Ethan Ampadu

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It amazes me how people can feel this antagonistic to a guy that was 19 when he was loaned out to us, a team that was one of the worst teams in premier league history. How was he supposed to shine in an environment like that?
It's because some people think it's fashionable to expect perfection from players in every minute and believe that players only good enough to play for Sheffield United should never make mistakes.

They're the same people who criticised Billy Sharp every time he missed a chance despite how many goals he scored and yelled at McGoldrick even though he was our best player in pretty much every season he played for us. They're just never happy and they think it makes them look like they know a lot about football to be so critical.

I'm not saying that's anyone who doesn't rate Ampadu, but I bet everyone who's like that doesn't. Like you say, he was 19 in a terrible team and gave us everything he could.
 

Poundshop Eric Dier, I’ll never feel bad slagging off a player who cost us so many goals in the most humiliating season in my 30 odd years following this club.

He’s SHITE!
That's because you think it's cool to slag off everything our players do.

He was 19 and trying his heart out. Dominic Calvert-Lewin did a lot less, in a better team, at a far lower level. He turned out quite well.

Let's not write the lad off after one season.
 
He was one of the worst players and reasons we were in that situation. I lost count of the number of goals he cost us as an individual.

Only player who had a worse season was Brewster and maybe Norwood. Even Lundstram was more the invisible man rather than single handedly costing us a tonne of goals.

Are people whitewashing how horrific he was because he tried hard or something?
Blaming that season on Ampadu is ridiculous. Three other teams conceded more goals than us and only one went down. Newcastle conceded one fewer and finished 12th.

We went down because we scored 20 goals. Every time we went 1 down that was pretty much it.
 
The fact you describe that as a "pathetic excuse for a Wales team" tells us everything you need to know about how you view football.
What are you talking about? That wales team was atrocious compared to the one they had 6 years ago, there’s a reason they got steamrolled by Englands B team in second gear.

Wales have been brilliant in recent times, but that team was utterly finished by that World Cup and as everyone (Welsh or otherwise) said at the time, needed a big reset
 
Blaming that season on Ampadu is ridiculous. Three other teams conceded more goals than us and only one went down. Newcastle conceded one fewer and finished 12th.

We went down because we scored 20 goals. Every time we went 1 down that was pretty much it.
I’m not blaming the entire season on him, he was still one of our worst players.

Did you watch the games? Are you gonna lie and say ampadu didn’t cost us countless goals?
There’s only Norwood that made more mistakes that lead to goals that season.

I said Brewster and Norwood were worse than Ampadu, hence the reason our general play and output in front of goal was horrific.

Ampadu was one of our worst players in a nightmare of a season.
 
What are you talking about? That wales team was atrocious compared to the one they had 6 years ago, there’s a reason they got steamrolled by Englands B team in second gear.

Wales have been brilliant in recent times, but that team was utterly finished by that World Cup and as everyone (Welsh or otherwise) said at the time, needed a big reset
Yes, it was utterly finished and needed a reset. "Pathetic excuse for a team" it was not.
 
I’m not blaming the entire season on him, he was still one of our worst players.

Did you watch the games? Are you gonna lie and say ampadu didn’t cost us countless goals?
There’s only Norwood that made more mistakes that lead to goals that season.

I said Brewster and Norwood were worse than Ampadu, hence the reason our general play and output in front of goal was horrific.

Ampadu was one of our worst players in a nightmare of a season.
You said he was one of the reasons we were in that situation.

The reason we were in that situation is Wilder refused to change tactics, thought he'd made it, spunked £45 million on an inexperienced Berge and even less experienced Brewster instead of buying more established players. He was too arrogant to admit none of it was working. Even so, we were in the Premier League, which is generally above where we should be.

It was not the fault of a 19 year old on loan. I did expect you'd be a Norwood hater though.
 
That's because you think it's cool to slag off everything our players do.

He was 19 and trying his heart out. Dominic Calvert-Lewin did a lot less, in a better team, at a far lower level. He turned out quite well.

Let's not write the lad off after one season.
You deserve a 🏅 for never having a negative opinion on a player then 👍

Ampadu has had 3 awful seasons including 3 relegations. He's also never nailed down a position because of his poor qualities.

From that awful PL 2nd season I don't want no shite bad memories coming back.

Burke, Bryan and Lundstram to return??
 
You said he was one of the reasons we were in that situation.

The reason we were in that situation is Wilder refused to change tactics, thought he'd made it, spunked £45 million on an inexperienced Berge and even less experienced Brewster instead of buying more established players. He was too arrogant to admit none of it was working. Even so, we were in the Premier League, which is generally above where we should be.

It was not the fault of a 19 year old on loan. I did expect you'd be a Norwood hater though.
Norwood has been fantastic for us before and after that season. There is no debate about how much of a nightmare he had in the relegation season
 
ANY player could have been chosen as player of the season in Wilder’s promotion side.
EVERY player in the team then had a poor season in the Covid relegation year - including Ampadu.

That team was built upon being defensively excellent, with lots of clean sheets, and getting a draw or winning by a single goal in low-scoring games to pick up points. Once JOC was sidelined, the defence (with Ampadu in it) fell to pieces, and we collapsed. We got to the stage where every corner felt like an imminent goal for the opposition. It wasn’t entirely, mostly, or even largely his fault; however, some of the others had done better before he was there (Egan, Basham, Baldock …), and some have done better since (Ramsdale). In that season no-one came out with a glowing report, and they were all part of the disappointing result - including the manager. However, I can’t see why anyone would look back at such a poorly performing defensive line-up and think “Hmm, maybe we should try that again …”
 
ANY player could have been chosen as player of the season in Wilder’s promotion side.
EVERY player in the team then had a poor season in the Covid relegation year - including Ampadu.

That team was built upon being defensively excellent, with lots of clean sheets, and getting a draw or winning by a single goal in low-scoring games to pick up points. Once JOC was sidelined, the defence (with Ampadu in it) fell to pieces, and we collapsed. We got to the stage where every corner felt like an imminent goal for the opposition. It wasn’t entirely, mostly, or even largely his fault; however, some of the others had done better before he was there (Egan, Basham, Baldock …), and some have done better since (Ramsdale). In that season no-one came out with a glowing report, and they were all part of the disappointing result - including the manager. However, I can’t see why anyone would look back at such a poorly performing defensive line-up and think “Hmm, maybe we should try that again …”
Bang on. I've never known a poor loan player in a shite side ever wanted by fans before.

Is it because he's contracted to Chelsea? (Bit like the obsession with Blackman)

Hes an international in a shite Welsh team full of lower league players?

Been on loan at a shite Serie A team that got relegated again?

Can "play" a few positions because he's rubbish to stick to one position?
 
Bang on. I've never known a poor loan player in a shite side ever wanted by fans before.

Is it because he's contracted to Chelsea? (Bit like the obsession with Blackman)

Hes an international in a shite Welsh team full of lower league players?

Been on loan at a shite Serie A team that got relegated again?

Can "play" a few positions because he's rubbish to stick to one position?

Because some people can understand that a player at 19 is still developing, and shouldn't carry the can for a relegation in sides that were always going to struggle anyway.

For his age he's got a lot of experience, played in the premier league, Bundesliga and Serie A, and two international tournaments.
 
Because some people can understand that a player at 19 is still developing, and shouldn't carry the can for a relegation in sides that were always going to struggle anyway.

For his age he's got a lot of experience, played in the premier league, Bundesliga and Serie A, and two international tournaments.
KBN I hope he has a successful career and sticks 2 fingers up to fans like me, (ill eat humble pie) but I just don't see the attraction of past players who didn't impress at the time contributing to one of the worst seasons ever.
 
KBN I hope he has a successful career and sticks 2 fingers up to fans like me, (ill eat humble pie) but I just don't see the attraction of past players who didn't impress at the time contributing to one of the worst seasons ever.


And if he had been in his mid 20's when he didn't impress, I would agree with you.
 

I wouldn't write Ampadu off because of his season with us, he was young player in a mess of a team. But he certainly needs to have improved a lot since then and if I remember Heckingbottom didn't pick him, in the Prem. He would also fill the same brief as Conor Coady and I know which one I would trust more in terms of temperament
 
Why are there multiple threads running on Ampadu - a player that endured a poor and very disappointing season on loan with Utd (and at other clubs since) and one that won't be anywhere near the top of Utd's priority list (if he's on it at all)?
 
My view is that he is an average footballer that could play as a defensive midfielder than a centre back. His reading of the game at centre back and his lack of physicality are not what you need in a centre back.

Yes he has played in the Premier league etc. But so have others who are now in League 1 and League 2 plus a few more in the conference. Stats are only of benefit when they are coupled with watching the player live.
 
There’s an awful lot of negativity on the forums at the moment, mainly due to the uncertainties around our approach to transfers this season and the stalling of the sale of the club.
To make the negative posts easier to read, especially the ones that come across as statements of fact, I like to imagine they are being said in the voice of Roy Kent from Ted Lasso. I throw in a few more “fucks” for good measure too.
 
Sorry FB but stats to me a useless. Exactly how much precedence does a Badged Up Coach place on stats?
Pass Accuracy 90% means nothing if 89% where Declan Rice 3 yard passes.
Dribbling, does a 15 yard dribble out of defence unopposed count?
I bet even our Wesley's stats make him look like an half decent goalkeeper?.
Interceptions, does a shite pass from the opposition team count as his Interception?
All ways wondered if coaches really pay much attention to stats, or is just something TV pundits use to make them sound as if they know what they're on about. Interested to know your professional opinion on stats.
The only stat that counts is the goal stats at the end of the match ultimately. We aren't American and can tell you the crazy stats they produce for no apparent reason. Totally agreed its all about context, ultimately I would be world class as 100% pass accuracy as a kid when I used to smash the ball off the garage wall.
 
That's their promotion hopes down swanny.
There's more chance of Jimmy Saville riding shergar through city Square than that shower getting promoted. They still haven't completed binning off all their useless foreign players. They need a whole new team. If they pay that for Ampadu, then League 1 awaits! Good times!
 

I didn't mind Ampadu to be honest. He lacked aggression for a centre back/defensive midfield but he did have a pass in him
 

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