the both of them. The potential is huge if they click.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Seen far more from both jebbo and Osula than DCL at the same age to suggest a decent future in the game.

Not to say both will be better but we need to be smart with the both of them. The potential is huge if they click.

Nailed it mate

 

[Balham]

The players you listed above (with the possible exception of Coulibaly) apparently have options for extension.

Foderingham: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season
Davies: two year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Amissah: current deal expires 2024, may be an option for 24/25

Ahmedhodzic: four year deal expires 2026
Baldock: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Bogle: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Lowe: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Egan: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Basham: two year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25

Slimane: three year deal expires 2026
Fleck: one year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Osborn: one year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Norwood: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season
Berge: four-and-a-half year deal expires 2024, no option
Coulibaly: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season

Traoré: four year deal expires 2027
Brewster: five year deal expires 2025
Ndiaye: three year deal expires 2024, no option
McBurnie: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season
Jebbison: current deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Osula: current deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25

 

[LBA_Blade]

We need to get him on a new contract asap really. We shouldn’t be letting a player go willingly that we couldn’t afford to sign a replacement of similar or better quality for. And before people say he’s not very good or hasn’t done anything yet I’m going to use Antonie Semenyo as an example he’s scored 3 in 21 at League two level and then 16 in 112 at Championship level and then was sold to Bournemouth last year at the age of 22 for 10 million.

Jebbo has scored 7 in 20 at League one level and 1 in 24 at Championship level and is only 19 using Semenyo as a yard stick if Jebbo has one half decent season in the Championship or above in the next 3 years he’s a 10 million pound plus asset. Given at this time it looks like our max fee might be around 4 million pounds it would seem like madness to me to let an asset that could very easily become worth over 10 million pounds walk out of the door because in a season where he dealt with injury he didn’t score a ton of goals in the Championship at 19.

He has plus scored once in the Premiership against.... Everton which for me is the lazy journalism part, he was (not sure if still is as not usually a stats man) the Premiership's youngest goalscorer on their full debut (i know no trophies or medals for that) but for me, he scores at 17, straight away Everton with Rooney scoring at 16 are bound to be linked to a young goalscorer. If the bid came in its not unreasonable to accept however is he likely to get many more appearances there? He is probably competing with Thomas Cannon who ended up on loan at Preston last season scoring 8 in 20. He has to think about his future but given the potential glass ceiling, a new contract with a loan move isn't the worst idea with option to buy for the club concerned.

 

[Keen Blade]

Brewster jebbo and Osama are not worth 10k a week between um

Especially since Osama is dead

 

[Keen Blade]

Hecky needs to back or sack Jebbo

Believe in him and play him, or he’s not part of his plans and send out on loan or sell.

Jebbo can’t have yet another season as a fridge player. No good for club and certainly no good for the lad.

Are fridge players left in the cold ?

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Is this a typo or a really shit attempt to be funny?

No he's just being honest.

 

[The Crab]

Do you think he'll be 'frozen' out!!

Last fridge player we had was moose. He was never out of the fucker…..

 

[mattbianco1]

Seen far more from both jebbo and Osula than DCL at the same age to suggest a decent future in the game

They've both also had more game time for us than DCL got, Jebbison certainly

 

[NateDogg]

No he's just being honest.

What calling Will Osula 'Osama'?

 

[bakeblade]

Foderingham: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season
Davies: two year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Amissah: current deal expires 2024, may be an option for 24/25

Ahmedhodzic: four year deal expires 2026
Baldock: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Bogle: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Lowe: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Egan: four year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Basham: two year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25

Slimane: three year deal expires 2026
Fleck: one year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Osborn: one year deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Norwood: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season
Berge: four-and-a-half year deal expires 2024, no option
Coulibaly: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season

Traoré: four year deal expires 2027
Brewster: five year deal expires 2025
Ndiaye: three year deal expires 2024, no option
McBurnie: extended deal expires 2024, option taken up this season
Jebbison: current deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25
Osula: current deal expires 2024, possible option for 24/25

Another 2 years watching Brewster arsing about

 

[Berkshire Blade]

They've both also had more game time for us than DCL got, Jebbison certainly

And at a higher level

 

[Davalon]

Seen far more from both jebbo and Osula than DCL at the same age to suggest a decent future in the game.

Not to say both will be better but we need to be smart with the both of them. The potential is huge if they click.

I'd agree with that.

It's their finishing that needs to improve and if it does their potential and value will rocket.

Both young enough to have time to do that imho.

 

[Down the Channels]

It is rare for any player to be clinical in front of goal at the age Osula and Jebbison are.
The best finisher I have seen at Utd ever was Edwards, he was 20-21 before scoring regularly, as was Deano. Even the likes of Thierry Henry were older.

 

[NateDogg]

It is rare for any player to be clinical in front of goal at the age Osula and Jebbison are.
The best finisher I have seen at Utd ever was Edwards, he was 20-21 before scoring regularly, as was Deano. Even the likes of Thierry Henry were older.

Yes but like most things these days people want instant gratification. They're 19 and not like Messi or Ronaldo so might as well get rid.

For one thing they are worth keeping just cos they're both rapid.

 

[jt64]

Yes but like most things these days people want instant gratification. They're 19 and not like Messi or Ronaldo so might as well get rid.

For one thing they are worth keeping just cos they're both rapid.

Yep, you can't learn certain physical attributes, you can develop finishing (one would hope they'd both have the wherewithal to have tapped up Billy's experience while he was still at the club). If anything I'd prefer to have someone score 3 from 8 chances than someone score 2 from 3, he's less clinical but you don't score the shots you don't take

 

[LBA_Blade]

Yep, you can't learn certain physical attributes, you can develop finishing (one would hope they'd both have the wherewithal to have tapped up Billy's experience while he was still at the club). If anything I'd prefer to have someone score 3 from 8 chances than someone score 2 from 3, he's less clinical but you don't score the shots you don't take

You can certainly develop which takes time but nothing can replace a high football IQ goalscorer one with a natural instinct for being right place, right time.

 

[NateDogg]

Yep, you can't learn certain physical attributes, you can develop finishing (one would hope they'd both have the wherewithal to have tapped up Billy's experience while he was still at the club). If anything I'd prefer to have someone score 3 from 8 chances than someone score 2 from 3, he's less clinical but you don't score the shots you don't take

Jebbo scored 7 in 20 or something for Burton. Us bringing him back was a big mistake. Hasselbaink was the perfect person at the time for him to learn from but that's not a bad record for an 18 year old nevertheless.

I've watched a lot of highlights of the youth games that Osula has played in qnd osula has scored some crackers. I know it's different at that level but I don't think he's a crap finisher at all. He just needs to work on his composure and not snap at shots or panic when he's got into a good position.

I think they both need to take some pressure off themselves and just do what they are good at.

 

[secretchief]

Jebbison is easily comparable to DCL at the same age if not clearly better.

Osula arguably has more potential than Jebbo.

They are potentially worth insane amounts of money.

The prince knows this.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Jebbo scored 7 in 20 or something for Burton. Us bringing him back was a big mistake. Hasselbaink was the perfect person at the time for him to learn from but that's not a bad record for an 18 year old nevertheless.

With benefit of hindsight, yes.
But, as always, we didn't have a pot to piss in and had a shit load of injuries to contend with.

Jebbison was needed in case of emergency.
He only didn't get games because Ndiaye / MGW emerged as false 9 options.

Shame though, he'd have benefitted from staying at Burton undoubtedly.
And ideally, Osula should've been recalled and sent elsewhere.

 

[Weasel]

I'd be gutted if either Jebbo or Osula walked away. Neither are the finished product but each such potential. They may not be 'natural' finishers but then not many are. Most players work at that one. Brian Deane being a prime example of someone who wasn't 'natural' at finishing but who was a brilliant player in most other aspects.

Best finisher I've seen, Edwards. But he wasn't a better player than Deane. Best other finisher before him ...probably Doc Pace. Best natural finisher of the lot....Jimmy Greaves.

 

[jt64]

You can certainly develop which takes time but nothing can replace a high football IQ goalscorer one with a natural instinct for being right place, right time.

That's kind of the point I was making? I'd rather, when considering "raw" strikers, the one that is getting into the positions to get more chances. Not entirely sure if you're disagreeing with me or not

 

[HarryHaslam]

Those wanting rid would have sold Ndiaye for a bag of balls when he was 19

 

[pblades]

Have to keep this lad. He has it all and will have a career at the top.

Throws me when people say this, haven’t seen anything sparkling in him at all to suggest owt like this id be over the moon with 10m for him

 

[finlaytheblade]

Jebbison is easily comparable to DCL at the same age if not clearly better.

Osula arguably has more potential than Jebbo.

They are potentially worth insane amounts of money.

The prince knows this.

DCL had loads of natural ability I watched him from a young age Osula is the same very gifted.
It doasnt mean Jebbo cant be better than both,starts at a lower level of ability but hard work,discipline and the willingness to get his head down and listen to the coaches who are driving him on could see him go all the way.
We need to keep em both.
Marshy coming through could be the best of the bunch ! More talent than all three.
Not a given though as lots can go wrong as seen often before.

 

[LBA_Blade]

That's kind of the point I was making? I'd rather, when considering "raw" strikers, the one that is getting into the positions to get more chances. Not entirely sure if you're disagreeing with me or not

Defo not disagreeing. The ones that make it look easy genuinely do because they read the game better. In the Premiership we probably need to be converting at least 1 in 5 chances to be in consideration and that over a course of a season definitely means someone in double digits. Jebbo has the potential and it would be great to see him get the chance but a run of bad games and that would be career over.

 

[Colombia Blade]

I'd offer both of them long term contracts with a decent Championship wage, see if we could get them a season long loan at a Championship club with a clause that they would automatically get a pay rise if they broke into our first team (a higher wage if we're still in the Prem, or a modest increase if we're relegated). That way we either have our long term forward positions sorted, or potentially two players worth 10+ million to sell if needs be

 

[bertieblade]

It is not a problem offering them contracts, the problem is them signing them

 

[jono_t2000]

It is not a problem offering them contracts, the problem is them signing them

Exactly, realistically one of them is likely going to to only be 3rd or even 4th choice striker (depending if Mcburnie stays on)

Would they both likely be willing to sign on knowing that..

 

[Teddy]

I'd offer both of them long term contracts with a decent Championship wage, see if we could get them a season long loan at a Championship club with a clause that they would automatically get a pay rise if they broke into our first team (a higher wage if we're still in the Prem, or a modest increase if we're relegated). That way we either have our long term forward positions sorted, or potentially two players worth 10+ million to sell if needs be

Yeah this.

Despite the excellent potential they both have I don’t see either playing much of a role for us this year. So there’s zero point in letting them run down their contracts (unlike, say, Ndiaye).

Offer them the best contract we are willing to give. Give them a couple of weeks to sign it… if they aren’t willing start touting them out for bids.