Still that's a £17500 deposit plus your fees so you're probably talking almost £20k in the bank to buy a £50k flat...I very much doubt those with £20k in the bank would want to buy a £50k flat.
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Still that's a £17500 deposit plus your fees so you're probably talking almost £20k in the bank to buy a £50k flat...I very much doubt those with £20k in the bank would want to buy a £50k flat.
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In a time when some clubs are looking to purchase houses around existing stadiums in order to increase capacity we're looking build houses closer to our ground than they already are! Surely this land would be better used as a hand car wash, there aren't nearly enough of those around 
JohnDenver
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Surely this land would be better used as a hand car wash, there aren't nearly enough of those around
Which would also solve the Monty / Cress unemployment issue. Synergy!
Monty would scamper around with a sponge for 10 minutes, making a right bloody mess while Cressy worked at a snails pace trapping his head, shoulder and wrist in the door, boot and bonnet. Car crash car wash.
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Scuse my ignorance here.
We had the hotel and business centre, which have now been transfered out of the football club. Where does the revenue generated from these go to now? I take it that it's the PLC?
Is this current proposal for student accomodation etc also under the PLC banner?
If so, how would the FC benefit? I know the PLC owns the FC, but that doesn't guarantee anything regards any returns on the new development benefitting the actual FC, regardless of the fact it will be built on the FC's land
We had the hotel and business centre, which have now been transfered out of the football club. Where does the revenue generated from these go to now? I take it that it's the PLC?
Is this current proposal for student accomodation etc also under the PLC banner?
If so, how would the FC benefit? I know the PLC owns the FC, but that doesn't guarantee anything regards any returns on the new development benefitting the actual FC, regardless of the fact it will be built on the FC's land
madeinsheffield
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I was told by the then property manager that offices brought in far more revenue than occupied seats, which is fair enough when the club benefits. However building on the land to secure income for another company is scandalous, for a football club, its feeling worse than selling the players we shouldn't have done recently.
I am seriously worried the whole lot is going to implode and we'll end up with nothing. I genuinely thought the club was being protected by the dividing the ground from the club, if the worst happens at least we were going to know BDTBL would be safe from the vultures who arrive after administration. I'm not so sure now
I am seriously worried the whole lot is going to implode and we'll end up with nothing. I genuinely thought the club was being protected by the dividing the ground from the club, if the worst happens at least we were going to know BDTBL would be safe from the vultures who arrive after administration. I'm not so sure now
Bladesman
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Profits on this little venture will be minimal and as nice as they look they seem completely irrelevant to the football side of the club. If any money is made from it that will go to McCabe providing anyone actually buys one.
In the end they will more than likely end up being occupied by students with minimal return on investment.
Pedro Verde
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Where do you need a 35% deposit to buy a property that is only a 65% mortgage financial institutions are offering between 80% and 95% mortgages. If 65% mortgages were the norm the housing market would absolutely dead
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These peripheral developments do affect the 'stadium', the lack of a coherent masterplan means that piecemeal buildings get in the way of proposals. Did anyone else notice how the presence of the hotel prevented a complete new tier of seats on atop the South Stand in the 'World Cup Bid' project? This proposal is a debased, ungenerous student hall of residence and potentially in the way if any serious improvement of the ground is ever contemplated. Looks like cheapskate architects came up with a cheapskate scheme, daft time to build anyway, isn't it? £9K fees per annum going to attract more kids to Hallam then?
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One bedroom flats are usually 45 sqm minimum, these are 30 square metres or 28 depending on the drawing. I cannot see them being sold individually as they would be completely depressing to live in, I couldn't even see a bed on the drawing though you would have thought that they would have thought of that, well I say that.......?
This may be a rather daft comment, but I use the John Street turnstiles to get into the Kop, I won't have to trapse to Cherry Street to get in will I?
Will this mean we get facilities that have caught up with the rest of the ground though?
Will this mean we get facilities that have caught up with the rest of the ground though?
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This may be a rather daft comment, but I use the John Street turnstiles to get into the Kop, I won't have to trapse to Cherry Street to get in will I?
Will this mean we get facilities that have caught up with the rest of the ground though?
I wouldn't worry about getting in............... getting out may be a bigger hassle replacing the present mass of steps down to John st with a single stairway to Shoreham st seems to me a sure way to slow down evacuation time ........... kop capacity reduction ??? getting out of the centre of the kop can take 10 mins at present if it gets any slower to get out you have to ask is it safe.
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And it seems to me you didn't look at the drawings properly. The "single stairway" is five lanes wide, straight out the back, taking the shortest route out onto Shoreham Street. The current set up is a dog's dinner, with the longest possible route, forming a bottleneck in the middle. That's why it takes ten minutes to get out. Because it's badly designed. If it's been designed at all.
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Maybe the current set up has not ever been designed and as you put it a dogs dinner but it is very safe once you reach the steps taking you to John st they open out more and more so there is never any crush on the steps. Looking at the plans we see a new flight of steps down to Shoreham st which clearly in this day and age will have been designed, is it just me being picky or should we be having exit ramps rather than steps coming out of football grounds ? It only takes one person to fall and you could be looking at another Ibrox disaster.
TarquinDelouche
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Maybe. But given the lack of space surrounding many grounds, I'm not sure it's possible on the majority of grounds. Most modern grounds have the exits in the middle of the stand, with the stairwells and everything inside, under the seating areas... which lead me to wonder... does anybody know what is under the kop stand? I've never really thought about it.
For the record, if I were in charge there would be stairways PLUS slides and three zip lines across the road to Manfryday's.
Yes there are 10% mortgages available but not for new build appartments.... They are seen as compltely toxic by mortgage providers so the general loan to "value" rate is much higher for new build appartments as on average new build appartments lost 30%-50% in value in the downturn.
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Surely they will be marketed as buy to let?
super_pig
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will it say in big letters 'brought to you by Stephen Quinn.. formerly of this parish' on it??
and more worryingly..
how long before we get flats on the pitch.. just play round them lads
and more worryingly..
how long before we get flats on the pitch.. just play round them lads
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Go on then, enlighten us as to how that would be a good thing?
You're seriously obsessed
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The property market is fooked reight now ....has the situation been 'engineered' ?
Small/medium sized building companies cannot secure funds to build on speculation ........... build cost's /fee's have hardly moved......the end price has took a reight 'belt' .....me I'm thinking its not worth the risk reight now and delaying building.
I'm fookin glad i bought nowt just before the shit hit the fan.
(mind yer our gerts mother has money in a student rental property company and the average return over the last 10 years has been 15%)
Small/medium sized building companies cannot secure funds to build on speculation ........... build cost's /fee's have hardly moved......the end price has took a reight 'belt' .....me I'm thinking its not worth the risk reight now and delaying building.
I'm fookin glad i bought nowt just before the shit hit the fan.
(mind yer our gerts mother has money in a student rental property company and the average return over the last 10 years has been 15%)
SwissBlade
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Still not clear on this. Our owner loses money and has damaged testicles and that's good?Micalijo said: ↑
Why is that your concern? SUFC Ltd would not benefit at all
I hope McCabe sells none and loses more money.
McCabe being kicked in the knackers would be a good thing ......... sounds similar
Loan to values with most lenders are 75% for new build flats. Halifax & Leeds will lend 80% I believe. Hinckley & Rugby will lend 90% I'm told.
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In further BDTBL development news, there’s a pre-app just been submitted in for a similar scheme for the Shoreham Street/Cherry Street corner, for approx 30 – 35 units. It looks like it will utilise that bit of a car park - where the Sky camera vans usually park - as a little central courtyard area. It does look nice from the drawings and I would expect that this will, if it gets approval and subsequently gets built, lay waste to any further plans of another business centre at that corner. As I say, it’s only a pre-app at the minute but I would expect the full application to be submitted shortly. I’ll stick a link up once it’s pending and on the website. Make of all this what you will.
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Nobody has questioned whether any of this is linked to the transferral of the freehold?
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The Kop stand is just an artificial mound of earth. Hence the name Spion Kop (afrikaans) Therefore it hasn't particularly been designed at all, just dumped there. The Hotel should have been built at the corner of Cherry Street and Bramall Lane. it gets in the way where it is, the location being a hangover from when there were to be hotel rooms with a direct view of the pitch. That idea was scuppered by the building regs.
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I can see the +ves in this, how can I apply to administer a Woodward type Volley ........
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1st job you need the old style 1950's football boots that have the consistency of a steel toe capped work boot
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i think most of us didn't need to mate.. we took it as a given
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