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Well, that was disappointing stuff, wasn't it?

We are clearly struggling with post-internationalitis once again with a worryingly unsolved and growing injury list and a propensity to reset our game to a predictable pattern of spending the first ten on the attack with nowt to show for it and the next eighty looking fragile and vulnerable. Gone tonight was the surefoooted swagger we'd shown earlier in the season because as soon as QPR had us sussed, a switch was flipped and we were simply 'dealt with'. It happened last season and the season before and is symptomatic of playing a team in a style with the players we have. We spend a lot of time passing, passing, passing but have no route forward with hardly anyone - N'Daiye and Khadra aside - willing to run at or past opposition players to gain advantage. We can play keep ball all we want but it doesn't get a win or even a draw. And the more the game drew on at 0-1 the more QPR simply soaked us up and prevented anyone with any ideas from penetrating. Birmingham did that and frustrated the fuck out of us and with tonight's game, many teams will be taking notes now and marshalling their wagons accordingly given we have proffed just one point out of six. Stoke will be no easy feat on Saturday and a draw will be a result, even if it means we give up the top position. Even chucking Billy and Poor Kid on gave us nothing.

As said, we've seen this symptom before where we falter and stumble. Sure, Birmingham and QPR at home should yield us at least four points possibly three from the first match. But with the worrying injury list and players playing either well out of position or well under par, we need to get ourselves back to first principles and get that first, early goal and defend the lead, rather than allow a game to drag on with frustrating predictability until the opposition grab a not-so-shocking opener out of nothing. We had chances tonight and we had breaks. Lots were blocked and lots ended up with players in the wrong position.

One would have hoped tonight after the iffy game against Birmingham and us at 0-0 at HT with a Hecky talking to, we'd have come out a toasted QPR in the second. It wasn't to be and we need to fucking fix that. Promotion - automatic a very distinct possibility - will depend on us starting and finishing at the same pace and workrate

Foderingham 6/10: Disappointing with the goal, but not really at fault. Considering what he has saved this season it's minor stuff. The fact that he had little esle to do and we still lost says a lot about our poor performance as a team though
Baldock 5/10: Not his best game and to cap it all, picked up an injury to boot
Basham 3/10: All over the shop for most of the game and run a bit transparent by their front men
Egan 4/10: Another barley decent performance marred by his ability to head a perfectly decent cross into the kop
RND 7.5/10: Tough, dogged and energetic outing from the Welshman
Norwood 5/10: Some good, some bad. A great shot and few good crosses in the second half offset by some shit hopeful and woeful long passing in the first half
Doyle 6/10: Gritty and involved if it seemed he was doing all the midfield spadework on his own at times
N'Daiye 5/10: Shame for him because he was left to create much of his own opportunity at time whilst the rest of the team passed it round the back for their own entertainment
McBurnie 3/10: Back to shithousing and diving at challenges comically. I do hope his early restoration of some sort of form wasn't simply a flash in the pan

Khadra 6/10: Showed great determination in his new position going at the opposition with some awesome sweeping crosses where largely no fucker gambled on
Sharp 6/10: Showed typical Billy heart and willingness to put the opposition under duress
Brewster 4/10: Nowt much happening for him. I can't see him making much progress this season and hence will be our worst signing, which is a shame
McAtee 5/10: Growing steadily into the role and the game. Like Doyle, has definite capability, but is he too good for this team?

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor setup and tactics. Pass, pass, pass and pretty little movement for those on the ball. Wether this is down to tiredness or strategy remains to be seen. But we need ninety minutes of the first ten today to make our marks better

pommpey
 

pommpey said:
Well, that was disappointing stuff, wasn't it?

We are clearly struggling with post-internationalitis once again with a worryingly unsolved and growing injury list and a propensity to reset our game to a predictable pattern of spending the first ten on the attack with nowt to show for it and the next eighty looking fragile and vulnerable. Gone tonight was the surefoooted swagger we'd shown earlier in the season because as soon as QPR had us sussed, a switch was flipped and we were simply 'dealt with'. It happened last season and the season before and is symptomatic of playing a team in a style with the players we have. We spend a lot of time passing, passing, passing but have no route forward with hardly anyone - N'Daiye and Khadra aside - willing to run at or past opposition players to gain advantage. We can play keep ball all we want but it doesn't get a win or even a draw. And the more the game drew on at 0-1 the more QPR simply soaked us up and prevented anyone with any ideas from penetrating. Birmingham did that and frustrated the fuck out of us and with tonight's game, many teams will be taking notes now and marshalling their wagons accordingly given we have proffed just one point out of six. Stoke will be no easy feat on Saturday and a draw will be a result, even if it means we give up the top position. Even chucking Billy and Poor Kid on gave us nothing.

As said, we've seen this symptom before where we falter and stumble. Sure, Birmingham and QPR at home should yield us at least four points possibly three from the first match. But with the worrying injury list and players playing either well out of position or well under par, we need to get ourselves back to first principles and get that first, early goal and defend the lead, rather than allow a game to drag on with frustrating predictability until the opposition grab a not-so-shocking opener out of nothing. We had chances tonight and we had breaks. Lots were blocked and lots ended up with players in the wrong position.

One would have hoped tonight after the iffy game against Birmingham and us at 0-0 at HT with a Hecky talking to, we'd have come out a toasted QPR in the second. It wasn't to be and we need to fucking fix that. Promotion - automatic a very distinct possibility - will depend on us starting and finishing at the same pace and workrate

Foderingham 6/10: Disappointing with the goal, but not really at fault. Considering what he has saved this season it's minor stuff. The fact that he had little esle to do and we still lost says a lot about our poor performance as a team though
Baldock 5/10: Not his best game and to cap it all, picked up an injury to boot
Basham 3/10: All over the shop for most of the game and run a bit transparent by their front men
Egan 4/10: Another barley decent performance marred by his ability to head a perfectly decent cross into the kop
RND 7.5/10: Tough, dogged and energetic outing from the Welshman
Norwood 5/10: Some good, some bad. A great shot and few good crosses in the second half offset by some shit hopeful and woeful long passing in the first half
Doyle 6/10: Gritty and involved if it seemed he was doing all the midfield spadework on his own at times
N'Daiye 5/10: Shame for him because he was left to create much of his own opportunity at time whilst the rest of the team passed it round the back for their own entertainment
McBurnie 3/10: Back to shithousing and diving at challenges comically. I do hope his early restoration of some sort of form wasn't simply a flash in the pan

Khadra 6/10: Showed great determination in his new position going at the opposition with some awesome sweeping crosses where largely no fucker gambled on
Sharp 6/10: Showed typical Billy heart and willingness to put the opposition under duress
Brewster 4/10: Nowt much happening for him. I can't see him making much progress this season and hence will be our worst signing, which is a shame
McAtee 5/10: Growing steadily into the role and the game. Like Doyle, has definite capability, but is he too good for this team?

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor setup and tactics. Pass, pass, pass and pretty little movement for those on the ball. Wether this is down to tiredness or strategy remains to be seen. But we need ninety minutes of the first ten today to make our marks better

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pommpey
 
Billy was awful after he came on. Cleared/botched several half decent openings. Surely a 5 at best.
I agree about Egan its F**king annoying after international break - plays like a lion for Ireland goals with the head and foot. Plays for us like a kitten, 50p head on all headers go straight into the kop and some rank bad soft as shite defending usually as well where he doesnt put his body on the line. Hecky should have a word with him. Its piss poor and obvious. Maybe not agree to release him for his beloved Ireland until he puts a bit more effort in for his employer...
 
pommpey said:
Well, that was disappointing stuff, wasn't it?

We are clearly struggling with post-internationalitis once again with a worryingly unsolved and growing injury list and a propensity to reset our game to a predictable pattern of spending the first ten on the attack with nowt to show for it and the next eighty looking fragile and vulnerable. Gone tonight was the surefoooted swagger we'd shown earlier in the season because as soon as QPR had us sussed, a switch was flipped and we were simply 'dealt with'. It happened last season and the season before and is symptomatic of playing a team in a style with the players we have. We spend a lot of time passing, passing, passing but have no route forward with hardly anyone - N'Daiye and Khadra aside - willing to run at or past opposition players to gain advantage. We can play keep ball all we want but it doesn't get a win or even a draw. And the more the game drew on at 0-1 the more QPR simply soaked us up and prevented anyone with any ideas from penetrating. Birmingham did that and frustrated the fuck out of us and with tonight's game, many teams will be taking notes now and marshalling their wagons accordingly given we have proffed just one point out of six. Stoke will be no easy feat on Saturday and a draw will be a result, even if it means we give up the top position. Even chucking Billy and Poor Kid on gave us nothing.

As said, we've seen this symptom before where we falter and stumble. Sure, Birmingham and QPR at home should yield us at least four points possibly three from the first match. But with the worrying injury list and players playing either well out of position or well under par, we need to get ourselves back to first principles and get that first, early goal and defend the lead, rather than allow a game to drag on with frustrating predictability until the opposition grab a not-so-shocking opener out of nothing. We had chances tonight and we had breaks. Lots were blocked and lots ended up with players in the wrong position.

One would have hoped tonight after the iffy game against Birmingham and us at 0-0 at HT with a Hecky talking to, we'd have come out a toasted QPR in the second. It wasn't to be and we need to fucking fix that. Promotion - automatic a very distinct possibility - will depend on us starting and finishing at the same pace and workrate

Foderingham 6/10: Disappointing with the goal, but not really at fault. Considering what he has saved this season it's minor stuff. The fact that he had little esle to do and we still lost says a lot about our poor performance as a team though
Baldock 5/10: Not his best game and to cap it all, picked up an injury to boot
Basham 3/10: All over the shop for most of the game and run a bit transparent by their front men
Egan 4/10: Another barley decent performance marred by his ability to head a perfectly decent cross into the kop
RND 7.5/10: Tough, dogged and energetic outing from the Welshman
Norwood 5/10: Some good, some bad. A great shot and few good crosses in the second half offset by some shit hopeful and woeful long passing in the first half
Doyle 6/10: Gritty and involved if it seemed he was doing all the midfield spadework on his own at times
N'Daiye 5/10: Shame for him because he was left to create much of his own opportunity at time whilst the rest of the team passed it round the back for their own entertainment
McBurnie 3/10: Back to shithousing and diving at challenges comically. I do hope his early restoration of some sort of form wasn't simply a flash in the pan

Khadra 6/10: Showed great determination in his new position going at the opposition with some awesome sweeping crosses where largely no fucker gambled on
Sharp 6/10: Showed typical Billy heart and willingness to put the opposition under duress
Brewster 4/10: Nowt much happening for him. I can't see him making much progress this season and hence will be our worst signing, which is a shame
McAtee 5/10: Growing steadily into the role and the game. Like Doyle, has definite capability, but is he too good for this team?

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor setup and tactics. Pass, pass, pass and pretty little movement for those on the ball. Wether this is down to tiredness or strategy remains to be seen. But we need ninety minutes of the first ten today to make our marks better

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Bogle thoughts? It's not too late 😉
 
Sharp gets a six lol, he was bloody awful and added nothing. Brewster battled to win it back a few times but again feeding off scraps. Switch their scores round and your about right.
 
Sander, probably another low mark (4 or 5)

The bloke was running on empty and mainly on the left, but in a withdrawn role which clearly doesn't suit him.

Needs a rest but hopefully not through an injury. Trouble is who replaces him ?
 
Uncanny- this report is 100% how I saw it - in both your critique and scores.

If ever there was strong confirmation of the line 'you must score when you are on top' epitomises us- when we don't score early its a massive struggle every time.

Baldock's crossing my God - it's hopeless.

McBurnie throwing himself on the floor- it really is time the management tell him 'pack it in' utterly pointless gets him and us nowhere.
 
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pommpey said:
Well, that was disappointing stuff, wasn't it?

We are clearly struggling with post-internationalitis once again with a worryingly unsolved and growing injury list and a propensity to reset our game to a predictable pattern of spending the first ten on the attack with nowt to show for it and the next eighty looking fragile and vulnerable. Gone tonight was the surefoooted swagger we'd shown earlier in the season because as soon as QPR had us sussed, a switch was flipped and we were simply 'dealt with'. It happened last season and the season before and is symptomatic of playing a team in a style with the players we have. We spend a lot of time passing, passing, passing but have no route forward with hardly anyone - N'Daiye and Khadra aside - willing to run at or past opposition players to gain advantage. We can play keep ball all we want but it doesn't get a win or even a draw. And the more the game drew on at 0-1 the more QPR simply soaked us up and prevented anyone with any ideas from penetrating. Birmingham did that and frustrated the fuck out of us and with tonight's game, many teams will be taking notes now and marshalling their wagons accordingly given we have proffed just one point out of six. Stoke will be no easy feat on Saturday and a draw will be a result, even if it means we give up the top position. Even chucking Billy and Poor Kid on gave us nothing.

As said, we've seen this symptom before where we falter and stumble. Sure, Birmingham and QPR at home should yield us at least four points possibly three from the first match. But with the worrying injury list and players playing either well out of position or well under par, we need to get ourselves back to first principles and get that first, early goal and defend the lead, rather than allow a game to drag on with frustrating predictability until the opposition grab a not-so-shocking opener out of nothing. We had chances tonight and we had breaks. Lots were blocked and lots ended up with players in the wrong position.

One would have hoped tonight after the iffy game against Birmingham and us at 0-0 at HT with a Hecky talking to, we'd have come out a toasted QPR in the second. It wasn't to be and we need to fucking fix that. Promotion - automatic a very distinct possibility - will depend on us starting and finishing at the same pace and workrate

Foderingham 6/10: Disappointing with the goal, but not really at fault. Considering what he has saved this season it's minor stuff. The fact that he had little esle to do and we still lost says a lot about our poor performance as a team though
Baldock 5/10: Not his best game and to cap it all, picked up an injury to boot
Basham 3/10: All over the shop for most of the game and run a bit transparent by their front men
Egan 4/10: Another barley decent performance marred by his ability to head a perfectly decent cross into the kop
RND 7.5/10: Tough, dogged and energetic outing from the Welshman
Norwood 5/10: Some good, some bad. A great shot and few good crosses in the second half offset by some shit hopeful and woeful long passing in the first half
Doyle 6/10: Gritty and involved if it seemed he was doing all the midfield spadework on his own at times
N'Daiye 5/10: Shame for him because he was left to create much of his own opportunity at time whilst the rest of the team passed it round the back for their own entertainment
McBurnie 3/10: Back to shithousing and diving at challenges comically. I do hope his early restoration of some sort of form wasn't simply a flash in the pan

Khadra 6/10: Showed great determination in his new position going at the opposition with some awesome sweeping crosses where largely no fucker gambled on
Sharp 6/10: Showed typical Billy heart and willingness to put the opposition under duress
Brewster 4/10: Nowt much happening for him. I can't see him making much progress this season and hence will be our worst signing, which is a shame
McAtee 5/10: Growing steadily into the role and the game. Like Doyle, has definite capability, but is he too good for this team?

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor setup and tactics. Pass, pass, pass and pretty little movement for those on the ball. Wether this is down to tiredness or strategy remains to be seen. But we need ninety minutes of the first ten today to make our marks better

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pommpey said:
Well, that was disappointing stuff, wasn't it?

We are clearly struggling with post-internationalitis once again with a worryingly unsolved and growing injury list and a propensity to reset our game to a predictable pattern of spending the first ten on the attack with nowt to show for it and the next eighty looking fragile and vulnerable. Gone tonight was the surefoooted swagger we'd shown earlier in the season because as soon as QPR had us sussed, a switch was flipped and we were simply 'dealt with'. It happened last season and the season before and is symptomatic of playing a team in a style with the players we have. We spend a lot of time passing, passing, passing but have no route forward with hardly anyone - N'Daiye and Khadra aside - willing to run at or past opposition players to gain advantage. We can play keep ball all we want but it doesn't get a win or even a draw. And the more the game drew on at 0-1 the more QPR simply soaked us up and prevented anyone with any ideas from penetrating. Birmingham did that and frustrated the fuck out of us and with tonight's game, many teams will be taking notes now and marshalling their wagons accordingly given we have proffed just one point out of six. Stoke will be no easy feat on Saturday and a draw will be a result, even if it means we give up the top position. Even chucking Billy and Poor Kid on gave us nothing.

As said, we've seen this symptom before where we falter and stumble. Sure, Birmingham and QPR at home should yield us at least four points possibly three from the first match. But with the worrying injury list and players playing either well out of position or well under par, we need to get ourselves back to first principles and get that first, early goal and defend the lead, rather than allow a game to drag on with frustrating predictability until the opposition grab a not-so-shocking opener out of nothing. We had chances tonight and we had breaks. Lots were blocked and lots ended up with players in the wrong position.

One would have hoped tonight after the iffy game against Birmingham and us at 0-0 at HT with a Hecky talking to, we'd have come out a toasted QPR in the second. It wasn't to be and we need to fucking fix that. Promotion - automatic a very distinct possibility - will depend on us starting and finishing at the same pace and workrate

Foderingham 6/10: Disappointing with the goal, but not really at fault. Considering what he has saved this season it's minor stuff. The fact that he had little esle to do and we still lost says a lot about our poor performance as a team though
Baldock 5/10: Not his best game and to cap it all, picked up an injury to boot
Basham 3/10: All over the shop for most of the game and run a bit transparent by their front men
Egan 4/10: Another barley decent performance marred by his ability to head a perfectly decent cross into the kop
RND 7.5/10: Tough, dogged and energetic outing from the Welshman
Norwood 5/10: Some good, some bad. A great shot and few good crosses in the second half offset by some shit hopeful and woeful long passing in the first half
Doyle 6/10: Gritty and involved if it seemed he was doing all the midfield spadework on his own at times
N'Daiye 5/10: Shame for him because he was left to create much of his own opportunity at time whilst the rest of the team passed it round the back for their own entertainment
McBurnie 3/10: Back to shithousing and diving at challenges comically. I do hope his early restoration of some sort of form wasn't simply a flash in the pan

Khadra 6/10: Showed great determination in his new position going at the opposition with some awesome sweeping crosses where largely no fucker gambled on
Sharp 6/10: Showed typical Billy heart and willingness to put the opposition under duress
Brewster 4/10: Nowt much happening for him. I can't see him making much progress this season and hence will be our worst signing, which is a shame
McAtee 5/10: Growing steadily into the role and the game. Like Doyle, has definite capability, but is he too good for this team?

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor setup and tactics. Pass, pass, pass and pretty little movement for those on the ball. Wether this is down to tiredness or strategy remains to be seen. But we need ninety minutes of the first ten today to make our marks better

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Apologies for the omissions. My mother-in-law was admitted to hospital just after the match and I was halfway through the My take ...

Bogle 4/10: Thought he was well off his game though in mitigation he has been a long time out and is possibly not 100% match fit or match sharp. And he's playing out of position
Berge 3/10: Low mark because it was an unspectacular, ineffective game for him where he really on balance achieved nothing. For us to go up, he has to address this intermittent form, because as he has found, the gulf in performance upstairs is huge and if QPR can make him look ordinary, the PL will make him look shite

pommpey
 
I think the only person 6 or above tonite was RND thought he was very good again. The rest of the team looked way out of sorts, we're only 12 games into the season with a few international games thrown in and we looked knackered it's a worrying sign considering how longs left of the season. For me Hecky needs to be braver and mix it up abit, when the formation doesn't seem to be working we look very very average.
 

Good review pommpey

After that opening spell we looked disorganised in defence, confused going forward and overall just really knackered. Bash, Berge and McB were atrocious, and in fact it's the worse that I have ever seen Sir Christopher play for us.

There were some bright sparks though. RND was superb again. Khadra looked sharp and McAtee did ok.

I feel for the lads and management. because this injury crisis (and that's what it is) has derailed things, again. It's insane when you consider how strong we looked at the back pre-season, and here we are a few months in with 5 left sided defenders out with serious knocks, in addition to JOC. Bogle is barely recovered, and now Baldock is fucked, and we still don't know when Anel will be back. Add into that Fleck and it seems Berge could be a gonner too, and I really don't recall a period in my life (including last season) where any team anywhere has had so many injuries. The closest would be the Pigs during a period under Carlos, but ours seem to be going on for longer.

Still, we can only play the cards we have available, and we really need to freshen it up for Saturday, something which should have happened already mind.
Get Khadra, McAtee and Sharp or Brewster into the starting 11, and give McB and Ndaye a break. I am assuming that Berge will be out too.
 
Billy is a waste of time sub really unless we get a penalty late on, offers nothing
We have been sussed out at the moment, unless we get more clinical final passes to players in the box and runners teams just sit back, defend deep, slow the game down and create frustration
It’s still early days obviously and we are in a great position with some excellent players, but need injured players back asap
 
pommpey said:
Apologies for the omissions. My mother-in-law was admitted to hospital just after the match and I was halfway through the My take ...

Bogle 4/10: Thought he was well off his game though in mitigation he has been a long time out and is possibly not 100% match fit or match sharp. And he's playing out of position
Berge 3/10: Low mark because it was an unspectacular, ineffective game for him where he really on balance achieved nothing. For us to go up, he has to address this intermittent form, because as he has found, the gulf in performance upstairs is huge and if QPR can make him look ordinary, the PL will make him look shite

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Fair assessments all round. The B’s were the problem last night for me.
(Mc)Burnie - your comments about him were spot on. Back to his worst.
Berge - wandered about with the odd bit of effort here & there.
Bogle - not match fit or match sharp.
Bash - had a night to forget.
Brewster - ……….

Hope the MIL is OK Pommps.
 
pommpey said:
Well, that was disappointing stuff, wasn't it?

We are clearly struggling with post-internationalitis once again with a worryingly unsolved and growing injury list and a propensity to reset our game to a predictable pattern of spending the first ten on the attack with nowt to show for it and the next eighty looking fragile and vulnerable. Gone tonight was the surefoooted swagger we'd shown earlier in the season because as soon as QPR had us sussed, a switch was flipped and we were simply 'dealt with'. It happened last season and the season before and is symptomatic of playing a team in a style with the players we have. We spend a lot of time passing, passing, passing but have no route forward with hardly anyone - N'Daiye and Khadra aside - willing to run at or past opposition players to gain advantage. We can play keep ball all we want but it doesn't get a win or even a draw. And the more the game drew on at 0-1 the more QPR simply soaked us up and prevented anyone with any ideas from penetrating. Birmingham did that and frustrated the fuck out of us and with tonight's game, many teams will be taking notes now and marshalling their wagons accordingly given we have proffed just one point out of six. Stoke will be no easy feat on Saturday and a draw will be a result, even if it means we give up the top position. Even chucking Billy and Poor Kid on gave us nothing.

As said, we've seen this symptom before where we falter and stumble. Sure, Birmingham and QPR at home should yield us at least four points possibly three from the first match. But with the worrying injury list and players playing either well out of position or well under par, we need to get ourselves back to first principles and get that first, early goal and defend the lead, rather than allow a game to drag on with frustrating predictability until the opposition grab a not-so-shocking opener out of nothing. We had chances tonight and we had breaks. Lots were blocked and lots ended up with players in the wrong position.

One would have hoped tonight after the iffy game against Birmingham and us at 0-0 at HT with a Hecky talking to, we'd have come out a toasted QPR in the second. It wasn't to be and we need to fucking fix that. Promotion - automatic a very distinct possibility - will depend on us starting and finishing at the same pace and workrate

Foderingham 6/10: Disappointing with the goal, but not really at fault. Considering what he has saved this season it's minor stuff. The fact that he had little esle to do and we still lost says a lot about our poor performance as a team though
Baldock 5/10: Not his best game and to cap it all, picked up an injury to boot
Basham 3/10: All over the shop for most of the game and run a bit transparent by their front men
Egan 4/10: Another barley decent performance marred by his ability to head a perfectly decent cross into the kop
RND 7.5/10: Tough, dogged and energetic outing from the Welshman
Norwood 5/10: Some good, some bad. A great shot and few good crosses in the second half offset by some shit hopeful and woeful long passing in the first half
Doyle 6/10: Gritty and involved if it seemed he was doing all the midfield spadework on his own at times
N'Daiye 5/10: Shame for him because he was left to create much of his own opportunity at time whilst the rest of the team passed it round the back for their own entertainment
McBurnie 3/10: Back to shithousing and diving at challenges comically. I do hope his early restoration of some sort of form wasn't simply a flash in the pan

Khadra 6/10: Showed great determination in his new position going at the opposition with some awesome sweeping crosses where largely no fucker gambled on
Sharp 6/10: Showed typical Billy heart and willingness to put the opposition under duress
Brewster 4/10: Nowt much happening for him. I can't see him making much progress this season and hence will be our worst signing, which is a shame
McAtee 5/10: Growing steadily into the role and the game. Like Doyle, has definite capability, but is he too good for this team?

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor setup and tactics. Pass, pass, pass and pretty little movement for those on the ball. Wether this is down to tiredness or strategy remains to be seen. But we need ninety minutes of the first ten today to make our marks better

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Dont agree with your comments re Foderingham being not at fault for the goal. It was right at him. Look it up on Sky Sports Pomps. I kinda missed it on the red button live, but when you see it behind the goal Wes cocked it up. They are awkward shots to save, but he is a pro keeper so should not have done that.

When you see the highlights NDaiye was unlucky that he couldn't get a bit of spin on hs first half shot. His ghosting through the QPR defence was world class and Norwood's shot was very good and a great save. Probably should have been 2-1 or 2-2 (they missed a sitter late on) so unlucy to lose, but overall I thought the Blades were pretty crap. For me it is this inability to make those openings against teams that park the bus (we could be playing now and still not have scored) that once again will haunt us. Given the abilities of Norwich, Burnley and Watford, reckon we could be struggling to keep up unless Brewster visits Lourdes.
 
Good report. The Brewster Billy switch achieved nothing. Once again totally blanked by taller stronger defenders after taking an age to chip the ball in. So much has been down to Ndiaye individual brilliance. we need more movement and balls into feet in the box. Mcburnie laughably slow at one point when a break was on.
 
Spot on report. They were direct and getting the ball forwards quickly, we were the complete opposite. Lots of sideways and backwards rubbish leading to a ball out to one of the wing backs, Baldock can't cross a ball at all and Bogle wanted to come inside all the time. McBurnie doesn't make the run across his man either so the cross has to be pretty good (and rarely is) to find him.

RND MoM by a mile, the rest were average to poor.

QPR even brought all their best players off towards the end and we still did nothing.
 
derekacorah said:
Spot on report. They were direct and getting the ball forwards quickly, we were the complete opposite. Lots of sideways and backwards rubbish leading to a ball out to one of the wing backs, Baldock can't cross a ball at all and Bogle wanted to come inside all the time. McBurnie doesn't make the run across his man either so the cross has to be pretty good (and rarely is) to find him.

RND MoM by a mile, the rest were average to poor.

QPR even brought all their best players off towards the end and we still did nothing.
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Direct and getting the ball forward is easy when you’re the away team camped in your own half with almost everyone behind the ball and the home team pushed up trying to open you up or create gaps out wide to get behind you .

We have played direct away and benefited - Swansea - Hull - Preston .

Even the top teams in the prem can struggle when teams get everyone behind the ball - I seem to remember Man City only beating us 1-0 at their place and being frustrated at not being able to open us up .

If we had players on form - as in Berge in particular , then perhaps we would run through teams more and create more .
 
Bell4 said:
Direct and getting the ball forward is easy when you’re the away team camped in your own half with almost everyone behind the ball and the home team pushed up trying to open you up or create gaps out wide to get behind you .

We have played direct away and benefited - Swansea - Hull - Preston .

Even the top teams in the prem can struggle when teams get everyone behind the ball - I seem to remember Man City only beating us 1-0 at their place and being frustrated at not being able to open us up .

If we had players on form - as in Berge in particular , then perhaps we would run through teams more and create more .
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There were a few opportunities last night where they had pushed men on and we could have got the ball forward from the keeper a lot quicker. We did this for the first 10 mins but afterwards we opted to roll the ball out to Egan and then into midfield, then back again, then wide, then back again, then into midfield.........

You point out that we've done it previously, this backs up my point, we got to 1st in the league by playing on the front foot. We've now got to the top and gone back to being cautious in our approach.

I'm not saying we do it every time but we seem to have gone from looking to move the ball forwards to just being happy to go sideways and backwards.
 
The main problem for me is that when Berge is playing left and/or having an off day, it leaves midfield uncontested which puts more pressure on Norwood who then drops deeper. That results in a number of problems
  1. we lose the ability to press opponents trying to play out which gives them space and time. I lost count of the times they were able to switch easily and put us under pressure down the wings
  2. Norwood resorts to sitting deep and pinging long balls wide which achieve very little
  3. We lose the compact attacking shape in the final third that opens up defences
  4. Our only attacking option is hopeful balls slung into the box from angles that make defending pretty easy
When this happens we also lose the ability for Doyle to express himself around the box and so our attacking threat is near zero
 
Berge:
He needs a rest, he needs better players around him, the English game doesn't suit him, he playing on the wrong side, playing too deep etc, etc.

What he really needs is a kick up the arse and told to get stuck in for 90 minutes every game.
 
and we,re still top of the league. Last night was a game we,re on top most of it,an early goal has made our previous homewins pre break. Think qpr felt they were defending all night. Most games are so even the small margins its what it,s about. Roll on stoke,as there,s always next game. UTB
 
PaulHalfway said:
Billy is a waste of time sub really unless we get a penalty late on, offers nothing
We have been sussed out at the moment, unless we get more clinical final passes to players in the box and runners teams just sit back, defend deep, slow the game down and create frustration
It’s still early days obviously and we are in a great position with some excellent players, but need injured players back asap
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Unless we get a penalty, Billy has always seemed better when he starts which is odd really because you’d think when players are physically and mentally tired that’s when he’s prosper.
 

Well what can you say, I saw that result coming. Due to injuries our defence looks a shambles but we were never really at it last night apart from the first 10 mins. Like on Saturday our play became too slow and too many passes to the back three and keeper, that will never score us goals. Why have we gone back to fucking about with it out wide and taking an age to get a cross in? Where have the passes gone to our strikers feet and where are the midfield to support our front two when they get the ball? We seem to be back to the tactics of go up one wing mess about pass back switch to the other wing mess about but never put an early ball into the box. No wonder the front two are feeding off scraps in recent games. Nothing at all went through the middle last night.
At least on Saturday we will have to have a different team out Baldock injured again, Berge injured but on last nights effort he won't be missed. McBurnie suspended for his indiscipline in recent games, needs to be a lot smarter he does. We are desperate to get a left sided defender back fit and are really missing Anel the early season balance in the team is nowhere to be seen at the moment.

Wes 5 poor on their goal got to be saving those
Baldock 6 he'd struggle to cross his fingers
Bash 4 crap looked all over the shop.
Egan 5 left his scoring boots in Ireland had two half decent chances one shot wide the other 50p head on for us
RND 7 MOTM
Bogle 6 did well considering he isn't fully fit and playing out of position
Berge 4 crap hardly in the game
Norwood 6 a couple of decent shots and crosses but also wasteful pings out to marked men out wide
Doyle 6 loses a point for losing his man to gift them a goal you can't stand there and watch em play a one two at this level
Ndiaye 6 a bit greedy could have played a unmarked Berge in when he rolled it past the post.
McBurnie 5 needs to cut out the silly bookings and moaning at refs
Sharp 5 poor but has had a long lay off
Brewster 5 back to the kid that looks lost
Khadra 6 not everything came off for him but at least he tried to make something happen with early balls into the box, a shame none of our forwards gambled on them
 
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