Micky Adams

[Wards]

Personally I felt he was largely inept but certainly arrived at a poor time.

The squad was good enough but he signed some really poor players and seemingly did little to motivate those that were here already. McCabe was right to get shut of him and I heard he was looking for a way out after about a week of being here. I bare no malice towards him as we were well on the downward spiral already but he really should've performed better than he did doin those 20 odd games.

 

[Robbie]

Strange that a man who shouldn't have been near the club took us to an 8th place finish the season after the play off final defeat.

With the 3rd highest (if I recall correctly) wage bill in the league. Also with some of the most awful football I've seen 'played' by the Blades.

RE Adams, his hands were tied, but he should still have done better with what he had at his disposal.
We were 2 points clear (not a very good margin granted) off the relegation zone, and he managed to relegate us by 7 points. He was allowed the luxury to bring in players, but it just didn't work for him.
He fell out with players (whether rightly or wrongly) who could have helped out towards our plight.

 

[secretchief]

In terms of shipping out talented players, evacuating all motivation from the team and bringing in relics and reserves from other clubs he was in a league of his own.

Every boneheaded transfer was so inexplicable that it all had the tantalising hint of a masterplan behind it, for a short while.

 

[secretchief]

In terms of shipping out talented players, evacuating all motivation from the team and bringing in relics and reserves from other clubs he was in a league of his own.

Every boneheaded transfer was so inexplicable that it all had the tantalising hint of a masterplan behind it, for a short while.

 

[Darren]

With the 3rd highest (if I recall correctly) wage bill in the league. Also with some of the most awful football I've seen 'played' by the Blades.

RE Adams, his hands were tied, but he should still have done better with what he had at his disposal.
We were 2 points clear (not a very good margin granted) off the relegation zone, and he managed to relegate us by 7 points. He was allowed the luxury to bring in players, but it just didn't work for him.
He fell out with players (whether rightly or wrongly) who could have helped out towards our plight.

What wouldn't we give now to be playing awful football and challenging for the play offs in the 2nd tier....

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Refusing to train ,even to attend training, feigning injury to skive in the treatment room ,total disregard for Adams. Obviously i wont reveal my source but they have no reason to tell untruths.

Is it ok if I have a crack at naming your source?

I don't doubt it's true but "refusing to train or even attend training" are sackable offences.
Adams would have been well within his rights to boot them out of the club and save on their wages.
Or at very least fine them heavily and make an example of them.
If he allowed them ("and others") to get away with it, no wonder the players didn't respect or play well for him.

 

[Micalijo]

Hope he gets a decent reception on Saturday ,he is a Blade and took on his dream job when probably he shouldnt ,which one of us wouldnt ?. He was greatly undermined by certain players who cared fuck all about Sheffield United and made him look a twat especially Ward and Yeates ,whos attitude and behaviour was disgusting .They and others were the cancer in the club and very few managers could have changed things.

This is just the ultimate in clapper talk - a rare and extreme example of why SUFC is dying. Really is laughable. We were poor but not in bottom 3 when he turned up - but he's a Blade and he tried really, really hard.

No mention of his pathetic, truly awful signings, his hoof it large style, his complete and utter ineptitude and incompetence. Dave Bassett!!

I sincerely hope Alehouse gets the reception he deserves on Saturday.

 

[Micalijo]

Is it ok if I have a crack at naming your source?

I don't doubt it's true but "refusing to train or even attend training" are sackable offences.
Adams would have been well within his rights to boot them out of the club and save on their wages.
Or at very least fine them heavily and make an example of them.
If he allowed them ("and others") to get away with it, no wonder the players didn't respect or play well for him.

His source is his mate down the boozer.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

His source is his mate down the boozer.

No, it isn't.

 

[Micalijo]

Who is it then? I do not believe that they did not turn up for training.

 

[Darren]

Who is it then? I do not believe that they did not turn up for training.

I am with Sothall on this, whether players did or didn't turn up for training is fundamentally irrelevant. If they didn't turn up for training and Adams didn't bring the full force of his disciplinary powers down on them, then that just shows what a crap manager he was.

Fail to turn up for training once (without good reason) and its a hefty fine. Do it twice and you're sacked for gross misconduct and the reason why publicised. That's what any decent manager would do.

 

[Micalijo]

I am with Sothall on this, whether players did or didn't turn up for training is fundamentally irrelevant. If they didn't turn up for training and Adams didn't bring the full force of his disciplinary powers down on them, then that just shows what a crap manager he was.

Fail to turn up for training once (without good reason) and its a hefty fine. Do it twice and you're sacked for gross misconduct and the reason why publicised. That's what any decent manager would do.

Is it up to the manager alone in these situations?

I would have thought the top brass would have taken an interest? Not sure.

 

[Darren]

Is it up to the manager alone in these situations?

I would have thought the top brass would have taken an interest? Not sure.

I think the top brass have to leave well alone. Keegan once got a massive pay out from Newcastle when he resigned because the Board interfered with his signings and he took them to a Tribunal claiming constructive dismissal and won.

 

[Micalijo]

I think the top brass have to leave well alone. Keegan once got a massive pay out from Newcastle when he resigned because the Board interfered with his signings and he took them to a Tribunal claiming constructive dismissal and won.

I appreciate that, but surely the top brass are allowed some say in discipline (and would want to have a say) if an employee is blatantly breaking his side of the contract they pay him to honour? Maybe, they were fined.

 

[Darren]

I appreciate that, but surely the top brass are allowed some say in discipline (and would want to have a say) if an employee is blatantly breaking his side of the contract they pay him to honour? Maybe, they were fined.

I think if you employ a manager to manage staff and then start interfering on a day to day basis with the manager- staff relationship, the manager would be well within his rights to claim constructive dismissal. If you are not happy with the way the manager deals with the staff, your remedy is to sack the manager. As happened in this case.

 

[Selly]

Fail to turn up for training once (without good reason) and its a hefty fine. Do it twice and you're sacked for gross misconduct and the reason why publicised. That's what any decent manager would do.

Unless you are a talented footballer who could be sold on the Transfer market. (see Tevez vs Mancini)

 

[Darren]

Unless you are a talented footballer who could be sold on the Transfer market. (see Tevez vs Mancini)

I hardly think that United 2010-11 vintage had many "talented footballers who could be sold on the transfer market "

You do have a valid point though, even though we had no-one in the Tevez class, we obviously had some players with a market value and if any of those players were not turning up for training what to do? My solution would be to sack them and, if they then do go off and sign for another team, sue them for the loss we suffered by losing their transfer fee (or at least threaten them that that is what we will do if they carry on taking the piss).

 

[Grecian2000]

No, he was sacked because the football was fucking awful. Effective, but terrible to watch.

Oooh so close. You were only an "Effective, but" away from a major LIKE there oh vile one.

 

[sitwell]

His source is his mate down the boozer.

Ill take a ban or even exclusion Foxy and Linz ,but while ever wednesday sypathising troll cunts like this frequent this board it is just the same as radio pig and the stir. Ive had enough bye.

 

[sitwell]

His source is his mate down the boozer.

Bore off you fucking wanker ,I havent met you and i really hope for your sake I dont. Just fucking do one you sad prick.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Who is it then? I do not believe that they did not turn up for training.

I heard that players who were injured used to stay away from training, while Adams demanded they should meet at Shirecliffe every day. This caused a conflict.

 

[Ollessendro]

I cannot believe some of the fans pathetic reactions on here. Ale house Micky, worst manager in the history of SUFC, not to get boo-ed. Oh he's a Blade, he's oreit. No, he's fucking not oreit. He was a spectacularly shit manager and a truly awful time for the club. He did not come into a sinking ship. We were 5th from bottom and 2 points clear from safety when he took over. He had a January transfer window to work with and signed several players. What then took place was the most pathetic and inept management of SUFC ever. Managing to win 4 games out of 25. Some of the performances were truly pathetic. It was obvious we were going down in February, but we died a slow and horrible death. 10 games before we could muster up a defeat. From looking like we were certainties to stay up we became the laughing stock of the league. A late revival makes his record look better than it was. Only 2 wins in 20 games took us from flirting with relegation tro rock bottom. Only Scunthorpe's goal difference spared us from finishing bottom.

Adams should be boo-ed right out of Bramall Lane. The ale house, quick fix, inept pathetic dinonsaur should take his hoof merchants down to Hyde Park and play there. I cringe when I think of how awful we were under that useless twats reign. I will be boo-ing him tomorrow. And if I bump in to him tomorrow (I will be waiting in the car park) I'll demand £300 in cash from him. That is the money for tickets and travel to Ipswich, Portsmouth, Palace and QPR. In all those games we didn't even bother turning up, conceding 8 goals and scoring none and playing truly terrible football.

So muckers, forgett abart all this it'll be reit shite, boo, hiss, snear, shout and scream that stain of Sheffield on Sat-di!!!!?

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

This is just the ultimate in clapper talk - a rare and extreme example of why SUFC is dying. Really is laughable. We were poor but not in bottom 3 when he turned up - but he's a Blade and he tried really, really hard.
No mention of his pathetic, truly awful signings, his hoof it large style, his complete and utter ineptitude and incompetence. Dave Bassett!!
I sincerely hope Alehouse gets the reception he deserves on Saturday.

You're right Mic


let's hang draw and quarter him

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

I cannot believe some of the fans pathetic reactions on here. Ale house Micky, worst manager in the history of SUFC, not to get boo-ed. Oh he's a Blade, he's oreit. No, he's fucking not oreit. He was a spectacularly shit manager and a truly awful time for the club. He did not come into a sinking ship. We were 5th from bottom and 2 points clear from safety when he took over. He had a January transfer window to work with and signed several players. What then took place was the most pathetic and inept management of SUFC ever. Managing to win 4 games out of 25. Some of the performances were truly pathetic. It was obvious we were going down in February, but we died a slow and horrible death. 10 games before we could muster up a defeat. From looking like we were certainties to stay up we became the laughing stock of the league. A late revival makes his record look better than it was. Only 2 wins in 20 games took us from flirting with relegation tro rock bottom. Only Scunthorpe's goal difference spared us from finishing bottom.

Adams should be boo-ed right out of Bramall Lane. The ale house, quick fix, inept pathetic dinonsaur should take his hoof merchants down to Hyde Park and play there. I cringe when I think of how awful we were under that useless twats reign. I will be boo-ing him tomorrow. And if I bump in to him tomorrow (I will be waiting in the car park) I'll demand £300 in cash from him. That is the money for tickets and travel to Ipswich, Portsmouth, Palace and QPR. In all those games we didn't even bother turning up, conceding 8 goals and scoring none and playing truly terrible football.

So muckers, forgett abart all this it'll be reit shite, boo, hiss, snear, shout and scream that stain of Sheffield on Sat-di!!!!?

See my post above...

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

And while we're at it we can set a reyt good example ter t'kids

 

[Putney Blade]

I cannot believe some of the fans pathetic reactions on here. Ale house Micky, worst manager in the history of SUFC, not to get boo-ed. Oh he's a Blade, he's oreit. No, he's fucking not oreit. He was a spectacularly shit manager and a truly awful time for the club. He did not come into a sinking ship. We were 5th from bottom and 2 points clear from safety when he took over. He had a January transfer window to work with and signed several players. What then took place was the most pathetic and inept management of SUFC ever. Managing to win 4 games out of 25. Some of the performances were truly pathetic. It was obvious we were going down in February, but we died a slow and horrible death. 10 games before we could muster up a defeat. From looking like we were certainties to stay up we became the laughing stock of the league. A late revival makes his record look better than it was. Only 2 wins in 20 games took us from flirting with relegation tro rock bottom. Only Scunthorpe's goal difference spared us from finishing bottom.

Adams should be boo-ed right out of Bramall Lane. The ale house, quick fix, inept pathetic dinonsaur should take his hoof merchants down to Hyde Park and play there. I cringe when I think of how awful we were under that useless twats reign. I will be boo-ing him tomorrow. And if I bump in to him tomorrow (I will be waiting in the car park) I'll demand £300 in cash from him. That is the money for tickets and travel to Ipswich, Portsmouth, Palace and QPR. In all those games we didn't even bother turning up, conceding 8 goals and scoring none and playing truly terrible football.

So muckers, forgett abart all this it'll be reit shite, boo, hiss, snear, shout and scream that stain of Sheffield on Sat-di!!!!?

Excellent reply and how true.

 

[JohnDenver]

He did not come into a sinking ship. We were 5th from bottom and 2 points clear from safety when he took over.

 

[Deadbat]

My thoughts are such that I dont think he will get any kind of reception. Yes he is a Blade but so I am. I don;t get a round of applause when I ascend the steps to my seat!

He seems an affable kind of bloke and I am sure he did his best but he was appaling whilst our manager. Struggling to get all this we were unlucky, he was undermined by players etc. The truth is McCabe should probably have let Blackwell go after Burnley. He let him hang on another season of pretty poor football but still top half stuff and allowed him to fritter away daft money on loan after loan. The decision to keep him into the next season was even dafter but then unsure why he sacked him after 3 games. As others have said despite Blackwell's time having come (had come a while before as stated above) I doubt we would have gone down if he had stayed. We would have been poor and maybe bottom half but relegation? Doubt it.

Hard saying it now after what happened just over a year ago but Speed did not exactly help matters when he came in and probably tried to change too much ,too soon (style etc) and I felt was really struggling as the number one/manager and I actually think it was a step too soon and needed to manager in the lowe leagues first and have a proper apprenticeship. He may have been dismissed if he had not got the Wales job.

The Adams move I said at the time was a poor decision (I cried out for O' Driscoll and felt he would have come). He was on his way down the divisions and had been unsuccesful at his recent jobs despite some early success in his career. It did seem his methods were a little old fashioned. The press conference when he and Cork came in did not inspire me and it all seemed a bit pub Football in their comments.

The signings he made and the moves he made to get rid of any talent we had all marked him down for me as for whatever reason Britton, Bartley, Ward etc moved on and were replaced with utter dross (Bent, Mattock, Collins, Doyle etc). His actual record in results is one of the worst in any United managers of all time. We went from being in the verge of the relegation places to being relegated with games to spare and I recall the 3 straight defeats to Scunny, Preston and Palace (all in bottom 5) in one week as a pathetic United side basically looked like they did not care let alone show any ability. Don't get the point about Yeates and Ward? Adams has been around a long time and if he could not assert authority on players who allegedly did not train then he needed to discipline them and deal with them. Why would they suddenly not train/want to know with him but would with previous managers? If they did this their behaviour was appaling but the manager is paid to manage and to say he has no choice or was faced with little choice is wrong. It is up to him to manage.

Make no mistake it was dire under Adams. He failed badly and for him to say he could have got us back up if given a chance this week is laugable. Any manager would have been sacked for his record and his results that sent us into the third tier. Everything he did went wrong and it was on the whole hopeless. I won't applaud him nor will I boo him. He is just another figure in a long line of incompetents who this 'great' (thats a bit of a laugh!) football club have been forced to ensure. The fact he is a Blade maybe sees him get less criticism but make no mistake if he had not been a Blade many fans would have been hammered and booed to the hilt when he returned this week (imagine if Robson returned?).


The ultimate buck for all the mess from those couple of season rests with one man and our chairman in his heart of hearts must know that his decisions to hire (and sanction transfers etc) the likes of Robson (and Terry Robinson), keep Blackwell so long (did goood job to steady ship but would never have been needed if he not appointed Robson), hire Speed/Adams were major factors in where we are now. It was McCabe who appointed Adams (and went for the cheap option once again) when in my opinion there were quite a few better candidates at the time. Easy with hindsight I suppose.

 

[Deleted member 875]

Nyron Nosworthy........

 

[raul]

Everytime I either heard his voice or saw his face I always felt he was about to burst into tears. Now I know why.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

post: 457476, member: 875"]Nyron Nosworthy........

Possibly the least funny bit of that entire relegation season was Blackwell announcing proudly that we'd signed him back for a full year with no release clause....