First half season points v second half season points in this century

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So, halfway through the season and we've accumulated 44 points: an impressive total.

The big question, of course, is whether we will keep up that form - which should see us promoted if we do - or whether there will be a drop off in the 2nd half of the season.

I was interested to see how we'd done historically in terms of collecting points in the first half and second half of a season, so I checked. Here's a table showing how we've done this century. All seasons were 46 games long save for the PL seasons, which were of course 38 games. The final column shows the percentage split between first half and second half points:

SeasonManager
Total
Points​
1st half points​
2nd half points​
% split​
1999-2000Heath/Warnock
54​
24​
30​
44/56​
2000-01Warnock
68​
36​
32​
53/47​
2001-02Warnock
60​
27​
33​
45/55​
2002-03Warnock
80​
42​
38​
53/47​
2003-04Warnock
71​
41​
30​
58/42​
2004-05Warnock
67​
36​
31​
54/46​
2005-06Warnock
90​
52​
38​
58/42​
2006-07Warnock
38​
20​
18​
53/47​
2007-08Robson/Blackwell
66​
30​
36​
45/55​
2008-09Blackwell
80​
36​
44​
45/55​
2009-10Blackwell
65​
32​
33​
49/51​
2010-11Blackwell/Speed/Adams
42​
25​
17​
60/40​
2011-12Wilson
90​
47​
43​
52/48​
2012-13Wilson/Morgan
75​
43​
32​
57/43​
2013-14Weir/Clough
67​
25​
42​
37/63​
2014-15Clough
71​
36​
35​
51/49​
2015-16Adkins
66​
36​
30​
55/45​
2016-17Wilder
100​
47​
53​
47/53​
2017-18Wilder
65​
38​
27​
58/42​
2018-19Wilder
89​
38​
51​
43/57​
2019-20Wilder
54​
29​
25​
54/46​
2020-21Wilder/Heckingbottom
23​
5​
18​
22/78​
2021-22Jokanovic/Heckingbottom
75​
32​
43​
43/57​
2022-23Heckingbottom
44​

Funny, if you add up the columns, we have gained 777 points in the first half of the 23 full seasons listed...and 779 in the second half of those seasons. So on average, there is virtually no difference between the team's performance in the first and second halves of seasons. But there is a fair amount of variance season by season.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the second half are:

2020-21 - 78% gained in second half. Not difficult to do when you have the worst start in league history.
2013-14 - 63% gained in second half. David Weir was an awful manager, wasn't he?
2021-22 - 57% gained in second half. Heckingbottom reverts to 3-5-2 and does a terrific job
2018-19 - 57% gained in second half. A phenomenal performance from Wilder and the team, taking 51 points (second only to his excellent tally of 53 2 seasons earlier) to chase down and pass Leeds.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the first half are:

2010-11 - 60% gained in first half. Mickey Adams doing a job that was clearly beyond him with a squad stripped of quality that had more than its fair share of arseholes in it
2003-04 - 58% gained in first half. This is what you get for selling Michael Brown and replacing him with Monty
2005-6 - 58% gained in first half. Warnock trying to fix what wasn't broken with a number of poor signings, but we had a big lead (52 first half points is the most by some distance) and he came to his senses in time
2017-18 - 58% gained in first half. Great start but the Coutts injury, Brooks illness, a really poor transfer window and a bit of Wilder stubbornness saw us drop down the table.

I thought that there would be nothing to learn from this exercise - after all, how we did 10 years ago is no guide to how we would do now - but I was wrong. Neil Warnock managed us in 7 full seasons and the team was worse - and sometimes appreciably worse - in the second half of six of them. Overall, Warnock teams accumulated 34 more points in the first halves of those seasons than they did in the second halves. Is this a fluke, or is there something in what Warnock is doing that causes this? There was usually - though not always - a slump in January or February, I recall. Makes me wonder whether this pattern is repeated at his other clubs. Perhaps the clubs that sacked him halfway knew what they were doing.

Wilder is the other manager with significant time in the role during this period, but there's no pattern to his teams' performance. Two big improvements second half, one big drop off, and one smaller drop off (which was a portent of things to come, unfortunately).

The most evenly matched first and second halves are two seasons that were not enjoyable: 2009-10 with Blackwell in charge, and 2014-15 with Clough in charge (to be fair, the cup exploits were enjoyable in the latter season). In each case there was only one point difference between the two halves.

So far, Heckingbottom has overseen second half improvements. If he does the same this year, we are going up.
 

Great read.

My take.

Only 3 seasons have bettered this seasons first half points total. It hasn’t felt that great to me!

Surely, given our horrendous injury record this season, we are on an upward trajectory in this sense given the recent returnees?

Assuming (!) that remains, only a disastrous JTW will derail us?

I’m feeling strangely confident for a “should know better “ blade!!
 
1980-81 we were looking good for promotion in the first half of the season but had terrible results in the 2nd half and went down. In 1956-57 we won all our first 5 games but finished 7th at the end of the season
 
excellent reference points
if we can just match the first 23 we wont be far away
and we have players coming back to fitness so augers well
 
Great research but no amount of analysis factors in injuries, different players, playing conditions ect.
That's why football is so unpredictable and enjoyable, let's hope we can carry on from our good first half of the season but nothing is won by stats.
 
We are still to play a lot of the better teams away from home and some of them will strengthen in January - our second half of the season will be tougher than the first.
 
So, halfway through the season and we've accumulated 44 points: an impressive total.

The big question, of course, is whether we will keep up that form - which should see us promoted if we do - or whether there will be a drop off in the 2nd half of the season.

I was interested to see how we'd done historically in terms of collecting points in the first half and second half of a season, so I checked. Here's a table showing how we've done this century. All seasons were 46 games long save for the PL seasons, which were of course 38 games. The final column shows the percentage split between first half and second half points:

SeasonManager
Total
Points​
1st half points​
2nd half points​
% split​
1999-2000Heath/Warnock
54​
24​
30​
44/56​
2000-01Warnock
68​
36​
32​
53/47​
2001-02Warnock
60​
27​
33​
45/55​
2002-03Warnock
80​
42​
38​
53/47​
2003-04Warnock
71​
41​
30​
58/42​
2004-05Warnock
67​
36​
31​
54/46​
2005-06Warnock
90​
52​
38​
58/42​
2006-07Warnock
38​
20​
18​
53/47​
2007-08Robson/Blackwell
66​
30​
36​
45/55​
2008-09Blackwell
80​
36​
44​
45/55​
2009-10Blackwell
65​
32​
33​
49/51​
2010-11Blackwell/Speed/Adams
42​
25​
17​
60/40​
2011-12Wilson
90​
47​
43​
52/48​
2012-13Wilson/Morgan
75​
43​
32​
57/43​
2013-14Weir/Clough
67​
25​
42​
37/63​
2014-15Clough
71​
36​
35​
51/49​
2015-16Adkins
66​
36​
30​
55/45​
2016-17Wilder
100​
47​
53​
47/53​
2017-18Wilder
65​
38​
27​
58/42​
2018-19Wilder
89​
38​
51​
43/57​
2019-20Wilder
54​
29​
25​
54/46​
2020-21Wilder/Heckingbottom
23​
5​
18​
22/78​
2021-22Jokanovic/Heckingbottom
75​
32​
43​
43/57​
2022-23Heckingbottom
44​

Funny, if you add up the columns, we have gained 777 points in the first half of the 23 full seasons listed...and 779 in the second half of those seasons. So on average, there is virtually no difference between the team's performance in the first and second halves of seasons. But there is a fair amount of variance season by season.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the second half are:

2020-21 - 78% gained in second half. Not difficult to do when you have the worst start in league history.
2013-14 - 63% gained in second half. David Weir was an awful manager, wasn't he?
2021-22 - 57% gained in second half. Heckingbottom reverts to 3-5-2 and does a terrific job
2018-19 - 57% gained in second half. A phenomenal performance from Wilder and the team, taking 51 points (second only to his excellent tally of 53 2 seasons earlier) to chase down and pass Leeds.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the first half are:

2010-11 - 60% gained in first half. Mickey Adams doing a job that was clearly beyond him with a squad stripped of quality that had more than its fair share of arseholes in it
2003-04 - 58% gained in first half. This is what you get for selling Michael Brown and replacing him with Monty
2005-6 - 58% gained in first half. Warnock trying to fix what wasn't broken with a number of poor signings, but we had a big lead (52 first half points is the most by some distance) and he came to his senses in time
2017-18 - 58% gained in first half. Great start but the Coutts injury, Brooks illness, a really poor transfer window and a bit of Wilder stubbornness saw us drop down the table.

I thought that there would be nothing to learn from this exercise - after all, how we did 10 years ago is no guide to how we would do now - but I was wrong. Neil Warnock managed us in 7 full seasons and the team was worse - and sometimes appreciably worse - in the second half of six of them. Overall, Warnock teams accumulated 34 more points in the first halves of those seasons than they did in the second halves. Is this a fluke, or is there something in what Warnock is doing that causes this? There was usually - though not always - a slump in January or February, I recall. Makes me wonder whether this pattern is repeated at his other clubs. Perhaps the clubs that sacked him halfway knew what they were doing.

Wilder is the other manager with significant time in the role during this period, but there's no pattern to his teams' performance. Two big improvements second half, one big drop off, and one smaller drop off (which was a portent of things to come, unfortunately).

The most evenly matched first and second halves are two seasons that were not enjoyable: 2009-10 with Blackwell in charge, and 2014-15 with Clough in charge (to be fair, the cup exploits were enjoyable in the latter season). In each case there was only one point difference between the two halves.

So far, Heckingbottom has overseen second half improvements. If he does the same this year, we are going up.
Good work Rev, any chance you can add a column showing where we finished the season? UTB
 
So, halfway through the season and we've accumulated 44 points: an impressive total.

The big question, of course, is whether we will keep up that form - which should see us promoted if we do - or whether there will be a drop off in the 2nd half of the season.

I was interested to see how we'd done historically in terms of collecting points in the first half and second half of a season, so I checked. Here's a table showing how we've done this century. All seasons were 46 games long save for the PL seasons, which were of course 38 games. The final column shows the percentage split between first half and second half points:

SeasonManager
Total
Points​
1st half points​
2nd half points​
% split​
1999-2000Heath/Warnock
54​
24​
30​
44/56​
2000-01Warnock
68​
36​
32​
53/47​
2001-02Warnock
60​
27​
33​
45/55​
2002-03Warnock
80​
42​
38​
53/47​
2003-04Warnock
71​
41​
30​
58/42​
2004-05Warnock
67​
36​
31​
54/46​
2005-06Warnock
90​
52​
38​
58/42​
2006-07Warnock
38​
20​
18​
53/47​
2007-08Robson/Blackwell
66​
30​
36​
45/55​
2008-09Blackwell
80​
36​
44​
45/55​
2009-10Blackwell
65​
32​
33​
49/51​
2010-11Blackwell/Speed/Adams
42​
25​
17​
60/40​
2011-12Wilson
90​
47​
43​
52/48​
2012-13Wilson/Morgan
75​
43​
32​
57/43​
2013-14Weir/Clough
67​
25​
42​
37/63​
2014-15Clough
71​
36​
35​
51/49​
2015-16Adkins
66​
36​
30​
55/45​
2016-17Wilder
100​
47​
53​
47/53​
2017-18Wilder
65​
38​
27​
58/42​
2018-19Wilder
89​
38​
51​
43/57​
2019-20Wilder
54​
29​
25​
54/46​
2020-21Wilder/Heckingbottom
23​
5​
18​
22/78​
2021-22Jokanovic/Heckingbottom
75​
32​
43​
43/57​
2022-23Heckingbottom
44​

Funny, if you add up the columns, we have gained 777 points in the first half of the 23 full seasons listed...and 779 in the second half of those seasons. So on average, there is virtually no difference between the team's performance in the first and second halves of seasons. But there is a fair amount of variance season by season.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the second half are:

2020-21 - 78% gained in second half. Not difficult to do when you have the worst start in league history.
2013-14 - 63% gained in second half. David Weir was an awful manager, wasn't he?
2021-22 - 57% gained in second half. Heckingbottom reverts to 3-5-2 and does a terrific job
2018-19 - 57% gained in second half. A phenomenal performance from Wilder and the team, taking 51 points (second only to his excellent tally of 53 2 seasons earlier) to chase down and pass Leeds.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the first half are:

2010-11 - 60% gained in first half. Mickey Adams doing a job that was clearly beyond him with a squad stripped of quality that had more than its fair share of arseholes in it
2003-04 - 58% gained in first half. This is what you get for selling Michael Brown and replacing him with Monty
2005-6 - 58% gained in first half. Warnock trying to fix what wasn't broken with a number of poor signings, but we had a big lead (52 first half points is the most by some distance) and he came to his senses in time
2017-18 - 58% gained in first half. Great start but the Coutts injury, Brooks illness, a really poor transfer window and a bit of Wilder stubbornness saw us drop down the table.

I thought that there would be nothing to learn from this exercise - after all, how we did 10 years ago is no guide to how we would do now - but I was wrong. Neil Warnock managed us in 7 full seasons and the team was worse - and sometimes appreciably worse - in the second half of six of them. Overall, Warnock teams accumulated 34 more points in the first halves of those seasons than they did in the second halves. Is this a fluke, or is there something in what Warnock is doing that causes this? There was usually - though not always - a slump in January or February, I recall. Makes me wonder whether this pattern is repeated at his other clubs. Perhaps the clubs that sacked him halfway knew what they were doing.

Wilder is the other manager with significant time in the role during this period, but there's no pattern to his teams' performance. Two big improvements second half, one big drop off, and one smaller drop off (which was a portent of things to come, unfortunately).

The most evenly matched first and second halves are two seasons that were not enjoyable: 2009-10 with Blackwell in charge, and 2014-15 with Clough in charge (to be fair, the cup exploits were enjoyable in the latter season). In each case there was only one point difference between the two halves.

So far, Heckingbottom has overseen second half improvements. If he does the same this year, we are going up.
Really enjoyed reading this, thanks.

The second half of 2018-19 was special in ways that even other special seasons weren't.
 

I wonder if we were to add things like players sales half way through a season or board room unrest or even losing a first team player all mid season how that affected us and our form.
 
I wonder if we were to add things like players sales half way through a season or board room unrest or even losing a first team player all mid season how that affected us and our form.
I mentioned a few key issues that were likely contributing factors in the outlying seasons.
 
Not worried in the slightest, at this moment in time it’s about whether we finish first or second. Worst case scenario is play-offs, we’d have all taken that at the start of season. The underlying stats tell us all we need to know regarding, our dominance over the other teams so far.

As for other teams strengthening, we’ve played at least 50% of this season unable to field a full strength team and still find ourselves above the lot of them. We’ll improve simply down to the fact we have players returning from injury.

Barring Watford, It’s not like the teams below us have the financial might to bring in game changing players, the vast majority of deals will be the usual recycling of names, rather than talents.
 
So, halfway through the season and we've accumulated 44 points: an impressive total.

The big question, of course, is whether we will keep up that form - which should see us promoted if we do - or whether there will be a drop off in the 2nd half of the season.

I was interested to see how we'd done historically in terms of collecting points in the first half and second half of a season, so I checked. Here's a table showing how we've done this century. All seasons were 46 games long save for the PL seasons, which were of course 38 games. The final column shows the percentage split between first half and second half points:

SeasonManager
Total
Points​
1st half points​
2nd half points​
% split​
1999-2000Heath/Warnock
54​
24​
30​
44/56​
2000-01Warnock
68​
36​
32​
53/47​
2001-02Warnock
60​
27​
33​
45/55​
2002-03Warnock
80​
42​
38​
53/47​
2003-04Warnock
71​
41​
30​
58/42​
2004-05Warnock
67​
36​
31​
54/46​
2005-06Warnock
90​
52​
38​
58/42​
2006-07Warnock
38​
20​
18​
53/47​
2007-08Robson/Blackwell
66​
30​
36​
45/55​
2008-09Blackwell
80​
36​
44​
45/55​
2009-10Blackwell
65​
32​
33​
49/51​
2010-11Blackwell/Speed/Adams
42​
25​
17​
60/40​
2011-12Wilson
90​
47​
43​
52/48​
2012-13Wilson/Morgan
75​
43​
32​
57/43​
2013-14Weir/Clough
67​
25​
42​
37/63​
2014-15Clough
71​
36​
35​
51/49​
2015-16Adkins
66​
36​
30​
55/45​
2016-17Wilder
100​
47​
53​
47/53​
2017-18Wilder
65​
38​
27​
58/42​
2018-19Wilder
89​
38​
51​
43/57​
2019-20Wilder
54​
29​
25​
54/46​
2020-21Wilder/Heckingbottom
23​
5​
18​
22/78​
2021-22Jokanovic/Heckingbottom
75​
32​
43​
43/57​
2022-23Heckingbottom
44​

Funny, if you add up the columns, we have gained 777 points in the first half of the 23 full seasons listed...and 779 in the second half of those seasons. So on average, there is virtually no difference between the team's performance in the first and second halves of seasons. But there is a fair amount of variance season by season.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the second half are:

2020-21 - 78% gained in second half. Not difficult to do when you have the worst start in league history.
2013-14 - 63% gained in second half. David Weir was an awful manager, wasn't he?
2021-22 - 57% gained in second half. Heckingbottom reverts to 3-5-2 and does a terrific job
2018-19 - 57% gained in second half. A phenomenal performance from Wilder and the team, taking 51 points (second only to his excellent tally of 53 2 seasons earlier) to chase down and pass Leeds.

The seasons where we gained the largest percentage of points in the first half are:

2010-11 - 60% gained in first half. Mickey Adams doing a job that was clearly beyond him with a squad stripped of quality that had more than its fair share of arseholes in it
2003-04 - 58% gained in first half. This is what you get for selling Michael Brown and replacing him with Monty
2005-6 - 58% gained in first half. Warnock trying to fix what wasn't broken with a number of poor signings, but we had a big lead (52 first half points is the most by some distance) and he came to his senses in time
2017-18 - 58% gained in first half. Great start but the Coutts injury, Brooks illness, a really poor transfer window and a bit of Wilder stubbornness saw us drop down the table.

I thought that there would be nothing to learn from this exercise - after all, how we did 10 years ago is no guide to how we would do now - but I was wrong. Neil Warnock managed us in 7 full seasons and the team was worse - and sometimes appreciably worse - in the second half of six of them. Overall, Warnock teams accumulated 34 more points in the first halves of those seasons than they did in the second halves. Is this a fluke, or is there something in what Warnock is doing that causes this? There was usually - though not always - a slump in January or February, I recall. Makes me wonder whether this pattern is repeated at his other clubs. Perhaps the clubs that sacked him halfway knew what they were doing.

Wilder is the other manager with significant time in the role during this period, but there's no pattern to his teams' performance. Two big improvements second half, one big drop off, and one smaller drop off (which was a portent of things to come, unfortunately).

The most evenly matched first and second halves are two seasons that were not enjoyable: 2009-10 with Blackwell in charge, and 2014-15 with Clough in charge (to be fair, the cup exploits were enjoyable in the latter season). In each case there was only one point difference between the two halves.

So far, Heckingbottom has overseen second half improvements. If he does the same this year, we are going up.
Can't complain with hecky's leadership. Great manager,amazing backroom staff and some decent players. I would be very surprised if UTD didn't go up this year, if they didn't I would be asking myself - who the fuck has been messing with the matrix...
 
1980-81 we were looking good for promotion in the first half of the season but had terrible results in the 2nd half and went down. In 1956-57 we won all our first 5 games but finished 7th at the end of the season
Positive goal difference in 80 81 too.
Fourth highest scorers too on 65, after Barnsley, Huddersfield and Chesterfield.
 
Bumping this thread to add the second half points tally to the chart I put in the initial post. I said that if Heckingbottom oversaw a third straight second half improvement, we'd go up. He did, and we did:

SeasonManagerTotal
Points
1st half points2nd half points% split
1999-2000Heath/Warnock54243044/56
2000-01Warnock68363253/47
2001-02Warnock60273345/55
2002-03Warnock80423853/47
2003-04Warnock71413058/42
2004-05Warnock67363154/46
2005-06Warnock90523858/42
2006-07Warnock38201853/47
2007-08Robson/Blackwell66303645/55
2008-09Blackwell80364445/55
2009-10Blackwell65323349/51
2010-11Blackwell/Speed/Adams42251760/40
2011-12Wilson90474352/48
2012-13Wilson/Morgan75433257/43
2013-14Weir/Clough67254237/63
2014-15Clough71363551/49
2015-16Adkins66363055/45
2016-17Wilder100475347/53
2017-18Wilder65382758/42
2018-19Wilder89385143/57
2019-20Wilder54292554/46
2020-21Wilder/Heckingbottom2351822/78
2021-22Jokanovic/Heckingbottom75324343/57
2022-23Heckingbottom91444748/52

Not much difference between 1st and second half points this time round though. The closest totals since Clough in 2014-15. Gives the impression of high quality performance throughout, which is more or less what we saw.

Only Chris Wilder - twice - has gained more second half points than Heckingbottom this century.
 

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