Points begging for away games

[corkysbeard]

Is getting as bad as begging for shirts now.

 

[Wright1889]

Is getting as bad as begging for shirts now.

Agreed.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Tbh it's win win for both sides. I usually can get tickets on the second day but only do about 5-6 away games a season. I don't mind someone else topping my points up on the odd occasion.

 

[Westran]

I think begging for points is only necessary because so many people give their points away, making it a self defeating system. Those with enough points get points even when they don't attend because the ticket sale is registered on their account. They're the ones who anger should be directed at, not those who can only get to an away game if they're lucky enough to know someone with enough points.

 

[Cheesebored]

Tbh it's win win for both sides. I usually can get tickets on the second day but only do about 5-6 away games a season. I don't mind someone else topping my points up on the odd occasion.

I really don't get the bitchiness from some people. Plenty of supporters with enough points to buy on the first day do so and pass on their tickets to friends or family members. There's no big outcry over that. Man wants to go to football but is prevented due to system. Man asks for help. People froth. Why? Sorry, could also be woman asks for help!

 

[SwissBlade]

Tbh it's win win for both sides. I usually can get tickets on the second day but only do about 5-6 away games a season. I don't mind someone else topping my points up on the odd occasion.

Unless the beggar gets himself kicked out and banned in someone else’s name

 

[Jinxy1966]

 

[Cheesebored]

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Deal.

 

[Whiston Blade]

I don’t have a problem with people using someone else customer number to get a ticket, it’s a win-win for both involved. So what happens if someone gave me their customer number, do I add them to my account as friends and family and purchase the ticket that way or do they buy it then sell it to me?

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Tbh it's win win for both sides. I usually can get tickets on the second day but only do about 5-6 away games a season. I don't mind someone else topping my points up on the odd occasion.

It is "win-win" for the two sides you refer to but there's also a third side.
The person that misses out due to not having enough loyalty points. When, in reality, they might have had enough points had people not queue jumped.

 

[Westran]

It is "win-win" for the two sides you refer to but there's also a third side.
The person that misses out due to not having enough loyalty points. When, in reality, they might have had enough points had people not queue jumped.

And the fourth side, where some might have had enough points if those who are giving their customer number up weren't hoarding points they're not actually entitled to

 

[Mike325]

If someone can’t go with enough points that’s there call if they offer there account to someone else.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

If someone can’t go with enough points that’s there call if they offer there account to someone else.

Well, yes. Obviously. But it's selfish.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

I'll also add it dosent help that ticket allocations are piss poor these days. Bet average is around 2k? Getting around 3k - 4k would be better for fans.

 

[Mike325]

Well, yes. Obviously. But it's selfish.

That’s a matter of opinion pal if your lad wanted to go or pal whatever you’d do it in a heartbeat anyone would.

 

[Cheesebored]

It is "win-win" for the two sides you refer to but there's also a third side.
The person that misses out due to not having enough loyalty points. When, in reality, they might have had enough points had people not queue jumped.

I wouldn't disagree but in effect that's always been the case. I'm not advocating photo I.D on tickets but until that point the system will always be flawed.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

I wouldn't disagree but in effect that's always been the case. I'm not advocating photo I.D on tickets but until that point the system will always be flawed.

Agreed, it does need looking at and personally I'm not even needing it too.

I'm 30 now so when it started in around 2006? I've managed to get around 57k points but for those younger fans it's impossible so I do have some sympathy.

 

[Nesh Blade]

That’s a matter of opinion pal if your lad wanted to go or pal whatever you’d do it in a heartbeat anyone would.

Fair enough but I’m someone who’s family moved to Sheffield and we don’t have an extended family or friends to borrow off unless I asked on here. Started going away to a few games last season and doing a few more this year but it does shut out newer fans if people keep playing the system.

However the ballot has been great, we’re going to Luton on Friday courtesy of the 10% the club hold back.

 

[Mike325]

Fair enough but I’m someone who’s family moved to Sheffield and we don’t have an extended family or friends to borrow off unless I asked on here. Started going away to a few games last season and doing a few more this year but it does shut out newer fans if people keep playing the system.

However the ballot has been great, we’re going to Luton on Friday courtesy of the 10% the club hold back.

Ok pal chill.

Your going to Luton congratulations you’ve got tickets your lucky pal

 

[Westran]

That’s a matter of opinion pal if your lad wanted to go or pal whatever you’d do it in a heartbeat anyone would.

Isn't the person attending the match supposed to be the person whose name is on the ticket though? If so it isn't a natter of opinion, its abusing the system for your own benefit

 

[CaptainMorgans]

That’s a matter of opinion pal if your lad wanted to go or pal whatever you’d do it in a heartbeat anyone would.

I probably would do it. But it would be a selfish act.

I wouldn't disagree but in effect that's always been the case. I'm not advocating photo I.D on tickets but until that point the system will always be flawed.

Agree. The system's flawed. And it worsens year on year because it's wide open for exploitation and those with the most points keep accumulating them without attending.

 

[Mike325]

Is getting as bad as begging for shirts now.People want to go p

Isn't the person attending the match supposed to be the person whose name is on the ticket though? If so it isn't a natter of opinion, its abusing the system for your own benefit

Hold on helmet don’t wet your knickers I don’t do it I can’t do away games because of time and family/children but if someone else wants to give there tickets to someone else who is anyone to comment

 

[Cheesebored]

Agreed, it does need looking at and personally I'm not even needing it too.

I'm 30 now so when it started in around 2006? I've managed to get around 57k points but for those younger fans it's impossible so I do have some sympathy.

Same, I've enough for first day of sale. My issue has always been trying to sit with my 2 lads. The eldest travels with his mates now he's old enough but when they were younger it was impossible to get to games together as we had to wait until the youngest's threshold was met. It often irked me when travelling without them to see kids apparently younger than my own sat with their parents at the game. The current loyalty system doesn't reward current loyalty it rewards past loyalty. Someone with maximum loyalty points could buy a ticket for every away game and never attend a single match but instead sell on their ticket. They will remain at the top of the loyalty tree so to speak. I appreciate it suits many and that there are no easy answers.

 

[Mike325]

I probably would do it. But it would be a selfish act.



Agree. The system's flawed. And it worsens year on year because it's wide open for exploitation and those with the most points keep accumulatingeone them without attending.

It’s someone’s choice pal if you spent your whole life with that attitude in my opinion and with respect you wouldn’t get anywhere.

 

[Redstripe]

Agreed, it does need looking at and personally I'm not even needing it too.

I'm 30 now so when it started in around 2006? I've managed to get around 57k points but for those younger fans it's impossible so I do have some sympathy.

For me it should be a rolling points total over say 5 seasons. Any points accumulated over 5 years ago should be void.
I went home and away for years so don’t have too many problems getting tickets for myself, but if I was to go away now, it would be with my lad who has had a season ticket for 6 years but only a handful of away matches.

 

[Fatlad666]

Personal I would scrap the points system all together. Never had a issue in the 80s 90s or early noughties watching the blade's away. Whether it was Aldershot away or Colchester. We got our allocation they went on sale once gone that was it, and I have to say the atmosphere before during and after the game was a lot better.

 

[JJBlade]

Same, I've enough for first day of sale. My issue has always been trying to sit with my 2 lads. The eldest travels with his mates now he's old enough but when they were younger it was impossible to get to games together as we had to wait until the youngest's threshold was met. It often irked me when travelling without them to see kids apparently younger than my own sat with their parents at the game. The current loyalty system doesn't reward current loyalty it rewards past loyalty. Someone with maximum loyalty points could buy a ticket for every away game and never attend a single match but instead sell on their ticket. They will remain at the top of the loyalty tree so to speak. I appreciate it suits many and that there are no easy answers.

And assuming 2,500 - 3,000 is the maximum we can take to most away games

How does somebody in 3,001st place onwards get more loyalty points

 

[CaptainMorgans]

It’s someone’s choice pal if you spent your whole life with that attitude in my opinion and with respect you wouldn’t get anywhere.

I know it's someone's choice. That doesn't make it not selfish.
I could choose to push in front of you at the bar, wouldn't make it a reasonable act...

 

[Cheesebored]

It’s someone’s choice pal if you spent your whole life with that attitude in my opinion and with respect you wouldn’t get anywhere.

I think you're blurring the lines between helping someone out that's genuinely asking for a one off game and doing it every week for your own accumulation of points.( not you personally).

 

[Westran]

Hold on helmet don’t wet your knickers I don’t do it I can’t do away games because of time and family/children but if someone else wants to give there tickets to someone else who is anyone to comment

No need to be a dick about it pal, I never accused you of doing anything.