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billyblademan said:
Anel back immediately makes us stronger. Then we just need one of JLT, Clark, Enda, or Lowe back to have a pretty much first choice back 5. In fact, you can add Baldock to that list, if we're willing to accept Bogz playing on the left (not ideal, but better than nothing).

Midfield and attack we've been fairly robust I think, apart from Berge out now. Khadra or McAtee can play Berge's role. Up front we've decent competition, with Highland Haaland back and Brewster
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billyblademan said:
Anel back immediately makes us stronger. Then we just need one of JLT, Clark, Enda, or Lowe back to have a pretty much first choice back 5. In fact, you can add Baldock to that list, if we're willing to accept Bogz playing on the left (not ideal, but better than nothing).

Midfield and attack we've been fairly robust I think, apart from Berge out now. Khadra or McAtee can play Berge's role. Up front we've decent competition, with Highland Haaland back and Brewster scoring last weekend.
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Khadra and McAtee can play Berges role 😂
 
There's a poster on here who claims to have spoken to someone within the coaching staff. He alleges Berge is now out until after the World Cup.
The moonboot isn't definitive but would agree it doesn't look like a return is imminent.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
There's a poster on here who claims to have spoken to someone within the coaching staff. He alleges Berge is now out until after the World Cup.
The moonboot isn't definitive but would agree it doesn't look like a return is imminent.
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Is that poster you? Or are you just collating all potential injury conversations into one handy injury rumour mill?
 
Updated guesses (big emphasis) following the latest media round. A pretty depressing listen....

Bad news on Jayden Bogle & Sander Berge. But did anybody really expect anything else?
PH flogged a very tired-looking Sander Berge way too hard after the international break. He looked knackered and ineffective, yet we kept sticking him out for consecutive 90 minutes. Low and behold, last minute of the game, he picks up an injury. OK, it's from a challenge... but he shouldn't have even been on the pitch.
Likewise, Bogle. Very, very early into his comeback after a lengthy lay-off.... 77 minutes until we bring him off. Injured. We'll be lucky if we see him again this year.
What on earth is going on with PH's squad management? Short-sighted and borderline negligent.

Anyway, some good news... Ben Osborn returned on Saturday and it also sounds like Baldock, Ahmedhodzic and Fleck might be available now too.
However, Heckingbottom's comments in his post-Stoke-match interview about "forcing" players back into the fold are of deep concern. If these lads aren't 100% (and this applies for anyone returning) I'd much rather we were patient. I wouldn't even be against us dropping out of the top six between now and the world cup break if it meant we managed the squad correctly and gave ourselves the best possible chance of having something close to a full set of options thereafter.
Have also moved Coulibaly forward by a month. It seems we're considering a loan move for him again which must mean he is due back sometime before Feb'23. Seems pretty pie-in-the-sky thinking to me though... I'd be very surprised if our circumstances allow for any outward movement. Got to feel sorry for the likes of Kyron Gordon and particularly Daniel Jebbison who's development is now being held back by all this.


G Baldock - mid-October 2022 - oblique strain

A Ahmedhodzic - mid-October 2022 (3 weeks) - thigh strain

J Fleck - mid-October 2022 (2 months) - broken leg

J Robinson - late-October 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments

C Clark - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring

E Stevens - November 2022 (3 months) - hamstring

S Berge - December 2022 (2 months) - ankle ligament

J Bogle - January 2023 (3 months) - knee

M Lowe - January 2023 (4 months) - hamstring

I Coulibaly - January 2023 (5 months) - knee ligaments

J O'Connell - unlikely to return.
 
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CaptainMorgans said:
flogged a very tired-looking Sander Berge way too hard after the international break. He looked knackered and ineffective, yet we kept sticking him out for consecutive 90 minutes. Low and behold, last minute of the game, he picks up an injury. OK, it's from a challenge... but he shouldn't have even been on the pitch.
Likewise, Bogle. Very, very early into his comeback after a lengthy lay-off.... 77 minutes until we bring him off. Injured. We'll be lucky if we see him again this year.
What on earth is going on with PH's squad management? Short-sighted and borderline negligent
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So:
Sander, an opposition player injures him but it's heckys fault for having him on the pitch?
Maybe never play him. To avoid oppo players injuring him?
If it was a strain from tiredness, I'd agree.

Bogle.
Loose bit of metal found in MRI afterwards.
If he'd left him another year, same thing would have happened.
Heckies fault.
 

Greasy Chap Butty said:
So:
Sander, an opposition player injures him but it's heckys fault for having him on the pitch?
Maybe never play him. To avoid oppo players injuring him?
If it was a strain from tiredness, I'd agree.

Bogle.
Loose bit of metal found in MRI afterwards.
If he'd left him another year, same thing would have happened.
Heckies fault.
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Do you really think it was a good idea to play Bogle for 77 minutes in his first start after being out for 8 months, and with only 25 minutes in the bank from 3 days before? Forget the injury crisis, player welfare comes first and that was a stupid decision.
 
Smirth said:
Do you really think it was a good idea to play Bogle for 77 minutes in his first start after being out for 8 months, and with only 25 minutes in the bank from 3 days before? Forget the injury crisis, player welfare comes first and that was a stupid decision.
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It seemed a lot to an outsider. But that isn't the cause of his current injury. Like I said, if the first operation wasn't done properly it wasn't done. It isn't down to hecky.
 
Seeking permission to flounce.

Also seeking advice about the direction in which to pose such flouncing.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
It seemed a lot to an outsider. But that isn't the cause of his current injury. Like I said, if the first operation wasn't done properly it wasn't done. It isn't down to hecky.
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Even if that is the case, it’s still a brainless decision and puts players at risk.
 
Smirth said:
Even if that is the case, it’s still a brainless decision and puts players at risk.
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Why?
The exact same thing would happen if he rested him for another month.

If a player has been injured because of playing him while unfit, I'd agree.
Problem.is with this thread, there are a group of people who can't take a step back and think, they just want to blame PH for everything regardless.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
Why?
The exact same thing would happen if he rested him for another month.

If a player has been injured because of playing him while unfit, I'd agree.
Problem.is with this thread, there are a group of people who can't take a step back and think, they just want to blame PH for everything regardless.
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Because he’s been out with a serious injury for 8 months!

I accept that it’s been reported that the operation was cocked up somehow so would have happened anyway.

However both things can be true and the point still stands that playing a player who has been out injured for 8 months for 77 minutes in his first start and with only 25 mins of first team football a few day before is a stupid thing to do. I said at the time it was stupid to have started him in that game given his long absence and it felt as though we were rushing him back.

I’m also not trying to blame PH for everything, I appreciate some are that way but I’m not. I support him but will call out when I don’t think he makes the right call, and I said at the time we shouldn’t have started Bogle. One of the main reasons Bogle had to play that long was because PH refused to tweak his formation which wasn’t working, another criticism of him I have is that he can be too slow to react in games.
 
Smirth said:
Because he’s been out with a serious injury for 8 months!

I accept that it’s been reported that the operation was cocked up somehow so would have happened anyway.

However both things can be true and the point still stands that playing a player who has been out injured for 8 months for 77 minutes in his first start and with only 25 mins of first team football a few day before is a stupid thing to do. I said at the time it was stupid to have started him in that game given his long absence and it felt as though we were rushing him back.

I’m also not trying to blame PH for everything, I appreciate some are that way but I’m not. I support him but will call out when I don’t think he makes the right call, and I said at the time we shouldn’t have started Bogle. One of the main reasons Bogle had to play that long was because PH refused to tweak his formation which wasn’t working, another criticism of him I have is that he can be too slow to react in games.
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I agree that it seemed a long time to play him, but he had been ramping up in training. I thought the same.
But like you say the injury was going to happen anyway because of the cock up.
So, there is some criticism that can be fairly made, limited to that bit.
The non thinking witch Hunters don't seem to have that level of logic.
 
So Bogle and Sander both out until after World Cup :/
 
Anel back
Baldock back

Fleck training

Berge post world cup
Bogle post world cup
 

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