Outgoing? SANDER BERGE ON WAY OUT ?

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Be pawng him to forest if we can and see if we can get obrien and Emmanuel Dennis in some form. There is nobody at Brighton or Fulham I want.

Brentford and lewis potter
Newcastle and the lad elliott but not much experience of football as yet.

Problem with selling berge and then getting a deal elsewhere is there are too many moving parts. Hecky needs to insist someone is part of the deal as we have read this book before
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
Teams will basically man mark Norwood and the wingbacks and all creativity will be gone.

We'll potentially be in situation whereby the creativity reduces, the squad looks weaker, there'll be a downturn in form and the takeover will be wobbling. Brill.
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why haven't teams been doing that in the many matches Berger was not present
 
You'd think he'd have learnt from his last move where he signed in January for a team who were massively overperforming in terms of league position. If he goes to Fulham he'll be back in the Championship in 2 or 3 years tops.
 
derekacorah said:
You'd think he'd have learnt from his last move where he signed in January for a team who were massively overperforming in terms of league position. If he goes to Fulham he'll be back in the Championship in 2 or 3 years tops.
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Very true in a footballing sense.

But a Fulham move will allow him to spend a few years partying in London on presumably a large salary. More than a little tempting I would think.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
Very true in a footballing sense.

But a Fulham move will allow him to spend a few years partying in London on presumably a large salary. More than a little tempting I would think.
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Young lad with the chance to move to London and double his money, I don't blame him. But it's hardly the Champions League move he was touted for by many.
 
Fulham is a potentially great move for him.

Provided Utd bring in a couple and pay off the embargo monies and hold a bit more back then I don't get all this 'the end is nigh' being spouted by some on here. We could even potentially be stronger as a squad in a couple of days. Let's see how it plays out first before we all go sobbing into our Mum's aprons.
 
I'm indifferent about Sander going to be honest. He's a bit too much a of a "luxury" player for us int championship, but i do enjoy seeing him glide past defenders etc. It would be good if he goes to pay the bailiffs off then get someone who can stick bonce on a cross.
 
derekacorah said:
Young lad with the chance to move to London and double his money, I don't blame him. But it's hardly the Champions League move he was touted for by many.
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Unless he moves to someone like a Belgium club then he isn't good enough to get into a champions league level club. Certainly not an English club trying to get in the CL.

He's a good young PL level player with potential but who is very inconsistent. That's where he is at this moment in time.
 

HVR said:
It might be a 'shit show' at the moment, but from what certain posters have said, we've been short of money since August/September - with the Prince delaying payments and moving cash around.
That has enabled us to keep Berge until January and get 13 points clear of 3rd place and on the brink of promotion.
We could have sold him at the start of the season, so at least we've been able to stretch the finances and keep him a little bit longer and get into 2nd.
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That's a nice spin on it mate
 
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derekacorah said:
Young lad with the chance to move to London and double his money, I don't blame him. But it's hardly the Champions League move he was touted for by many.
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A lot of people very vocally claimed he wasn’t good enough to get into the premier league, TBF if true several teams may disagree

now over next several years we will see if he can take that further step, but it won’t be with us
 
nopigfansintown said:
Wilson - We don't play with wingers

Onomah - never been that impressed.

Cairney - Not the most mobile, ageing with a series of bad injuries.

All likely to be on really good money too.
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I'm not very positive on our board right now, so I have big reservations as to whether they'd bring anybody in to help the manager.

However, if we lost Berge and Fulham were open to letting Wilson come this way then it's a deal I'd look at. If we could get O'Brien too that would be fantastic.

If then play something along the lines of:

.........................Foderingham
.............Anel...........Egan.......Clark
.....Bogle.......................................Lowe
..................Norwood.......O'Brien
............Wilson.........................Ndiaye
............................McBurnie

Subs: Davies, Baldock, Stevens, Doyle, McAtee, Sharp, Jebbison.

Harry Wilson is productive at this level and I think he could work well with a bit of freedom in that sort of system.
Lewis O'Brien would be a great replacement for Fleck.

We will miss Berge's line breaking ability, it's very rare to have a player that can do that in this league, but I don't think the above XI looks much weaker than before.

Pie in the sky though.
 
HVR said:
It might be a 'shit show' at the moment, but from what certain posters have said, we've been short of money since August/September - with the Prince delaying payments and moving cash around.
That has enabled us to keep Berge until January and get 13 points clear of 3rd place and on the brink of promotion.
We could have sold him at the start of the season, so at least we've been able to stretch the finances and keep him a little bit longer and get into 2nd.
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Well put. I'd also add, as others have said he's a bit of a luxury player and I don't think he's a good fit for us if we go up. If we sell him now, that's what we should be doing, using our assets to keep the club solvent and using some of the money to reinvest in players who can play the type of football we will need to play if we go up.
 
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Brownieblade said:
A lot of people very vocally claimed he wasn’t good enough to get into the premier league, TBF if true several teams may disagree

now over next several years we will see if he can take that further step, but it won’t be with us
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Hopefully, we will see when we play against him next season.
 
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scouseblade said:
Its all depressing. Why do I feel this could be start of the end. Slowly watching Middlesbrough claw back those 12 points. Like creeping death.
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Because we're Blades and we always assume the worst (as do most football supporters in all honesty).

The thing is, you've got to look at the table, look at our our continuing run of wins (without an on form Sander) and realise that all is not lost.
 
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Makes me laugh how our fans panic when nothing has actually changed.
I think back to the

"we won't be buying Brewster as we lack the ambition, he's easily worth £25 million, just pay him whatever he wants because he's a future England international."
Then there was "we won't be buying Berge because we lack ambition, Napoli and Liverpool were interested in him so he's obviously top quality"
and then there's the during last Summer "we lack ambition so we've be selling Berge and N'Diaye before the start of the 22-23 season"

We will ONLY sell players if the buying clubs meet our valuation
AND the sale enabled us to bring in players that will strengthen the team/ squad.

So we aren't selling Berge unless we have adequate replacements lined up.

Selling Berge is a good piece of business if we can at least get our money back.
I'm not saying Berge is poor because he's quality and I expect him to do well in the PL
however Berge career at Sheff Utd is similar to Pogba at Man Utd, for some reason it's not really worked out.

A good businessman would be to cash in whilst we can because although he's not worth much to us, he would be an excellent acquisition for other teams.
Selling Berge for £25 million to Fulham is one of them rare situations where everyone is a winner.

Sheff Utd are happy to receive £25 mill, we're out of the embargo and can spend half of it towards bringing in players that suit us better.
We have a vacant loan position, so I expect us to bring in a top PL loanee. Also might even be a transfer brought in.

Fulham are happy as spending 25 million for a quality international player isn't that expensive.

The player is happy, can now live in one of the best cities in the world, playing at a ground with better facilities (Fulham are building a big new stand).
He will be training at a better training ground and also will be receiving a big pay rise.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Makes me laugh how our fans panic when nothing has actually changed.
I think back to the

"we won't be buying Brewster as we lack the ambition, he's easily worth £25 million, just pay him whatever he wants because he's a future England international."
Then there was "we won't be buying Berge because we lack ambition, Napoli and Liverpool were interested in him so he's obviously top quality"
and then there's the during last Summer "we lack ambition so we've be selling Berge and N'Diaye before the start of the 22-23 season"

We will ONLY sell players if the buying clubs meet our valuation
AND the sale enabled us to bring in players that will strengthen the team/ squad.

So we aren't selling Berge unless we have adequate replacements lined up.

Selling Berge is a good piece of business if we can at least get our money back.
I'm not saying Berge is poor because he's quality and I expect him to do well in the PL
however Berge career at Sheff Utd is similar to Pogba at Man Utd, for some reason it's not really worked out.

A good businessman would be to cash in whilst we can because although he's not worth much to us, he would be an excellent acquisition for other teams.
Selling Berge for £25 million to Fulham is one of them rare situations where everyone is a winner.

Sheff Utd are happy to receive £25 mill, we're out of the embargo and can spend half of it towards bringing in players that suit us better.
We have a vacant loan position, so I expect us to bring in a top PL loanee. Also might even be a transfer brought in.

Fulham are happy as spending 25 million for a quality international player isn't that expensive.

The player is happy, can now live in one of the best cities in the world, playing at a ground with better facilities (Fulham are building a big new stand).
He will be training at a better training ground and also will be receiving a big pay rise.
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Good post. Much too sensible though.
 
I'll be honest, I wouldn't be sad to see Sander go. His lack of consistency and inability to play well in the role we signed him for is frustrating, and I don't think believe he would be a big miss. Very injury prone too.

Personally, I think 20M + add-ons is a good deal given that he's been underperforming in a 2nd division and is so injury prone. To get that money back when he's hardly improved as a player since we signed him would be good business for me.

The issue is replacing him. We have two players lined up but that relies on the embargo being lifted in time. If it is, and we can bring in a player of the calibre of Lewis O'Brien + the Khadra replacement that Hecky wants, then thats probably an improvement to the squad coming out of a bad situation.

But the worrying thing for me is that this situation could've been a lot worse. What if Sander wasn't here? We would be in situation where we would have to sell someone like Ndiaye, which would be far more devastating.
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
I can see a situation whereby:

Sander leaves today, embargo lifted and a glimmer of false hope, heading into transfer deadline day. But, we spend the day hoping and noone comes in. That's my expectation.
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“glimmer of false hope”

Yes, and your delivery from The Crab may arrive today as well.
 
Le Cynique said:
I assume that everyone who is moaning about potentially* going into a Premier League season without enough contracted midfielders would be happy to start that season with what we've got in midfield, then?


*note: potentially. We're not promoted yet
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Exactly this. Midfield needs a overhaul for the PL even if nobody leaves.
 
Fulham also about to pay up Josh Onomah's contract, so I wouldn't be surprised if we went for him given the embargo. He looked decent against us a few years ago but he's not played much football for a while.
 

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